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Mist1313
02-12-2007, 04:01 PM
Just wanted to post a few tips on how to lvl fast and burn those mobs down fast.

Requirements... 1 shaman with good Vit, Wis, Int. 1 good pig sticker. Good timing. Alot of food.

At 21 I can currently currently burn down 3 3dot mobs of even con or slightly better within a 2 min period very easily.

Step 1 - Send in the pet.

Step 2 - cast dot 1 while moving into melee range. Hit the melee button and get a free hit.

Step 3 - cast second dot and wait till the next melee hit comes. Not specials... just regular hits.

Step 4 - cast SS and wait for melee hits.

Step 5 - Repeat step 4 untill mob is dead. Remember to always allow that free melee hit inbetween casts.

Combat should last 25-30 secs sometimes less. After combat eat some food and your back up in 5 secs or so. The bird actually does well in this situation and acts as a good dot. You should not have to heal yourself during this combat because the mob is dead ultra fast.

Mist

Shendor
02-12-2007, 06:04 PM
Just wanted to post a few tips on how to lvl fast and burn those mobs down fast.

Requirements... 1 shaman with good Vit, Wis, Int. 1 good pig sticker. Good timing. Alot of food.

At 21 I can currently currently burn down 3 3dot mobs of even con or slightly better within a 2 min period very easily.

Step 1 - Send in the pet.

Step 2 - cast dot 1 while moving into melee range. Hit the melee button and get a free hit.

Step 3 - cast second dot and wait till the next melee hit comes. Not specials... just regular hits.

Step 4 - cast SS and wait for melee hits.

Step 5 - Repeat step 4 untill mob is dead. Remember to always allow that free melee hit inbetween casts.

Combat should last 25-30 secs sometimes less. After combat eat some food and your back up in 5 secs or so. The bird actually does well in this situation and acts as a good dot. You should not have to heal yourself during this combat because the mob is dead ultra fast.

Mist


Only being level 11, I've been having fun taking mobs out too. I was wondering if it was the same at higher levels. Now I know :D

On a side note, do you find "Umbra Burst" or any other finishing moves activating and how often?

sephira
02-13-2007, 02:56 AM
Combat should last 25-30 secs sometimes less. After combat eat some food and your back up in 5 secs or so. The bird actually does well in this situation and acts as a good dot. You should not have to heal yourself during this combat because the mob is dead ultra fast.

Mist

What armour and what weapon stats you have ? No prewarding ? On what mobs ? No slow down ? No kiting with the bird ?

I am sorry, i d like to see a fraps of this, because i tend to doubt it. A 3dot even con will hit you and you will have interrupts. Depending on gear more or less interrupts. And if you catch an add you run or you die. But i have to admit that it might be true with the bird. I dont have a bird and its not that easy to kill a even con 3dot.

Sailormoontw
02-13-2007, 03:09 AM
Just wanted to post a few tips on how to lvl fast and burn those mobs down fast.
At 21 I can currently currently burn down 3 3dot mobs of even con or slightly better within a 2 min period very easily.

Well, from the statement I am a bit afraid shamans are overpowered. To tell the truth, even without the path selection beginning in lv15, shaman is well balanced except some spells for example +20% spell haste seem too good, and right after shamans get to lv15, I would say shamans are 20%-50% more powerful than before. That is, if shamans' common spells line are good enough, the additional non-situational add-ons really make shamans better than other classes. Maybe you'd say monk gets to choose 1 from 3 too, but monks we know are a bit inferior to other light fighers without the style spells.

Dradiin
02-13-2007, 08:26 AM
Just wanted to post a few tips on how to lvl fast and burn those mobs down fast.

Requirements... 1 shaman with good Vit, Wis, Int. 1 good pig sticker. Good timing. Alot of food.

At 21 I can currently currently burn down 3 3dot mobs of even con or slightly better within a 2 min period very easily.

Step 1 - Send in the pet.

Step 2 - cast dot 1 while moving into melee range. Hit the melee button and get a free hit.

Step 3 - cast second dot and wait till the next melee hit comes. Not specials... just regular hits.

Step 4 - cast SS and wait for melee hits.

Step 5 - Repeat step 4 untill mob is dead. Remember to always allow that free melee hit inbetween casts.

Combat should last 25-30 secs sometimes less. After combat eat some food and your back up in 5 secs or so. The bird actually does well in this situation and acts as a good dot. You should not have to heal yourself during this combat because the mob is dead ultra fast.

Mist

Your a liar.

Xtinct
02-13-2007, 01:37 PM
Well, from the statement I am a bit afraid shamans are overpowered. To tell the truth, even without the path selection beginning in lv15, shaman is well balanced except some spells for example +20% spell haste seem too good, and right after shamans get to lv15, I would say shamans are 20%-50% more powerful than before. That is, if shamans' common spells line are good enough, the additional non-situational add-ons really make shamans better than other classes. Maybe you'd say monk gets to choose 1 from 3 too, but monks we know are a bit inferior to other light fighers without the style spells.


Don't listen to these retards. Let them level up a bit before they go and tell people how to "level fast". I am currently 32. Our root sucks with maxed skill -- its always resisted at these levels. SS hahahah give me a break 1 in 4 hit. You say you don't use slow? lol gg nub yer dead in seconds. You don't heal? gonna be interesting when the mob takes 1/4 your hp every swing.

After 30, just about every mob you fight stuns. Soloing becomes much harder and MUCH longer. Lets not forget the healing mobs which can be like fighting 4 mobs at once anyway.

Trust me shamans are far from overpowered. We have so many skills that don't work or have WAY too high of a resist factor even with maxed skill.

People like the OP are the morons that get classes merfed based on getting everyone excited over something that just doesn't happen later on. Level up nub, then come back here later on and tell us you can do the same thing.

Grouping is by far the best exp now, and it will be for the rest of the game. Soloing takes to long to be effective regardless of how you do it.

Slyde_Rule
02-13-2007, 04:57 PM
At level 15 I am able to solo 3-dot level 17 mobs and 2-dot level 18. This may seem like I'm overpowered, but it hasn't always been this easy, and from what I've read it gets tougher later. I seem to be in a "sweet spot" right now.

In wolf form, I pull with Lethargy, as the mob is approaching I apply the Hoarfrost and Fleshrot dots, then start melee with Hammer of Krigus followed by Strike of Skamadiz. I then throw in a mix of Spirit Strike, and the two melee attacks I got as a Rakuur. I heal myself and re-apply dots, Hammer, and Skamadiz as needed.

The 3-dot 17s go down fairly easy. I have to heal myself once, twice at most, and end up with over 50% energy.

The 2-dot 18s are harder. I have to heal myself several times and end up with very little energy.

The mobs I was soloing were around Ulla's Tower near Misthaven Crossing. The Cockatrices that stun are a little tougher, but I manage them OK too...

Haven't used my pet yet - I like having the +60% run speed wolf form gives me in case I need to bail...

Dradiin
02-13-2007, 06:01 PM
I was under a false impression of the OP here, and didnt really see how much of a lying bastage he is. Sorry Xtinct what i said was the truth about what i can do as a bear shaman.

Mist1313
02-13-2007, 09:14 PM
Yep... I lied im really not doing that kinda damage. Lets do some math... With my int at around 125 my ss nuke is around 330-340. My polearm hits for 100 plus. Both dots stacked and the bird is around 170 dps in a 2 second tick. so lets just say I do around 300dps a sec. So in a 20 sec period with no crits I do around 6000 damage. Rough estimate... That pretty much tears an even 3 dot down fast. I never said I dont take damage... Its just not enough to be worth healing when I can eat some food after combat and regen both energy and health. It a simple concept... If you kill the mob fast you take way less damage.

I see a ton of shaman playing healer tank with the mobs. Its thier style. Im a nuker shaman.

I don't know how that 32 "asshat' shaman is doing things but im a caster shaman. My int, vit and wis are well into the 100's and my gear reflects my playing style. Spend your attribute points however you wish... Int is paying off for me.

Mist

Xtinct
02-13-2007, 09:43 PM
Yep... I lied im really not doing that kinda damage. Lets do some math... With my int at around 125 my ss nuke is around 330-340. My polearm hits for 100 plus. Both dots stacked and the bird is around 170 dps in a 2 second tick. so lets just say I do around 300dps a sec. So in a 20 sec period with no crits I do around 6000 damage. Rough estimate... That pretty much tears an even 3 dot down fast. I never said I dont take damage... Its just not enough to be worth healing when I can eat some food after combat and regen both energy and health. It a simple concept... If you kill the mob fast you take way less damage.

I see a ton of shaman playing healer tank with the mobs. Its thier style. Im a nuker shaman.

I don't know how that 32 "asshat' shaman is doing things but im a caster shaman. My int, vit and wis are well into the 100's and my gear reflects my playing style. Spend your attribute points however you wish... Int is paying off for me.

Mist

lol ... int paying off? Ask any int caster, int is broken at the moment. You obviously hae no clue what you are even talking about. you are on here stirring up the pot regarding Shaman, I've seen some of your other bs posts.

Fact of the matter is not one... NOT ONE.. phoenix shaman I know (and thats plenty) like their class post 25. Their nukes don't do jack, they resisted on everhting with max skills. 99.99% of them are begging for the change patron quest, so don't come on here and boast about how great shaman are. They are broken as far as resists go, and if you weren't some noob, you'd know that.

You're an idiot, plain and simple trying to show Shaman are more powerful than they are. yes, you goofs are the reason classes get nerfed because boasting about things that don't happen later on tend to get all these frenzied noobs into a "nerf this, nerf that" scenario.

Level up and come back noob.

Faite
02-13-2007, 09:44 PM
lol ... int paying off? Ask any int caster, int is broken at the moment. You obviously hae no clue what you are even talking about. you are on here stirring up the pot regarding Shaman, I've seen some of your other bs posts.

Fact of the matter is not one... NOT ONE.. phoenix shaman I know (and thats plenty) like their class post 25. Their nukes don't do jack, they resisted on everhting with max skills. 99.99% of them are begging for the change patron quest, so don't come on here and boast about how great shaman are. They are broken as far as resists go, and if you weren't some noob, you'd know that.

You're an idiot, plain and simple trying to show Shaman are more powerful than they are. yes, you goofs are the reason classes get nerfed because boasting about things that don't happen later on tend to get all these frenzied noobs into a "nerf this, nerf that" scenario.

Level up and come back noob.

Mist already posted something another time about getting shamans nerfed, heh, this is probably just his/her back door try :)

Garjala
02-14-2007, 01:15 AM
Just wanted to post a few tips on how to lvl fast and burn those mobs down fast.

Requirements... 1 shaman with good Vit, Wis, Int. 1 good pig sticker. Good timing. Alot of food.

At 21 I can currently currently burn down 3 3dot mobs of even con or slightly better within a 2 min period very easily.

Step 1 - Send in the pet.

Step 2 - cast dot 1 while moving into melee range. Hit the melee button and get a free hit.

Step 3 - cast second dot and wait till the next melee hit comes. Not specials... just regular hits.

Step 4 - cast SS and wait for melee hits.

Step 5 - Repeat step 4 untill mob is dead. Remember to always allow that free melee hit inbetween casts.

Combat should last 25-30 secs sometimes less. After combat eat some food and your back up in 5 secs or so. The bird actually does well in this situation and acts as a good dot. You should not have to heal yourself during this combat because the mob is dead ultra fast.

Mist
Yeah, sure... based on my own experiences one 3 dot rapes the bird, so I do not think that you can take 3 of them. If you can, Sigil should really check if those mobs are worth 3 dots or not.

Dradiin
02-14-2007, 08:15 AM
ROFL

I thought the OP was full of BS but i was not gonna rain on that parade.

I can seriously do what i posted above as a bear shaman. Sorry for not seeing the OP for what he is.

I am gonna go edit my posted and erase what i said.

Vidrak
02-14-2007, 02:56 PM
Wow, what a great thread. Can we do something besides flame eachother all day. I love how people like Xtinct here think they are so awesome 'cause they are 30. And since you are higher lvl, everyone else is a noob. Way to be an elitist asshole man, *claps* You are truely mature and a great community member. :rolleyes:

I don't really know how well shamans solo, but I highly doubt they can take 3 3-dot yellows at any level at one time. And for sure, that bird isn't going to be tanking anything. And with stuns, you can forget about it.

I have seen some shamans solo one 3-dot, what half the classes in the game can do that. So you are definitely not anything special, heh.

They just need to increase mob difficulty (at least sub 25, from what I have seen so far). Most of these mobs are a joke to kill, at best.

Mist1313
02-14-2007, 03:35 PM
lol ... int paying off? Ask any int caster, int is broken at the moment. You obviously hae no clue what you are even talking about. you are on here stirring up the pot regarding Shaman, I've seen some of your other bs posts.

Fact of the matter is not one... NOT ONE.. phoenix shaman I know (and thats plenty) like their class post 25. Their nukes don't do jack, they resisted on everhting with max skills. 99.99% of them are begging for the change patron quest, so don't come on here and boast about how great shaman are. They are broken as far as resists go, and if you weren't some noob, you'd know that.

You're an idiot, plain and simple trying to show Shaman are more powerful than they are. yes, you goofs are the reason classes get nerfed because boasting about things that don't happen later on tend to get all these frenzied noobs into a "nerf this, nerf that" scenario.

Level up and come back noob.

Just because YOU cannot kill lvl 25 mobs and up sounds like YOU need some help playing the class. Sounds to me like if you don't have an I WIN button you cry and insult like a little baby. Oh please sigil let me change from the bird to the bear... its just to hard to play the bird now. Whine, cry and insult. What a looser. Get a life. And please... Learn to play the class.

Just for the heck of it... I went out and tryed to take out a 25-26 mob. Not an issue and im lvl 21 lol. Do I need to put fraps movies up to SHOW you how to kill mobs? Hold your hand? Push the little buttons for you?

If you have not noticed yet. This is a group orientated game as my other thread indicated. Cannot solo? Group and stop whining, crying etc.

And if you really cannot take on a lvl 25 mob at lvl 25. Please return to wow with the other children.

Mist

Friedrich
02-14-2007, 04:05 PM
look at it this way, who would make a post like this without aiming to get nerfed? This is obviously a poor attempt.

Mist1313
02-14-2007, 04:28 PM
look at it this way, who would make a post like this without aiming to get nerfed? This is obviously a poor attempt.

Actually it would take someone that is fairly dumb to think that sigil does not know how these classes are being used. My post was to help shaman at around my lvl do so faster.

Please look over my math and point out any gross exageration you may see there. There is none. There is actually an under cut because I did not throw crits in there and I get a few of those in every combat. I also get UB alot because of the number of nukes I throw.

Its so easy to say hes full of it and trying to get us nerfed. Back your talk up.

Mist

Mist1313
02-14-2007, 04:46 PM
look at it this way, who would make a post like this without aiming to get nerfed? This is obviously a poor attempt.

Yeah, sure... based on my own experiences one 3 dot rapes the bird, so I do not think that you can take 3 of them. If you can, Sigil should really check if those mobs are worth 3 dots or not.

Perhaps reading is not something you are strong at. If you read and actually try and understand what I am saying its 3 3 dot mobs in 2 minutes. Not 3 at once lol. The bird only takes a hit or 2 per combat.

In the future I would suggest the following... Read the post. Understand the post. Then reply.

Mist1313
02-14-2007, 05:01 PM
Some of you folks are just too funny. If my post was BS I think sigil would know that. If my post was true I think sigil would know that too. Common sense you would think.

Psssst... don't tell anyone. I can solo 3dot mobs. Sigil does not know this. we need to keep it secret ok? If they don't find out we won't get nerfed. ROFLMAO.

Are some of you that DUMB?

Mist

Warbreed
02-15-2007, 02:07 AM
hell i want to know how he got his int that high wearing medium armor..I just dont see that many medium armor drops with int boost. So either your wearing caster gear and dropping your ac a whole lot or i dunno

Mist1313
02-15-2007, 03:05 AM
hell i want to know how he got his int that high wearing medium armor..I just dont see that many medium armor drops with int boost. So either your wearing caster gear and dropping your ac a whole lot or i dunno

Yep I have on a mix of stuff... some light some medium.

Xtinct posted that Int for casters is broken. Hmmm... when I put on a piece of int gear and tool over my SS spell the damage that the spell says it does goes up and my damage reflects it? Sounds to me like its working as intended. There is a big post on the necro site parsing Int and spell damage and you can see the diff.

With the necro int parsing and my own experiances I am beginning to really doubt Xtinct's post about resists 25 plus. And for that matter anything he has posted. I am guessing that he picked the wrong diety and compounded the issue by spending his attrib points the wrong way. He borked his toon and now wants a reset. Too funny.

I could really care less if folks believe me or not. I posted an alternate way of doing it that works for me. You want to play healer tank with the mobs... thats your choice lol.

My way is fast.

Mist