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uberowo
03-02-2007, 07:19 PM
I usually play a bard (lvl 23). I enjoy him, but I do feel he lacks a bit in the dps department. I've been thinking about rolling a defensive fighter, as I usually team with a shaman and they would seem like a good fit, likely better then my bard..

While I realize people dont generally recommend defensive fighters for dps and pvp survivability, after getting killed by a warrior in literally 1,3 seconds today, I am no longer convinced they are in such a bad place. (Please dont start about my lack of pvp skills for dying to a warrior, I do just fine.)

The DK seems like the obvious choice. Snare, shadowstep and the insta cast "harmtouch" thingy. Add in a few lifetaps and warrior-like dps they should be good yes?

The warrior seems like a sitting duck in pvp with no way of closing the gap to his ranged opponents. With his sick armor and hitpoint pool though, who besides healers can actually kite him successfully? Bards sure as hell cant..

The Paladin.. Has anyone even tried them in pvp? I think I've seen two total on my server.. (EU Frengrot.) They apparently have a ghetto-snare for closing the gap, and some crappy nukes.. (Do they ever get a ranged attack besides throwing hammers with 20 range?) Anyone know how his ranged dps compares to a warrior spamming his longbow attacks? The virtues seem like powerful pvp tools, how often can you use these on higher levels?

The main concern for melees obviously is the ridiculously overpowered crowd control spells in this game (root, mez, snares etc). And while I am 100% sure cc in pvp will be brutally beaten into a bloody pulp by the nerf bat in a not to distant patch, the lack of tools to avoid kiting is still the main concern for all these classes it seems.. I'd like input on how this works from the perspective of someone who's actually playing the class, preferably above lvl 20.. :)

I would greatly appreciate input on this. How do these classes compare in PVP? Specifically DPS wise. Is the Paladin DPS really that much lower then the other two? (Mind you, I dont care about PVE, I'm pretty sure all these classes will be fine for my pve needs.)

hawnz
03-02-2007, 07:30 PM
I usually play a bard (lvl 23). I enjoy him, but I do feel he lacks a bit in the dps department. I've been thinking about rolling a defensive fighter, as I usually team with a shaman and they would seem like a good fit, likely better then my bard..

While I realize people dont generally recommend defensive fighters for dps and pvp survivability, after getting killed by a warrior in literally 1,3 seconds today, I am no longer convinced they are in such a bad place. (Please dont start about my lack of pvp skills for dying to a warrior, I do just fine.)

The DK seems like the obvious choice. Snare, shadowstep and the insta cast "harmtouch" thingy. Add in a few lifetaps and warrior-like dps they should be good yes?

The warrior seems like a sitting duck in pvp with no way of closing the gap to his ranged opponents. With his sick armor and hitpoint pool though, who besides healers can actually kite him successfully? Bards sure as hell cant..

The Paladin.. Has anyone even tried them in pvp? I think I've seen two total on my server.. (EU Frengrot.) They apparently have a ghetto-snare for closing the gap, and some crappy nukes.. (Do they ever get a ranged attack besides throwing hammers with 20 range?) Anyone know how his ranged dps compares to a warrior spamming his longbow attacks? The virtues seem like powerful pvp tools, how often can you use these on higher levels?

The main concern for melees obviously is the ridiculously overpowered crowd control spells in this game (root, mez, snares etc). And while I am 100% sure cc in pvp will be brutally beaten into a bloody pulp by the nerf bat in a not to distant patch, the lack of tools to avoid kiting is still the main concern for all these classes it seems.. I'd like input on how this works from the perspective of someone who's actually playing the class, preferably above lvl 20.. :)

I would greatly appreciate input on this. How do these classes compare in PVP? Specifically DPS wise. Is the Paladin DPS really that much lower then the other two? (Mind you, I dont care about PVE, I'm pretty sure all these classes will be fine for my pve needs.)

the shadowstep makes DKs quite fun, as kiting us is a lot harder to do when we can insta-teleport and smash you over the head.

Tarikko
03-02-2007, 07:51 PM
Paladins are getting love right now, i'd wait to see what happens.

yarilo
03-02-2007, 11:54 PM
Depends on your playstyle. DK is best considering all factors. Paladin is best of all 3 in groups because of heals and rescues. Warrior is probably the worst overall both group and solo. The only one that can do ok solo is DK. Paladin, while hard to kill after level 14 or so, can't kill anything either due to low DPS.

elevenbravo
03-03-2007, 10:25 AM
Not warrior. Unless you like pain and suffering dont role a warrior on a pvp server.

Freakin dk has some kinda of 5 minutes strength/con drain that he can put on me, some snare, a whole list of crap while all I can do is shoot him with my bow PEW PEW.

Seriously, 5 min strength drain!?

hawnz
03-03-2007, 12:53 PM
not to mention our (DKs) 80 endurance drain. that right there can rape other melees that depend on end