gamespot review

[z4oslo]

7.5/10

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/vanguard/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=tabs

Its a fair review imho, though i do not understand why gamespot (and most others) give graphic and sound/music 7/8 out of 10.

Which games has better graphics in the mmo world? And the music in Vanguard is excellent.

Sigil need to get those nast bugs out of the game tho. the most annoying is the memory leak crash to desktop bug. 9 out of 10 times you die during the crash, and when you get back in, there is no tombtone, o directions to it.

Tired of seeing a red bar :yell:

[sypher_ffs]

I would say that review hits the nail on the head, very accurate in what he has said.

[Starfall]

Agreed: it's a good, fair review. Overall I'd give VG a higher score than the reviewer did, but that's just because I rate its plus points quite high on my list and I have a new machine, so performance isn't an issue.

Also, importantly, the bugs are clearly fixable. I don't see a problem with the fundamental structure of the game, so we just have to hope it can survive financially until the bugs get stomped and it becomes a truly great game.

[shadowspawn]

7.5/10

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/vanguard/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=tabs

Its a fair review imho, though i do not understand why gamespot (and most others) give graphic and sound/music 7/8 out of 10.

Which games has better graphics in the mmo world? And the music in Vanguard is excellent.

Sigil need to get those nast bugs out of the game tho. the most annoying is the memory leak crash to desktop bug. 9 out of 10 times you die during the crash, and when you get back in, there is no tombtone, o directions to it.

Tired of seeing a red bar :yell:


Very fair assessment of the game in it's state right now. Plenty o' bugs to keep it from garnering a higher score.

Also keep in mind the score of 7 regarding the graphics is two fold. Firstly, it is a subjective rating and secondly you need a NASA type computer to see the graphics in all their glory! So yeah, a score of 7 is fair.

[Nordh]

Also keep in mind the score of 7 regarding the graphics is two fold. Firstly, it is a subjective rating and secondly you need a NASA type computer to see the graphics in all their glory! So yeah, a score of 7 is fair.

I guess, but I still consider that rating to be more like, how advanced is it with gfx on max and a monster machine. What the possibilities are. Look at the WoW review, they gave that 8 for graphics... yeah. Right.

Edit: Hell they even gave it a 9! I was looking at the TBC rating...

[shadowspawn]

7.5/10

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/vanguard/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=tabs

Its a fair review imho, though i do not understand why gamespot (and most others) give graphic and sound/music 7/8 out of 10.

Which games has better graphics in the mmo world? And the music in Vanguard is excellent.

Sigil need to get those nast bugs out of the game tho. the most annoying is the memory leak crash to desktop bug. 9 out of 10 times you die during the crash, and when you get back in, there is no tombtone, o directions to it.

Tired of seeing a red bar :yell:

I guess, but I still consider that rating to be more like, how advanced is it with gfx on max and a monster machine. What the possibilities are. Look at the WoW review, they gave that 8 for graphics... yeah. Right.

Edit: Hell they even gave it a 9! I was looking at the TBC rating...


eeeeeekk!:eek:

An 8 for WoW graphics! Must of taken a batch of 'shrooms before reviewing that seizure inducing prismatic splash of vibrant pastel colors. But hey, that's just me.

Seriously, was it the same reviewer for both?

[rook818]

Yep, they gave the WoW graphics an 8 and gave VG a 7.

I have said it before and I will say it again, game reviewers are terribly biased and out of touch with reality.

I'm actually begining to wonder if they are critics or reflections in the mirror of hype.

[ShadeVice]

I guess, but I still consider that rating to be more like, how advanced is it with gfx on max and a monster machine. What the possibilities are. Look at the WoW review, they gave that 8 for graphics... yeah. Right.

Edit: Hell they even gave it a 9! I was looking at the TBC rating...

They dont just give the rating for the visuals of the graphics, they also factor in how stable they are. Or how they can be run with decent settings for the average PC.

Seemed like a fair review to me. Although one thing I disagree with is he kind of put a negative spin on "forced" grouping. After all a MMORPG is about players playing together and VG makes that more of a constant reality. Should be viewed as a positive not a negative.

[Aeronis]

That reviewer didn't give the game an entirely fair shake.
How can you only spend 2 pages reviewing an expansive game like Vanguard when most other MMORPGs on gamespot get 4-6 pages?

The graphics deserved an 8.
The gameplay deserved an 8.
The sound being a 7 was justified.
The Value should have been a 9, given how much there is already to od how what the long term value of Vanguard will be relative to other MMORPGs.

Most gamers get it right reviewing the game at or over an 8.0.

[Timi]

7.5/10

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/vanguard/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=tabs

Its a fair review imho, though i do not understand why gamespot (and most others) give graphic and sound/music 7/8 out of 10.

Which games has better graphics in the mmo world? And the music in Vanguard is excellent.

Sigil need to get those nast bugs out of the game tho. the most annoying is the memory leak crash to desktop bug. 9 out of 10 times you die during the crash, and when you get back in, there is no tombtone, o directions to it.

Tired of seeing a red bar :yell:

It's not an outstanding score, but a very good review. The review pointed out it's foibles, but didn't bash the game and actually talked it up at the end.

Reason for the low score in graphics (my assumption) are the graphical glitches and to be honest, some places look really great, while others look like they still need to be worked on.

The sound, is 50/50 as well. While the wood elf and khal territories (as stated in the review) are awe inspiring, the Goblin and Orc starting area with cheap guitar riffs are less than inspired. Lets also not forget the horrible voice acting. Sorry, but a spade is a spade here. B-movie acting has some better voice overs then the ones NPC's have in game.

[Xonx]

I have said it before and I will say it again, game reviewers are terribly biased and out of touch with reality.

I don't think they're out of touch at all. There are reasons why 8 million people play that other game. When they give graphics a 9, they're quantifying one aspect of what those 8 million people love about WoW.
Graphics isn't all about polygons, it's mostly about art and many people like they art direction of WoW. Granted, this sort of thing is very subjective by nature, so it's hard to review. I, for one, think WoW did a very impressive job using a very small number of polygons.

[Starfall]

Yep, they gave the WoW graphics an 8 and gave VG a 7.
Whilst there's no doubt that Vanguard's graphics are great looking on a new machine, there's more to good graphics than that: there's appearence on lesser machines, frame rates, animation, art quality and other more subtle polish effects, such as good visual cueing.

So, let's compare:
Peak graphics quality on high end machine: VG wins clearly
Quality on older machines (e.g. Nvidia 6xxx series): A close one, but on balance I think WOW wins, because you have to throttle back the VG settings so much.
Frame rates on the same machine: WOW wins clearly
Animation: WOW wins clearly
Art quality: Very subjective this one: I like both art styles, but I marginally prefer VG, so I'll give it a narrow win.
General polish: WOW wins

So, WOW wins on 4/6 categories, although they aren't all equally important. In other words, it's not unreasonable to mark WOW higher if you look at graphics as a whole.

edit: it's worth noting that most of the categories that WOW is ahead in are fixable: polish and better animations can easily come in time, and good graphics cards will get cheaper, so the relative scores may not be the same in a year's time.

edit2: it would be interesting to see a more detailed VG vs WOW comparison along the lines of this Gamespy review (http://uk.pc.gamespy.com/articles/572/572447p1.html).