LvL 50 Gorgolog armor quests please help.

[Purplenv]

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/2112/hengerianqv3.th.jpg (http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hengerianqv3.jpg)

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Very cool.

Image of the full heroic Flare Totem set now.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/purplenv/FlareTotem-June07.jpg

Not nearly as exciting as the image you posted.

(Woops, how did i get 2 Underlays in there... arghhh missed the cap. Sorry)

[mauroxx]

... the core of ezigoth is from hengerian...

But the BP who are from?

[Seven_PRX]

So the breastplate and all components are dropping? if so, which mob dropped the breastplate?

[Ellestil]

Can anyone confirm if the missing items needed (like Nihilistic, BP, etc) for Icth defensive armor are in game now?

[Purplenv]

So the breastplate and all components are dropping? if so, which mob dropped the breastplate?


How long does it take people to figure out that you get the item links, and subsequent stat pics from the assembly tab, and do not need to have a single piece complete. (I do have the 3 in the top row however.)

[Purplenv]

1351136
are in

[Seven_PRX]

How long does it take people to figure out that you get the item links, and subsequent stat pics from the assembly tab, and do not need to have a single piece complete. (I do have the 3 in the top row however.)

I know that - but the guy could have finished the set if all components were in-game, which could have been possible, so my question was legit.

[Purplenv]

I know that - but the guy could have finished the set if all components were in-game, which could have been possible, so my question was legit.

Yah sorry.

BTW, Tsudanosh, can you confirm atleast if there is a reasonable source for
485493
outside of crafter WO drops?

Are these T6 rare mats added to the reward tables for the new task masters for this area?

I have not seen a reply from the person above looking into the lvl 51+ skinable mob, but I'm fairly certain there is no farmable 51+ mobs to harvest for this material.

Legs and shoulders can deffinately be upgraded now, with
1351136
in the game, so it would be nice to know wether leatherworkers/medium armour wearers got the shaft again, or not.

[Rishara]

Killed Hegnarian last night--no quest updates/no drops. Killed Lord Fangorian (or something like that) -- a new 6 Dot tree in Flordiel -- NO drops. We assume he is supposed to be the one who drops the BP patterns for bug armor.

We have gotten supple hide off of a skinnable mob. I do not remember what level--I think it was a level 50 mob around Rahz. I would not call that a reliable source, just saying that they are able to be harvested. :)

I don't know if I just got lucky, but I was getting aged hide from WO rewards pretty frequently yesterday (at level 40). So maybe the higher WO will drop supple more frequently.

I can also confirm that nihilistic storm particles are in game. As far as I can tell, the entire set can be completed except for perhaps the BP. (mobs are in but drops aren't?) Oh and I do not know if anyone has seen a spore beast membrane yet.

[mauroxx]

yes hengerian drops core, the 6 dot tree drops nothing, nihilistic storm particles and spore beast membrane drops.... MAYBE nihilistic could drop a little more... not much just a little...

[Vassago]

yes hengerian drops core, the 6 dot tree drops nothing, nihilistic storm particles and spore beast membrane drops.... MAYBE nihilistic could drop a little more... not much just a little...

where are they dropping , swamps of rumug or in vrsog moore,flor,itch?

[Seven_PRX]

where are they dropping , swamps of rumug or in vrsog moore,flor,itch?

Yes, very interested in that too. If somebody got the:

Nihilistic Storm Particles
Spore Beast Membrane

to drop, could you tell us which zone/mobs? Would appreciate it greatly...

[Purplenv]

Yes, very interested in that too. If somebody got the:

Nihilistic Storm Particles
Spore Beast Membrane

to drop, could you tell us which zone/mobs? Would appreciate it greatly...

Iono why its not perfectly clear that these drop in the Rumug Dungeon.

BTW, killed the Ichi Queen last night, to receive zero drops.
Are people getting items from the new 6 dots?

[Seven_PRX]

Iono why its not perfectly clear that these drop in the Rumug Dungeon.

BTW, killed the Ichi Queen last night, to receive zero drops.
Are people getting items from the new 6 dots?

I think Nihilistic Storm Particles drop in multipe zones (possibly all) from 4 dots, and besides that, I asked which mobs...

[blockswithface]

Iono why its not perfectly clear that these drop in the Rumug Dungeon.

BTW, killed the Ichi Queen last night, to receive zero drops.
Are people getting items from the new 6 dots?

Some are itemized, some are not. We got server first on the queen, like 1 hour after patch. Killed her several times since and 0 loot.

[Rishara]

I think Nihilistic Storm Particles drop in multipe zones (possibly all) from 4 dots, and besides that, I asked which mobs...

Yeah, someone in our guild got storm particles off of a mob in Flordiel. Unfortunately, I don't know which mob. Also, Curse has it shown to drop off Gorrulosh--the catfish named up in Gorgolok.

[Warsongs]

Anyone notice that upgrading the gear from there new rare stats to the heroic you lose stats on some places.

[Ellestil]

Yea warsongs I did notice that some peices seemed to lose some of their +bonus (like mitigation) on final upgraded armor. The actual armor rating improved, but the bonus went down.

[raiders7]

Hi,

Yesterday I completed the quest taken from the Elf castle NPC (near the crafting area). I was suppose to know how to learn Gorgolog recipes.

Quest is simple as it only bring you to the NPC in Gorgolok that propose you all recipe...

But I still can't learn them.. no high enough... enyone knows what craft level I need to be ???
Did't dev say that they would changed the way or craft level u need to be to learn them ??
I'm lost...

Thanks in advance for your help...

[Rishara]

Hi,

Yesterday I completed the quest taken from the Elf castle NPC (near the crafting area). I was suppose to know how to learn Gorgolog recipes.

Quest is simple as it only bring you to the NPC in Gorgolok that propose you all recipe...

But I still can't learn them.. no high enough... enyone knows what craft level I need to be ???
Did't dev say that they would changed the way or craft level u need to be to learn them ??
I'm lost...

Thanks in advance for your help...

I believe you have to be level 45. The dev did not state that they made the crafting level lower. What they did was allow crafters a way to get the recipes without having to fight for faction. (ie faction from the WO in elani). Prior to adding those WO you basically would have had to be both a high level crafter and high level adventurer.

[Pudsley]

Hardened Wood Vambraces
Hardened Wood Girdle

Still do not exist, they are not onthe loot tables, they are not on any database and no one has ever had them drop.

These are the base items for Itch Heavy armour, assemblies, crafting recipes is all pointless if we can't get past the very first item.

[Pudsley]

I apologise for using such large text, it came out larger than intended and with no edit feature I can't do anything about it (scratch that, found the edit feature, must have confused it with the VG official forum).

None the less, this has been mentioned numerous times and the devs seem to keep missing it, Hardened Wood Bracers and Hardened Wood Girdle are not on the loot tables.

[Rishara]

I apologise for using such large text, it came out larger than intended and with no edit feature I can't do anything about it (scratch that, found the edit feature, must have confused it with the VG official forum).

None the less, this has been mentioned numerous times and the devs seem to keep missing it, Hardened Wood Bracers and Hardened Wood Girdle are not on the loot tables.

Yep, same issue with treated sap. It seems that the bracers/waist are not dropping for bug armor at all?

[mauroxx]

so ... Tsu..

why belts/vambraces are not in game?
why nihilistic storm particles are so hella rare? is that correct?
why there is hengerian but there is not the mob with BPs?

[Vassago]

u need 13000 faction if your a crafter to be able to get the quest to get the recipes, im not sure if u know what npc sells them u prob just need enough faction to go get them ? anyways u need to be able to make grade A of the items in the recipe so thats like 47-48 crafter i think

[Down]

You can get the -spore beast membrane- from the Spore Brutes in the swamp of R.
And the -nihilistic storm particles- from the named 3dots trees in Flordiel, and various other nameds across zones. (i went for those ones since they were easy to farm); droprate is particullary low.

[Aginor05]

And the -nihilistic storm particles- from the named 3dots trees in Flordiel, and various other nameds across zones. (i went for those ones since they were easy to farm); droprate is particullary low.

With constant farming, i've yet to see, or hear about, any storm particles dropping since the hotpatch. Atm, strongly suspecting they got bugged at that time, but would love to hear different.

Got a few before that off some named though (Gorr and a named tree).

[Rishara]

With constant farming, i've yet to see, or hear about, any storm particles dropping since the hotpatch. Atm, strongly suspecting they got bugged at that time, but would love to hear different.

Got a few before that off some named though (Gorr and a named tree).

Folks in our guild have gotten them off Gorg mobs since the hotfix.

[Seven_PRX]

Spore Beast Membrane:
-Spore Brutes (3 dots)
-Sporebeasts (Vicious & others) (4 dots)
(both in Swamps of Rumug)

Leech Barbs:
-Glowing Muckwater mobs in Swamps of Rumug
(both Feeders (3 dots) and some others (4 dots).

Re Nihilistic Storm Particles:
You said named 3 dot mobs, these are the 'general' named mobs I guess? Not the 'real' named ones, the 4/5 dots? (which drop the yellow armor pieces)?

[Tokimasa]

May i ask on which Gorg mobs do the Nihilistic storm particles drop ?

[Tokimasa]

Just got a Nihilistic Storm Particles of a 3d named tree in flordiel.
So they drop, but they are hell rare.

[Seven_PRX]

@Tsudanosh:

Re: Cleric Armor (Gorgalok set):

Right now, the un-upgraded parts are still Medium Armor. Can we please see a change to make this Heavy Armor?

I mean, the Warrior set isn't medium armor, the ranger set isn't cloth armor, then why would the Cleric set be Medium armor? Makes no sense at all.

Right now I have finished all the pieces except leggings + breastplate, but I find myself not using any of it, because it's medium armor. I do like the quests and spent a lot of time doing it, but there is no 'reward' for it right now because no Cleric is going to use the items... Such a shame.

I don't think it should be too much trouble to make the Cleric set Heavy Armor... I understand we share the same armor drops as Shamans & Disciples, being Medium Armor. But it shouldn't be too hard that when a Cleric turns in the quest, we get a Heavy Plate set in return?

Hoping this can be done...

Re: upgrading the Cleric set
Unupgraded: http://www.hoegge.dk/vanguard/armor/Gorgalok%20Medium2%20Base.jpg
Upgraded: http://www.hoegge.dk/vanguard/armor/Gorgalok%20Heavy%20Upgraded.jpg

Basicly, it turns the set from a set aimed at melee (+str, +dex, +critical melee hit chance, etc) into a set aimed at healers/casters (+wis, +int, +critical spell hit chance, etc). Which some Clerics obviously will like. I don't, so I'd like to enquire if it is going to be made possible that a Cleric can chose between upgrading the Medium set we have (or hopefully heavy if it will be changed as I requested up here) to the Heavy Fighter plate set and Cleric Heavy plate set?

Re: Leggings
The mob that supposedly drops the leggings for the Gorgalok quest (Vezilan The Prophet) needs to have his respawn timer upped. This patch alone I have killed the placeholder quite a few times, but haven't seen the named spawn yet. Next to that, last patch, on Tharridon, he was not dropping anything besides a heart. Can this mob be looked at, and perhaps make more mobs that have a chance to drop the leggings?

Re: Breastplate
I assume that the Queen will drop this. Right now, as stated by others, the Queen does not drop anything. Next to that, seeing that the Queen is a level 52 6 dot mob, can we make the Breastplate a level 52/53 Rare item instead of a level 50 Rare item? And/or perhaps turn the BP into Heroic? (and then Legendary if you do the upgrade quest)?

[Rishara]

They already explained that they do not want to make another set of molds for clerics because it would increase the competition for drops even more than it already is.

I don't get why you won't wear medium. Unless you are soloing all the time, there is no reason not to wear medium. (or you play with a really bad tank) And why wouldn't you want to upgrade to the heavy healer? I've never understood why alot of clerics flat out refuse to wear medium even if the stats (except AC) is 8 million times better for them than their heavy.

[Purplenv]

Heh, Heroic first stage BP.
Its not like the queen is hard.
Easy to get to, and easily killed with a skilled group of 6 people, and wouldn't be hard to get done with less.

Legendary BP from this won't happen.

The Screen shots your linked are conflicting, as the quest reward pieces are updated, but the upgraded pieces are not. All upgraded pieces are now heroic.

Gorgaluk leggings do suck.
Roughly 6+ NM's to get shoulders off of, and 1 very rare elusive NM to POSSIBLY get legs from? DOH
Compared to the Gorgaluk NM for the Flordiel pieces, its a LARGE contrast.
I can stomach a rare drop rate, or a rare spawn, but both on the same mob, is O_O.


Things that really need looking at:

Some armour pieces, and their loot tables, and NM's that drop them. Lower pieces for heavy Ichy are missing, BP's are missing. Things like that.

Nihilistic Storm Particles. They do drop, but they seem very elusive, and considering the number required, the availability should be increased, and through multiple areas. Almost all accounts are pointing to Flordiel for a source, but that chunk will get mighty crouded following the merge if that is the only reliable source.

Lastly, T6 materials.
I was getting Aged Lumber from killing Flordiel 4dot+ trees the other night, randomly, but did not see a rare. (due to the low rate of even getting aged logs). Mirror this over to Gorgaluk, that are skinnable mobs, and is this the intended source for Supple Hides?

[Pudsley]

Just got a Nihilistic Storm Particles of a 3d named tree in flordiel.
So they drop, but they are hell rare.

Same here, Valewood in Flordiel dropped it (named 3 dot), killed for months in here, first I've seen.

[Seven_PRX]

They already explained that they do not want to make another set of molds for clerics because it would increase the competition for drops even more than it already is.

I don't get why you won't wear medium. Unless you are soloing all the time, there is no reason not to wear medium. (or you play with a really bad tank) And why wouldn't you want to upgrade to the heavy healer? I've never understood why alot of clerics flat out refuse to wear medium even if the stats (except AC) is 8 million times better for them than their heavy.

They don't have to add more molds: simply keep it as it is now, but when you turn in the quest, make it heavy armor.

If you have the choice between 2 sets of armor, with identical stats & bonusses, and 1 is medium, and 1 is heavy, which will you choose? The Heavy of course. My point was this: why should Clerics be the only class that don't receive the best armor they can wear? A Warrior can wear medium armor too, did they gave him that? No. A ranger can wear cloth, did they give cloth armor to rangers? No of course.

Re the level of the BP: besides the Queen, you also need to kill Hegnarian for components, so that's 2 lvl 52 6 dots. Not saying it's hard, but if you kill level 52 mobs for it, the armor should be the same level. And I meant legendary AFTER you upgrade it with the t6 components, not Legendary for the 'normal' finished quest one.

[Arglaar]

They don't have to add more molds: simply keep it as it is now, but when you turn in the quest, make it heavy armor.

If you have the choice between 2 sets of armor, with identical stats & bonusses, and 1 is medium, and 1 is heavy, which will you choose? The Heavy of course. My point was this: why should Clerics be the only class that don't receive the best armor they can wear? A Warrior can wear medium armor too, did they gave him that? No. A ranger can wear cloth, did they give cloth armor to rangers? No of course.

Re the level of the BP: besides the Queen, you also need to kill Hegnarian for components, so that's 2 lvl 52 6 dots. Not saying it's hard, but if you kill level 52 mobs for it, the armor should be the same level. And I meant legendary AFTER you upgrade it with the t6 components, not Legendary for the 'normal' finished quest one.

When you upgrade the armor, it upgrades into Heavy for Clerics.

If they were to make the change you requested, they would have to rework the 27 different quests, and Create 27 completely new sets of armor to satisfy the new rewards.

Or.... you could just accept the Medium pieces as your reward and upgrade them into the Heavy pieces.

[mauroxx]

Bp mold must drop from mobs in factioned zones... so no queen/king i assume.

Probably those 6 dot wich have been added would be intended to drop bp... but they are on wrong loot table.

[Tsudanosh]

It would seem that the armor component that drops off the factional leaders was not properly attached, so I went ahead and attached them yesterday as well as fixing a couple other minor bugs.

The changes to the upgraded breastplates is almost(TM) complete and should hopefully have a bit of a sneak peak for you later today on that - then I'll be able to bang out the other random issues with the area and ya'll should be set then!

Here's the changes that I made toward the end of the day yesterday (note that these changes are not on live servers yet):


Gorgalog Swamp – Serene Leaf armor will now correctly display as “Serene Leaf” within the assembly recipes window instead of “Fae Blessed”.
Gorgalog Swamp - Serene Leaf Wristguards now correctly require Forest Essence Wristguards within the assembly recipe.
Gorgalog Swamp - Swamp Shaman Wristguards now correctly require Patchwork Chitin Wristguards within the assembly recipe.
Gorgalog Swamp – Lord Faladrian of the Flordiel civilization will now drop the chest-armor components required with the Ichtakhtan civilization.
Gorgalog Swamp – Tishra of the Gorgalok civilization will now drop the chest-armor components required with the Flordiel civilization.
Gorgalog Swamp – Queen Vixxaeva of the Ichtakhta civilization will now drop the chest-armor components required with the Gorgalok civilization.

[Arglaar]

It would seem that the armor component that drops off the factional leaders was not properly attached, so I went ahead and attached them yesterday as well as fixing a couple other minor bugs.

The changes to the upgraded breastplates is almost(TM) complete and should hopefully have a bit of a sneak peak for you later today on that - then I'll be able to bang out the other random issues with the area and ya'll should be set then!

Here's the changes that I made toward the end of the day yesterday (note that these changes are not on live servers yet):


Gorgalog Swamp – Serene Leaf armor will now correctly display as “Serene Leaf” within the assembly recipes window instead of “Fae Blessed”.
Gorgalog Swamp - Serene Leaf Wristguards now correctly require Forest Essence Wristguards within the assembly recipe.
Gorgalog Swamp - Swamp Shaman Wristguards now correctly require Patchwork Chitin Wristguards within the assembly recipe.
Gorgalog Swamp – Lord Faladrian of the Flordiel civilization will now drop the chest-armor components required with the Ichtakhtan civilization.
Gorgalog Swamp – Gannek of the Gorgalok civilization will now drop the chest-armor components required with the Flordiel civilization.
Gorgalog Swamp – Queen Vixxaeva of the Ichtakhta civilization will now drop the chest-armor components required with the Gorgalok civilization.


This is nice to hear. Looking forward to these changes. Any chance you can get them pushed to the server with a Hotfix instead of us having to wait for the next patch cycle, which, according to the Game Update News (http://vgplayers.station.sony.com/newsArchive.vm?id=142&section=News), could be as long as 6 weeks.

Anyone know where (and how) this Gannek guy spawns?
I assumed that Tishra would be the one dropping the BP as I haven't seen Gannek yet.

[Tsudanosh]

This is nice to hear. Looking forward to these changes. Any chance you can get them pushed to the server with a Hotfix instead of us having to wait for the next patch cycle, which, according to the Game Update News (http://vgplayers.station.sony.com/newsArchive.vm?id=142&section=News), could be as long as 6 weeks.

Anyone know where (and how) this Gannek guy spawns?
I assumed that Tishra would be the one dropping the BP as I haven't seen Gannek yet.

Wow, my mistake there - ignore Gannek as it is Tishra, was working on something else as I was typing up the patch note!

So to clarify, *Tishra* drops the component and not *Gannek* =)

[Arglaar]

Wow, my mistake there - ignore Gannek as it is Tishra, was working on something else as I was typing up the patch note!

So to clarify, *Tishra* drops the component and not *Gannek* =)

If that's the case, is something going to be done about Tishra becoming unkillable?

Very frequently, people will run up to the top of the spire, aggroing the Blood Guardians.

When they run away, the Blood Guardians will become stuck inside the walls and unable to be targeted/killed.

As I'm sure you know, if you don't kill the Guardians, you can't kill Tishra.

Also, I have seen instances where we have killed all Three guardians... in the room with Tishra, and he still remains unhostile and an Invalid target.

(I've seen this happen alot more with this patch, not only with the Blood Guardians, but with most mobs in general going inside the walls. It's very prevalent in the Gorgaluk Dungeon with the Greater Mnalus. Often, they will pop themselves up into the ceiling while we are fighting them and the tank has to move a little to get them out.)

[Vassago]

also the roaming sporebeast all fall thru the world as your killing them , making the fight last 3x longer than it should

[Zion25]

Tishra is bugged on our server as well, the Guardians arent attackable...

[Down]

Great, and about the girdle and wrists patterns for Ichtak faction ??

[Dantrin]

also the roaming sporebeast all fall thru the world as your killing them , making the fight last 3x longer than it should

Are the Sporebeast you are talking about the ones within the Gorguluk dungeon?

[Kkat]

Are the Sporebeast you are talking about the ones within the Gorguluk dungeon?


I've also encountered this problem in the Gorg dungeon against the sporebeasts. (lastnight)

Get.......Can't see target.......Target too far away.....on and on....

They also seem to go invis.....most likely from dropping into the floor

[Tsudanosh]

As promised, here is a sneak peak at the exciting changes coming to the Gorgalog Swamp chest armor! Please note that these changes are not yet live and may undergo tweaks and modifications after the time of this posting =)

[Mindful]

As promised, here is a sneak peak at the exciting changes coming to the Gorgalog Swamp chest armor! Please note that these changes are not yet live and may undergo tweaks and modifications after the time of this posting =)



HOLY S@#@ Tsudanash is this for real?

[Mindful]

As promised, here is a sneak peak at the exciting changes coming to the Gorgalog Swamp chest armor! Please note that these changes are not yet live and may undergo tweaks and modifications after the time of this posting =)



And Tsudanosh, are these the only abilities going on the armor? or will anythign else have it?

[picayunesyzygy]

As promised, here is a sneak peak at the exciting changes coming to the Gorgalog Swamp chest armor! Please note that these changes are not yet live and may undergo tweaks and modifications after the time of this posting =)

Why is there twice as much Dexterity on the Death Knight Gorgalok armor than Strength?

[Raynrace]

As promised, here is a sneak peak at the exciting changes coming to the Gorgalog Swamp chest armor! Please note that these changes are not yet live and may undergo tweaks and modifications after the time of this posting =)

No offense, but for the sick amount of time, money and effort the medium armor at least is VERY lacking.

Mail of the Judged dropped for me after being in Rhaz the first day.

Mail of Judged --- Flare Totem
AC -- 372 --- 360
Dex -- 29 --- 34
Str -- 29 --- 34
HP -- 225 --- 83
Con -- 12 --- 0
CMH -- 46 --- 0
CHC -- 0 --- 37
MDR -- 59 --- 0
DR -- 0 --- 85

no effect --- 100 end and +25 dmg for 30 secs every 5 min...


Im sorry but to have a RAID listed quest to get the BP then an Elite quest to get the core from Hegnarian and a t6 hide that is almost non-existant its kinda sad, even the other pieces require an aged hide which doesnt seem to drop anymore...then you have to find a level 48+ crafter to get the final piece crafted without fail and they have to have the faction to, so your looking at plat there which very few have as well.

This is nowhere close to the best bp much less other slots and for the work to get this done compared to getting a group in Rhaz Incur just baffles me. Im not trying to be to much of a pain, but I think this should be considered. None of this armor even has resists, no hide/sneak, no levitate etc. I dont want to jump the gun here, but I would like to at least give input.

As a ranger I have no desire to get the bp or legs at its current state, I thank you for trying and at least you are, and I know you cant please everyone, but i just hate to see so much time and effort from the dev team for something sub-par.

Now if you take into account that this is the gear thats getting us set for raids, there has to be a lot more tuning done. I know its still being tested, but maybe I can contribute some information.

We took 18 people and raided Torkald Who Mourns. He hits a ranger for 4500ish so we are dead in 2 hits. If you take into account that we are agro kings, we die a lot :) We won the fight, it took a looong time to do it, but performance was the biggest problem. Out of the 18 people we had 6 to 8 LD or locked up the whole time with settings at the lowest they would go. Spell particles even when off seemed to still affect it, when we had our druid show up, the animated roots and sunbeam(name?) spell crashed half the raid even with particles off. Also the debuff screen on the target seemed to cause tons of lag, things got better with names off, mini map off etc, but it was still bad.
Pretty much everyone had 1st person view on and we were staring at our feet and turned away from the mob as far as we could to keep 5 to 8 FPS. With this, it isnt possible to do whats needed to be done to be successful. Abilities, Counters, Heals etc.

After this we went to stiirhaad and killed the Wyrm Guardians and they hit for 4600 and AE'd for 4000. We adjusted and made it a ranged fight and won, but the point is resist gear is a must and it isnt even in the "best" gear.

We then tried our 3rd target and failed mserably :) The Sanguine Guardians hit for 10600 and being one shotted just doesnt work haha. Im sure this isnt done and it will be tweaked, but if info can be passed on I will do anything I can to make it better.

I want so much for this to succeed and I know there are a lot of variables, but they all tie into the fact that people love to raid. Eventually it boils down to end-game.

I know I veered off subject some, but its all tied together, I hope the info can help some.

Raynrace
Raid Leader, Anarchy
Flamehammer

[Seven_PRX]

@Tsudanosh:

Are you still considering giving Clerics the option to choose to upgrade to the Heavy Fighter armor sets? And perhaps you could give this option to Paladins too. Why?

Well, when I look at the upgraded Goraglok set (Paladium, should be Offensive set), it gives Energy, Wisdom, Int, Critical Spell Hit Rating & Spiritual Damage Focus.

This set is very good for a Death Cleric, but not for a Paladin or other Clerics, because the last two will rely mostly on Melee Damage, and Energy/Wis/Int isn't going to help there much, Str/Dex/HP/Con are more usefull stats for a Melee class.

Now, before some people say "Please leave it as it is", I am not asking for these sets to be removed/changed, but for the extra option for Clerics & Paladins to chose if they will upgrade to this set, or to the Heavy fighter set. Or perhaps do change the set to give:

Str/Dex/Con/HP, Spiritual Damage Focus & Critical Melee Hit Rating or Melee Damage Rating.
That set would make: Paladins, Clerics (3 affinities) happy, a lot. The set as it is right now basicly makes 1 'class' happy: Clerics who chose Death Affinity. The set I propose here, sounds to me as the most useful set, and is very offensive (as the Gorgalok set should be). Death Clerics probably won't be too happy about that change, but I think the majority (Paladins & 3 Cleric affinities) should be more important than the minority (just Death Clerics).

Ah, and lastly: any thoughts about upping the respawn timer on Vezilan the Prophet, and hopefully changing the un-upgraded Cleric set from Medium to Heavy? (see a earlier post from me about this).

Oh, and is the drop-rare for the Nihilistic Storm Particles set correctly? I spent a great amount of time killing the mobs that should drop it, but haven't seen a single drop so far... And considering we will need 5 for our armor...

And a still existing bug: "Patchwork Chitin: Tunic" still requires a Gorgalok Hide, but the text says it would need Flordiel Tree Pulp. The last makes sense, but the quest requires the hide to finish it, meaning you will have to kill your own faction.

Ow, and thanks for the updates & the work you are putting into this :-)

[Ellestil]

I agree, comparing the time and effort of Rhaz and Swamps, even with the bonus effects (which are nice btw), the armor in swamps still seems underpowered for the time and effort needed to get it. I think maybe BP, Legs, and Shoulders should all have clicky effects/proc effects.

I also keep noticing that with some peices, moving up from the basic version to the upgrade version actually causes you to lose some +bonuses instead of increasing.

Finally, with the BP named "Hegnarian (sp?) guy in Swamps of Rumug Dungeon" being farmable 24/7 by guilds, something needs to change so that people can get in and get their needed cores. Maybe make a seperate rare ring event version of him that drops rare items, and have the other BP core item version be spawnable by a quest. This way people could still hunt him for rares, but people just needing him for their core can get it and leave without lines forming. To make him a 3 hour respawn AND itemize him with other nice rares besides the core gaurentee's he will be on farm status a long long time.

[Fawks Passe]

I agree, comparing the time and effort of Rhaz and Swamps, even with the bonus effects (which are nice btw), the armor in swamps still seems underpowered for the time and effort needed to get it. I think maybe BP, Legs, and Shoulders should all have clicky effects/proc effects.

I also keep noticing that with some peices, moving up from the basic version to the upgrade version actually causes you to lose some +bonuses instead of increasing.

Finally, with the BP named "Hegnarian (sp?) guy in Swamps of Rumug Dungeon" being farmable 24/7 by guilds, something needs to change so that people can get in and get their needed cores. Maybe make a seperate rare ring event version of him that drops rare items, and have the other BP core item version be spawnable by a quest. This way people could still hunt him for rares, but people just needing him for their core can get it and leave without lines forming. To make him a 3 hour respawn AND itemize him with other nice rares besides the core gaurentee's he will be on farm status a long long time.

I'll agree with that. A ring event so people can get just the cores would be nice. Just as hard as the real version of course, but he would at least be accessible to finish the quest.

[Nidial]

I really do not understad. I think "Infuriate", the activated ability of heavy chest armor of Itchtakta is usless. I'm on itchtakta faction and i think that Flordiel one is far better with 20% damage prevented and 25 points damage shield.
Itchtakta is defensive right? So, please add with the 750 hp some % mitigation, % block or whatever.

[Vuron]

I have another question for Tshudanosh & Other Devs.
If Clerics get special treatment on armor why cant Blood Mages get special sets?

My reasoning goes something like this: If clerics are exceptional healers because they can wear heavy armor so are Blood Mages exceptional wearing Light Armor.

I would really like to see a spell damage set mixed with healing focus and spell crits.

As we all know, Clerics are way overpowered so least you can do is to help other classes abit. :))

[Seven_PRX]

I have another question veo Tshudanosh & Other Devs.
If Clerics get special treatment on armor why cant Blood Mages get special sets?

My reasoning goes something like this: If clerics are exeptional healers because they can wear heavy armor so are Blood Mages exeptional wearing Light Armor.

I would really like to see a spell damage set mixed with healing focus and spell crits.

As we all know, Clerics are way overpowered so least you can do is to help other classes abit. :))

? Clerics don't get any special treatment, we share the same set as a Paladin. So what's special about it? And BMs are more powerful than Clerics (higher mitigation, better healing, better dps), but let's not turn this thread into a class comparison thread :-)

[Vassago]

Are the Sporebeast you are talking about the ones within the Gorguluk dungeon?

yes dantrin the sporebeast in swamps of rumug , all the roamer ones are fallen thru the floor as your trying to kill them.also there is numerous npcs that whey your fighting them they stand right on top of you, making it hard to see your target also, some mobs are teh elite champions, the named abomination npc, some reavers. not sure whats going on with that but same thing happens cant see target cause no line of sight , but these ones dont fall thru the world hehe

[Aixem]

We encoutered the dungeon already befor the patch we had not so much problems infact we were just sad Hegnerian was not there, right now u cant see a mop if he doesn´t stand on a perfectly flat ground...... :rolleyes:

We switched to razad and there is the problem again, when the mop is not standing on a perfectly flat ground u cant see or attack them.

[Funkey]

So Mr Tsudanosh sir,

Can you please confirm for sure whether the Ichtakhta bracers AND waist items for the Light ("Formed Leaf"), 2 medium armour sets ("Treated Sap" and "Splintered Bark") and heavy armour set ("Hardened Wood") are actually in the game?

This issue seems to be skirted round every time its mentioned.

If they are indeed missing, do we have an ETA on when they'll be introduced? :)

[Tsudanosh]

Yah sorry.

BTW, Tsudanosh, can you confirm atleast if there is a reasonable source for
485493
outside of crafter WO drops?

Are these T6 rare mats added to the reward tables for the new task masters for this area?

I have not seen a reply from the person above looking into the lvl 51+ skinable mob, but I'm fairly certain there is no farmable 51+ mobs to harvest for this material.

Legs and shoulders can deffinately be upgraded now, with
1351136
in the game, so it would be nice to know wether leatherworkers/medium armour wearers got the shaft again, or not.

I just modified a ton of NPCs throughout Gorgalog Swamp to fall into this category for harvesters. There's also some other additions that I am hooking up for harvesters to more easily obtain materials that are also gained through slaying NPCs.

It was a large problem looking at the data for this region to obtain the skinned resources, as you have pointed out, but that should shortly be rectified and much more readily available.

[Tsudanosh]

So Mr Tsudanosh sir,

Can you please confirm for sure whether the Ichtakhta bracers AND waist items for the Light ("Formed Leaf"), 2 medium armour sets ("Treated Sap" and "Splintered Bark") and heavy armour set ("Hardened Wood") are actually in the game?

This issue seems to be skirted round every time its mentioned.

If they are indeed missing, do we have an ETA on when they'll be introduced? :)

Not skirting around it - just haven't had the time to look at the data while working on the other issues. I looked at this data earlier this morning and modified a good chunk of NPCs to be able to drop those components so they should become much more readily available!

[Arglaar]

I just modified a ton of NPCs throughout Gorgalog Swamp to fall into this category for harvesters. There's also some other additions that I am hooking up for harvesters to more easily obtain materials that are also gained through slaying NPCs.

It was a large problem looking at the data for this region to obtain the skinned resources, as you have pointed out, but that should shortly be rectified and much more readily available.

Would that also include the ability to skin Sporebeasts for their membranes?

Any further examples you could give?

[Funkey]

Not skirting around it - just haven't had the time to look at the data while working on the other issues. I looked at this data earlier this morning and modified a good chunk of NPCs to be able to drop those components so they should become much more readily available!

Many thanks for the reply, now we wait in hope that the patch containing these additions comes soon hehehe :)

[Lav]

From what I have experienced and heard, here is a summary of a Cleric.

I was doing the Gorgalok set (killing bugs). I have gotten all the pieces of my armor except for the boots which I gave up trying to get when I realized how silly the set will be for my build. Aside from that, half the pieces have been upgraded to their first version.

As of last night, Hangerian spawns now on a 6 hour timer i hear. He dropped the core of ezigoth (somone trying to sell for 1pp) and all the upgradable components are in game now I've been told. So even the chest piece is supposivly spawning yet none have confirmed it.

So the swamp is officially active I assume. Anyways I have personally seen the core linked to me and some of the other items that were missing. Maybe this helps. BTW I will not be finishing this set as a cleric until/if I see a change in the offensive armor set.

Lav
50 Cleric - Varking
Order of the Leet

[Talnayen]

The only thing I find funny is that the Defensive cleric BP for Itchy faction is actually LESS AC than the balanced version in Flordiel.

I don't understand that. I do in a way, because of the stat distribution, but just seems kinda weird that the defensive set would have lower Armor class.

And why don't these pieces have some wisdom.. Rather drop the dex for some wisdom.

[Seven_PRX]

BTW I will not be finishing this set as a cleric until/if I see a change in the offensive armor set.

I'm currently doing the Gorgalok armor quest, as a Cleric, because I wanted an offensive set. Have all pieces finished except leggings + bp.

Anyway, you are correct that right now, the offensive set, isn't really offensive for Clerics. Somehow, we get Energy/Wis/Int/Spell Crit Chance, etc. Now, I don't know many Clerics that actually use spells to do damage, except Death Clerics, which are a minority. We actually share the upgraded set with Paladins, so I'm lost why we get so weird stats. Most of the Paladins & Clerics will use Melee to do damage, so I would have expected a lot of Str & Dex, HP/CON & Melee Damage Rating / Melee Critical hit Chance. But alas, we seem to get only 1 offensive thing: Spiritual Spell Damage Focus. Now, I'm not sure this actually works for Melee Abilities... If it doesn't, than it's a useless thing.

I have been trying to get the Devs attention by posting our concerns in this thread, so I hope he has read it, and will make the set more usefull for Paladins & Clerics, more melee based offensive set, because 90% of the players will use melee to do damage.

Next to that, we are also the only class that gets a 'lower' version of the armor than that which we can use. Meaning that we get Medium Armor instead of Plate. Talking here about the un-upgraded armor. I also hope this will be changed to Heavy.

[Tokimasa]

Bumping some bugs i didn't see in the fixes.

There is no Gloves armor quest for the Medium Melee Ichtakhta.

.

[Tokimasa]

There is no real recipes at the Assembly Table for the upgrade of the Splintered Membranous Armors (Medium Melee Ichtakhta)

For example : in order to have Shadowmantis Leggings, i need to combine Splintered Membranous Leggings + Shadowmantis Leggings. This is an impossible recipe :)
Same thing for the other armor parts.

.

[Ellestil]

I have to say, the Defensive BP clicky ability of turning into a bug and gaining 750hps for 30 secs is a bit underwhelming. Raiding (or even vs some current mobs) 750hps will be gone in one hit. Seems like the defensive armor is lacking in the perks department compared to the balanced BP which has mulitple bonuses added to it including 20% mitigation, damage shield, etc.

Now if the Defensive BP made you immune to damage for 10 secs then after that for the next 20 secs boosted your hp's by 750hps, that would be something fitting.

[Pudsley]

I have to say, the Defensive BP clicky ability of turning into a bug and gaining 750hps for 30 secs is a bit underwhelming. Raiding (or even vs some current mobs) 750hps will be gone in one hit. Seems like the defensive armor is lacking in the perks department compared to the balanced BP which has mulitple bonuses added to it including 20% mitigation, damage shield, etc.

Now if the Defensive BP made you immune to damage for 10 secs then after that for the next 20 secs boosted your hp's by 750hps, that would be something fitting.

Agreed, the current Itchi Heavy BP clicky is just, well....weak.

[Aixem]

Agreed, the current Itchi Heavy BP clicky is just, well....weak.

Check out the Gorgalok Abilitys ... 10sec Immun and + 750HP afterwards why dont make u indestructible for the hole game ...... :rolleyes:

The Gorgalok is good but stands in my opinion behind the other faction gears.

[Purplenv]

I just modified a ton of NPCs throughout Gorgalog Swamp to fall into this category for harvesters. There's also some other additions that I am hooking up for harvesters to more easily obtain materials that are also gained through slaying NPCs.

It was a large problem looking at the data for this region to obtain the skinned resources, as you have pointed out, but that should shortly be rectified and much more readily available.

Thank you Tsudanosh for clearing that up.

Any indication what criteria will push the Gorgalog mobs to spawn T6 corspe?
Mob level? Mob level/dot? 100% Random? Specific camp?

Depending on the method implemented, locating this source, without some form of a hint, could prove problematic.
Additionally, if you make Torn Gorg. strips pop more frequently, thats 3 types of corpse, before you even get a rare.

As a 500 Skinner I'm happy for the effort, and just hoping the change has been implemented effectively.

[Mortifera]

Some abilities should be reversed IMO.

The defensive BP should give you the immunity to snare/stuns, not the other one.

I agree with some above, the defensive stuff needs some adjustments...

[Tsudanosh]

There is no real recipes at the Assembly Table for the upgrade of the Splintered Membranous Armors (Medium Melee Ichtakhta)

For example : in order to have Shadowmantis Leggings, i need to combine Splintered Membranous Leggings + Shadowmantis Leggings. This is an impossible recipe :)
Same thing for the other armor parts.

.

I fixed that issue yesterday - it's going through the pipeline now.

[Tsudanosh]

I fixed that issue yesterday - it's going through the pipeline now.

After some careful consideration and planning, I came up with a solution to encompass more melee-driven clerics as well as melee-driven medium armor healers.

I'm working on the data now and making sure I'm not leaving any holes, but once the database work is complete, all heavy armor will be available to clerics and all medium armor geared toward melee combatants will be available to shamans and such as well.

HOWEVER!

The platemail armor will not upgrade into the specialized clerical / paladin armor that already exists. It will upgrade into the platemail armor geared for melee combatants only (as it currently is).

If you do wish to continue the route to get the specialize clerical armor, you will need to continue with the medium armor intended for spell casting classes as your base.

Descriptions of the armor components that drop throughout the Gorgalog Swamp have been adjusted to reflect this change.

[renaux]

@tsudanosh

my questions are why are the itch armor drops off of mobs non-tradeable but gorgalok's are? I have been farming for days for plate armor but no drops only medium and light and if these were made tradeable so that i could give to guildies that are also working on the same faction would help tremendously. maybe place a no sell on them but take off the no trade would be great .

#2 can you increase the drop rate of the armors, the drop rate is wayyyyyy to slow

#3 why are the icth melee plate stats dropped when upgraded to final product you would think that all the stats would go up ...if this is geared to be raid material...the stats need a jump also

[Arglaar]

After some careful consideration and planning, I came up with a solution to encompass more melee-driven clerics as well as melee-driven medium armor healers.

I'm working on the data now and making sure I'm not leaving any holes, but once the database work is complete, all heavy armor will be available to clerics and all medium armor geared toward melee combatants will be available to shamans and such as well.

HOWEVER!

The platemail armor will not upgrade into the specialized clerical / paladin armor that already exists. It will upgrade into the platemail armor geared for melee combatants only (as it currently is).

If you do wish to continue the route to get the specialize clerical armor, you will need to continue with the medium armor intended for spell casting classes as your base.

Descriptions of the armor components that drop throughout the Gorgalog Swamp have been adjusted to reflect this change.

Can you make the same change for the Light armor as well?

As a Hayatet Shaman, I would love the chance to get some of the Light armor pieces to fill in my spell damage.

[Vassago]

I have to say, the Defensive BP clicky ability of turning into a bug and gaining 750hps for 30 secs is a bit underwhelming. Raiding (or even vs some current mobs) 750hps will be gone in one hit. Seems like the defensive armor is lacking in the perks department compared to the balanced BP which has mulitple bonuses added to it including 20% mitigation, damage shield, etc.

Now if the Defensive BP made you immune to damage for 10 secs then after that for the next 20 secs boosted your hp's by 750hps, that would be something fitting.

or maybe heals you for 750 and get 750 hps for 30 sec , can come in handy every 5 min

[Tsudanosh]

or maybe heals you for 750 and get 750 hps for 30 sec , can come in handy every 5 min

It heals you for 750 as well - basically increases your maximum health by 750 as well as healing in that addition.

I'll take a second pass at things and do some comparisons, but quite honestly - in my experience as a group and raid tank as a player - increasing my maximum amount of hit points has been invaluable to wipe prevention.

The healing component in addition to that is an instant heal on the tank's part that easily make or break the success of the party / raid.

Still doing the data work on opening up more armor availability, after which I'll do a final pass on the armor effects.

[Talnayen]

It heals you for 750 as well - basically increases your maximum health by 750 as well as healing in that addition.

I'll take a second pass at things and do some comparisons, but quite honestly - in my experience as a group and raid tank as a player - increasing my maximum amount of hit points has been invaluable to wipe prevention.

The healing component in addition to that is an instant heal on the tank's part that easily make or break the success of the party / raid.

Still doing the data work on opening up more armor availability, after which I'll do a final pass on the armor effects.

I just don't think thats really the issue here. The biggest issue people have is that it is so much easier to head to Rhaz and kill 5 named outside or inside, and then summon a mob to get a piece of level 50+ Heroic gear in less than 3 hours, if your lucky.

This quest is just so much harder, and unless there is a 3rd tier to turn something legendary, or things get buffed up to level 52 or 53, the armor is going to lack something for the effort involved.

Just my two cents rehashing. I know this horse has been beaten to death.

[Lav]

After some careful consideration and planning, I came up with a solution to encompass more melee-driven clerics as well as melee-driven medium armor healers.

I'm working on the data now and making sure I'm not leaving any holes, but once the database work is complete, all heavy armor will be available to clerics and all medium armor geared toward melee combatants will be available to shamans and such as well.

HOWEVER!

The platemail armor will not upgrade into the specialized clerical / paladin armor that already exists. It will upgrade into the platemail armor geared for melee combatants only (as it currently is).

If you do wish to continue the route to get the specialize clerical armor, you will need to continue with the medium armor intended for spell casting classes as your base.

Descriptions of the armor components that drop throughout the Gorgalog Swamp have been adjusted to reflect this change.


Okay that sounds good except for one thing. Some of us (like me for example) have already collected and made some of the first set of pieces. Is there any way we could maybe trade it for another set? Because I will not grind down there for another pointless week or two to get the armor set I want now because I was told before I had to get the medium healer set. I havent upgraded any pieces of my set yet but I have either the shattered chitin or patchwork chitin pieces.

If this would be possible, then I'd finish this armor. If not, then I wont bother with it.

[Nidial]

By the way...are you guys from other servers [I'm on Gelenia] still looting Nihistic?
Yesterday,fter about 6hours grinding neither me or my friend got any.
Is something wrong or just unluck?

[raiders7]

HI,

Sorry to disturb... I have to admit that I kinda give up this area because several
things were missing in the game, I needed to be a +45 crafter etc...

I took the Gorgolog faction, so :

- Gorgolog armor pieces are in the game ??? BP can be found ???
- are all ingredients in the game ??? (and where ?? :) )

Thanks in advance,

[Seven_PRX]

After some careful consideration and planning, I came up with a solution to encompass more melee-driven clerics as well as melee-driven medium armor healers.

I'm working on the data now and making sure I'm not leaving any holes, but once the database work is complete, all heavy armor will be available to clerics and all medium armor geared toward melee combatants will be available to shamans and such as well.

HOWEVER!

The platemail armor will not upgrade into the specialized clerical / paladin armor that already exists. It will upgrade into the platemail armor geared for melee combatants only (as it currently is).

If you do wish to continue the route to get the specialize clerical armor, you will need to continue with the medium armor intended for spell casting classes as your base.

Descriptions of the armor components that drop throughout the Gorgalog Swamp have been adjusted to reflect this change.


@Tsudanosh: Sounds very good :-) But, right now I have already spent a lot of time to get all the Cleric Medium Armor, and have finished the quests for all pieces except leggings & bp. As I read your text, the Medium Armor stays as it is right now, so if I want to get the Heavy Plate, I will have to start collecting all the pieces again?

Can a GM swap the armor pieces when the new options are in-game, else it will mean another month of grinding to get the heavy pieces :-)

Thanks for listening to our input, it's greatly appreciated!

-7

[Seven_PRX]

HI,

Sorry to disturb... I have to admit that I kinda give up this area because several
things were missing in the game, I needed to be a +45 crafter etc...

I took the Gorgolog faction, so :

- Gorgolog armor pieces are in the game ??? BP can be found ???
- are all ingredients in the game ??? (and where ?? :) )

Thanks in advance,

All pieces are in-game, EXCEPT the Breastplate, that will be added next patch.

[Tsudanosh]

@Tsudanosh: Sounds very good :-) But, right now I have already spent a lot of time to get all the Cleric Medium Armor, and have finished the quests for all pieces except leggings & bp. As I read your text, the Medium Armor stays as it is right now, so if I want to get the Heavy Plate, I will have to start collecting all the pieces again?

Can a GM swap the armor pieces when the new options are in-game, else it will mean another month of grinding to get the heavy pieces :-)

Thanks for listening to our input, it's greatly appreciated!

-7

Yes, the medium armor continues to upgrade into specialized cleric armor for clerics.

If you want the melee-focused heavy armor that warriors and such can use, then you will need to obtain the components in order to do so.

Honestly it would be unlikely that GMs would swap out your currently held armor for the other set as that could open a flood gate of mass proportions!

[Seven_PRX]

Yes, the medium armor continues to upgrade into specialized cleric armor for clerics.

If you want the melee-focused heavy armor that warriors and such can use, then you will need to obtain the components in order to do so.

Honestly it would be unlikely that GMs would swap out your currently held armor for the other set as that could open a flood gate of mass proportions!

Ah, that's too bad, considering how much time I (and others) spent gathering & finishing the (medium) armor so far. If GMs can't swap items, could perhaps the quest givers have an option to swap the medium for heavy armor? I know that this has been done for other quests, ie. weapon quests where people could turn in 1 weapon for another, so perhaps this could be done for the armor? I really hope this can be done...

[Silueen]

What do you have to do to have the armor upgrades show up under the assembly window anyways? I have gorgalok listed, but switched to Flordiel and have none of their upgrades.

[Mardy]

Big kudos on designing the effects on those armor devs, thank you. I wasn't gonna do this quest until I saw the newly added effects to them. I'm gonna do them now for sure.

Unlike some other people, I personally don't care spending some time doing these quests. Sure people can go to Rhaz and get something comparable with less amount of time, but what else are people gonna do in this game? I'm gonna chill and do these quests, I like those effects offered.

I just hope the devs can complete and bug-fix these areas soon. It's been a few months and still buggy and missing things people need.

[Arglaar]

What do you have to do to have the armor upgrades show up under the assembly window anyways? I have gorgalok listed, but switched to Flordiel and have none of their upgrades.

Did you do the first "Turn in 25 items" quest?

For the Flordiel, I believe it's turning in 25 Gorgalok Tribal Necklaces.

After you turn in the first set, it should unlock the Assembly recipes for that set of armor.

[Silueen]

Did you do the first "Turn in 25 items" quest?

For the Flordiel, I believe it's turning in 25 Gorgalok Tribal Necklaces.

After you turn in the first set, it should unlock the Assembly recipes for that set of armor.

Cool thanks.

[renaux]

please increase the drop rate just a little more for the armor, and make them no sell not no trade...plse

[Tsudanosh]

What do you have to do to have the armor upgrades show up under the assembly window anyways? I have gorgalok listed, but switched to Flordiel and have none of their upgrades.

I've also added to it so it will allow you to view the upgraded assembly recipes after you complete any of the armor quests as well.

Should go live with the next game update!

[mauroxx]

I've also added to it so it will allow you to view the upgraded assembly recipes after you complete any of the armor quests as well.

Should go live with the next game update!

Dont forget of what is not dropping~

Oh... dont know if we got it bugged on gelania, me with friends farmed Flordiel Circle area for uhmm 4h straight... maybe more, no pieces of any armor, no nihilistic dropped...

can you ceck plz?

This happend also to some friend of us farming aswell

[Silueen]

Yeah, I have had two of the nihilistic storm particles drop, just enough to finish my shawl, but those took a while. Now to get three more for my pants.

[Synn]

Sorry if this has been asked before and I missed it but do you have to have the ring from the Emissary equipped before armor parts or ingredients will drop off mobs in the zone? Or will they drop at anytime randomly?

[Arglaar]

*edit* Wrong thread... wrong response.

[Lav]

Yes, the medium armor continues to upgrade into specialized cleric armor for clerics.

If you want the melee-focused heavy armor that warriors and such can use, then you will need to obtain the components in order to do so.

Honestly it would be unlikely that GMs would swap out your currently held armor for the other set as that could open a flood gate of mass proportions!

So seeing as clerics HAD to get the medium healer set before and had NO option of another set. There is no way we can do a switch of armor? Im saying for example: I have the offensive pieces (all but chest now) and some are upgraded to their first level. But now that I will be able to use the heavy pieces of offensive (WHICH i sold an entire set almost due to not needing since I coudlnt use them), I am stuck with the medium pieces to which I dont need and have already upgraded some.

Is there ANY possible way to switch armor pieces? Even if its the Base armors only (just the piece not the completed quest or upgraded version). And I am saying Ill give one of my Medium Healer pieces of OFFENSIVE for the same heavey OFFENSIVE piece (med healer offensive legs for heavy offensive legs). Not interswitching the offensive/defensive/balanced with each other obviously.

It would just seem a bit fairer since we had no choice to begin with in the beginning. It was gather medium healer or nothing. Now we have a choice but some of already collected/made some pieces and possibly upgraded them too. This would be something to consider greatly.

[Kormus]

@Tsudanosh:

I compiled a spreadsheat of the tank armour sets here:
http://www.gonzwerks.de/parses/swamp_spreadsheet.xls

a) All upgraded tank sets have issues, the melee effects of all sets are downgrades (maybe an oversight).
b) The Ichthakta non BP/leg pieces are not worth the effort it takes to quest them - their stat upgrades are far to small to be worth the effort besides the AC gain.

[Purplenv]

@Tsudanosh:

I compiled a spreadsheat of the tank armour sets here:
http://www.gonzwerks.de/parses/swamp_spreadsheet.xls

a) All upgraded tank sets have issues, the melee effects of all sets are downgrades (maybe an oversight).
b) The Ichthakta non BP/leg pieces are not worth the effort it takes to quest them - their stat upgrades are far to small to be worth the effort besides the AC gain.


Kormus,

You do realize that any gear piece, the same level/slot and only differing by Rare and Heroic only has a point increase difference of 10% right?

Yes you may go down in some stats, but the points are still spent in other areas, since you see one stat that is significantly increased more then 1.10

I don't agree that its right to reduce stats on an upgrades, to allocate points for something else, atleast it should be the same, and the other stats use the bonus 10% points.

To complete my full set of upgraded Gorg, all I need is BP pattern, Head pattern (stupid 4 dot random drop...), Spore Beast Membrane, 3 Nihilistic Storm Particles, and 2 more Supple Hides.

I think this is pretty reasonable with my casual play time, and only starting to really look at this area, less then 2 weeks ago.

Heroic gear that can easily be solo's, shouldn't have remarkable bopnus stats. (ie, belt, bracers, arms, gloves in most cases)

[mauroxx]

@Va$$ago (uh remeber old EQ? uhuh Va$$ago?)

I read all this thread, i m the worldfirst owner of 4 pieces of upgraded heavy armor, world first hengerian kill... i started killing these mobs for pieces when all were at rhaz inkur and thetamani... maybe there is a reason for REPEATING and REPEATING to fix... dont you think?

Just who is stuck since 20 days on his own armor/quests can understand how frustrating it is, we just want too be sure they will get a fair fix on next patch.

That's all

PS: pieces are NOT dropping, not... they have low drop rate... they are NOT dropping anymore since few days.

[Kormus]

I strongly disagree, Purp - if I spend the time and effort to actually upgrade my armour I can expect the asskicking stats to be actually upgraded.
For a tank this means the mitigation/accuracy/crit - I could care less about two points of strength or 30hp, the mods are what makes this armour great.
If the "upgrades" downgrade the hallmark of this armour the upgrade is worthless and should be looked at.

[brendan]

I've been working on Gorgalog faction cloth gear: Here's where to get the drops I know about so far:

Pulsing Mucus Cuffs: Ichtakhta Bloodhook or Ichtakhta Worker. Both 2 dot. There's plenty of Bloodhooks out the front of the Ichtakhta town to solo.
Pulsing Mucus Sash: Ichtakhta Bloodhook. 2 dot, easily soloed.
Pulsing Mucus Underlay: Swamp Lancer (3 dot), easily soloed.
Pulsing Mucus Gloves: Swamp Lancer (3 dot) or Ichtakhta Seer (4 dot). If you're soloing then there's plenty of Lancers to hit.

Pulsing Mucus Slippers/Pulsing Mucus Hood: Can't find these. They apparantly drop from Abhorrant Brute, Ichtakhta Mistress, Ichtakhta Adjutant. But those 3 mobs are all PH for nameds, and there's only ever one up at once, so it's kind of hard to farm for.

Pulsing Mucus Shawl: Drops from any of the 4 dot nameds. Very easy to do invis farm runs on with a group.
Pulsing Mucus Pantaloons: Drops from Verizan the Prophet. He is a pain because he's something like a 2H respawn and has a PH so it's around 6-10 hours per named and the pants are a rare drop. =( I got mine though! Cheesy

Pulsing Mucus Robe: Will drop from the Queen (6 dot level 52) as of next patch apparantly. Not hard to kill with a decent group.

Warped Wind Essence: Drops from a lot of the 3-4 dots in Ichtakhta/Flordial. Fairly common. In all of my solo farming to get my first 4 armour pieces I ended up with around 10 of these, almost entirely from Swamp Lancers.
Fragmented Wind Essence: Drops quite commonly from Ichtakhta Bloodhooks which are very common mobs.
Flordial Tree Pulp: Drops from most of the mobs you find in Flordial. Butcher a bunch of fairies/trees/wolves/humanoids/moths there and you'll get plenty of Pulps.
Residual Chaos Energy: Drops from nameds and many 4 dots apparantly although I've killed many many many nameds and only ever seen one drop, and I lost the random. =(
Nihilistic Storm Particles: Rarely drop from named trees in Flordial.

So basically my question is: Where can I find Pulsing Mucus Boots/Hood, Residual Chaos Energy and Nihilistic Storm Particles?

[Seven_PRX]

So basically my question is: Where can I find Pulsing Mucus Boots/Hood, Residual Chaos Energy and Nihilistic Storm Particles?

All caps & boots seem to drop from the 4 dots inside the caves/tunnels (so not the nameds or ph's).

Residual Chaos Energy was also dropping from those.

Nihilistic Storm Particles drop from the named 3 dot trees in Flordiel. I spent a few days there without any drops, then one day in 2 hours I got 2 drops. So seems to be very random.

[Nomras]

Just straightening a fact that I have noticed.

Residual Chaos Energy Drops from: 4 Dot none Named, or even 3 Dot frogs.
Nihilistic Storm Particles Drop from Named mobs. Not only named trees in Flordiel.

And for those who are guessing you can only learn the recipe not only after a certain level but you will also require a faction of at least 13000 to learn it.

[Purplenv]

I've been working on Gorgalog faction cloth gear: Here's where to get the drops I know about so far:

Pulsing Mucus Cuffs: Ichtakhta Bloodhook or Ichtakhta Worker. Both 2 dot. There's plenty of Bloodhooks out the front of the Ichtakhta town to solo.
Pulsing Mucus Sash: Ichtakhta Bloodhook. 2 dot, easily soloed.
Pulsing Mucus Underlay: Swamp Lancer (3 dot), easily soloed.
Pulsing Mucus Gloves: Swamp Lancer (3 dot) or Ichtakhta Seer (4 dot). If you're soloing then there's plenty of Lancers to hit.

Pulsing Mucus Slippers/Pulsing Mucus Hood: Can't find these. They apparantly drop from Abhorrant Brute, Ichtakhta Mistress, Ichtakhta Adjutant. But those 3 mobs are all PH for nameds, and there's only ever one up at once, so it's kind of hard to farm for.

Pulsing Mucus Shawl: Drops from any of the 4 dot nameds. Very easy to do invis farm runs on with a group.
Pulsing Mucus Pantaloons: Drops from Verizan the Prophet. He is a pain because he's something like a 2H respawn and has a PH so it's around 6-10 hours per named and the pants are a rare drop. =( I got mine though! Cheesy

Pulsing Mucus Robe: Will drop from the Queen (6 dot level 52) as of next patch apparantly. Not hard to kill with a decent group.

Warped Wind Essence: Drops from a lot of the 3-4 dots in Ichtakhta/Flordial. Fairly common. In all of my solo farming to get my first 4 armour pieces I ended up with around 10 of these, almost entirely from Swamp Lancers.
Fragmented Wind Essence: Drops quite commonly from Ichtakhta Bloodhooks which are very common mobs.
Flordial Tree Pulp: Drops from most of the mobs you find in Flordial. Butcher a bunch of fairies/trees/wolves/humanoids/moths there and you'll get plenty of Pulps.
Residual Chaos Energy: Drops from nameds and many 4 dots apparantly although I've killed many many many nameds and only ever seen one drop, and I lost the random. =(
Nihilistic Storm Particles: Rarely drop from named trees in Flordial.

So basically my question is: Where can I find Pulsing Mucus Boots/Hood, Residual Chaos Energy and Nihilistic Storm Particles?

Gorg legs, there is another mob that drops them.
Not easy to find, but a much easier fight.
I got the world first on the Swamp Leather legs, YESTERDAY, because of the difficulty in acquiring these patterns. (thats the yellows quest grade reward, not the upgraded)

You forgot to mention the Leech Barbs, Spore Beast Membranes, Fungal Arcane Bulb or the Undamaged Fungal Fibre. All of those drop in Rumug, near/in the dungeon. (Should be pretty straight forward, once you see the mob types down there).
Undamaged Fungal Fibre can be gotton from easily mushroom guys in the three faction areas.

The Core too, which comes from Hegnerian.

As of last night, all I'm missing now, for a full set of Flare Totem, is the Head pattern, BP pattern, and 2-3 Supple Hides ^^

[kastickboy]

after seeing the screen shots from the other thread i have a request for the devs.

Please make one of the sets of light armor a Healing Focus set of gear! as a bloodmage i have set myself up as a high WIS/HF with even INT/VIT. I have a bit of SDF but as a solo healer in groups i like having a lot of HF. SDF isnt going to do me a bit of good when fighting +10 level mobs (raid) as all ill be getting is resists for my life taps. This crap is going on in the coliseum as all of our gear is listed under the caster section instead of healer...

KA

[Vuron]

after seeing the screen shots from the other thread i have a request for the devs.

Please make one of the sets of light armor a Healing Focus set of gear! as a bloodmage i have set myself up as a high WIS/HF with even INT/VIT. I have a bit of SDF but as a solo healer in groups i like having a lot of HF. SDF isnt going to do me a bit of good when fighting +10 level mobs (raid) as all ill be getting is resists for my life taps. This crap is going on in the coliseum as all of our gear is listed under the caster section instead of healer...

KA

Yes, but You are only second person to mention it, so we dont have enough leverage to get heard. But i really hope to see devs (Tshudanosh) responding, why light armor healing set is left out? Maybe there is a good reason for it?

[Arglaar]

Yes, but You are only second person to mention it, so we dont have enough leverage to get heard. But i really hope to see devs (Tshudanosh) responding, why light armor healing set is left out? Maybe there is a good reason for it?

Because as MOST BM's would have you believe, they do all of their healing through their damage and so they don't need healing bonuses.

[Vuron]

Because as MOST BM's would have you believe, they do all of their healing through their damage and so they don't need healing bonuses.

Well yes and no. Dots and Regens are still usefull especially with Epic tanking and those use healing focus as well.

[shine]

This has probably been asked already but to go through 60 pages is a little much.

I got ichakata or whatever faction (6352 i think) and found the armor quest giver i was grouped with my DK friend. He got to choose from the heavy and medium sets while i only got to choose the medium set.

I realise the medium upgrades into the healer plate but i was looking forward to getting the tank set. Will the medium upgrade into that set or can i not get it or is it bugged that i cannot choose the heavy rare non-upgraded set?

I like the tank set best as i am a war affinity cleric and the offensive cleric gear is for a death cleric, the defensive is for a purification cleric and the balanced is kinda useless imo since spiritual dmg focus does nothing for me as i cast no damage spells ever. So that Leaves me with nothing i want except the defensive tank set.

Any help would be apriciated :)

[shine]

After some careful consideration and planning, I came up with a solution to encompass more melee-driven clerics as well as melee-driven medium armor healers.

I'm working on the data now and making sure I'm not leaving any holes, but once the database work is complete, all heavy armor will be available to clerics and all medium armor geared toward melee combatants will be available to shamans and such as well.

HOWEVER!

The platemail armor will not upgrade into the specialized clerical / paladin armor that already exists. It will upgrade into the platemail armor geared for melee combatants only (as it currently is).

If you do wish to continue the route to get the specialize clerical armor, you will need to continue with the medium armor intended for spell casting classes as your base.

Descriptions of the armor components that drop throughout the Gorgalog Swamp have been adjusted to reflect this change.

Ok i jsut read this now when is this change goin in because i cannot get the heavy armor quests yet its June 25th. Any eta on when this will be in?

[Seven_PRX]

Ok i jsut read this now when is this change goin in because i cannot get the heavy armor quests yet its June 25th. Any eta on when this will be in?

They said next patch, so perhaps this week. But be happy you didn't start the quest yet, most Clerics, as I, have completed the Medium Cleric pieces, and as it is now, we have to start all over, which means a lot of wasted time unfortunately... Just hoping they make the quest giver swap the armor from medium to heavy...

[Einyen]

2 minor bugs:

- As a psionicist in ichtakhta besides my 9 quests for light armor I have a quest for medium "Strident Sap Leggings" which I can't use.
- "cosmectic" bug: Quest for my light cuffs are called "Formed Leaf Cuffs" instead of "Stasis Threaded Cuffs".

http://www.hoegge.dk/vanguard/quests.jpg

[Arglaar]

Gorgalog Swamp – Serene Leaf armor will now correctly display as “Serene Leaf” within the assembly recipes window instead of “Fae Blessed”.
Gorgalog Swamp - Serene Leaf Wristguards now correctly require Forest Essence Wristguards within the assembly recipe.
Gorgalog Swamp - Swamp Shaman Wristguards now correctly require Patchwork Chitin Wristguards within the assembly recipe.


I've found another bug related to this issue... I have /bugged it in game.

Night before last, I completed my Forest Essence Belt.
I Brought up my Assembly tab, clicked on the Serene Leaf Belt recipe and clicked the Begin button (I had the upgrade components already).
The timer bar moved across my screen and I was presented with a loot window after it completed.
The loot window contained Serene Leaf WRISTGUARDS.

I petitioned it in-game and a GM replied back by E-mail saying they could not help me and to /bug it.

Now I have the ability to make 2 sets of Serene Leaf Wristguards (I already finished my Forest Essence Wrists but couldn't upgrade thanks to the broken recipe) and I am out the Belt.

Would it be possible for you to give quest giver (Telnia) the ability to switch out the incorrect assembly reward for the correct one? My character should show that I have completed the quest for the belt, and I have the wristguards in my inventory as a turn-in.

[Lav]

I'll post this for the Gorgalok (offensive) armor set.

The belts, wrist, arms, and glvoes drop off the 2 dot bloodhooks, workers, and 3 swamp lancers.

The Legs drop of Vezilan the Prophet. Has a place holder on a 1 hour time called Ich Oracle. This is a really fun and tough fight. 4 mannable if you have a good team.

Also at the top of that mountain side (just above the orcale spawn) there is a named who has a placeholder a Herald. He throws some NASTY dots but its really fun. He drops the shoulders. Also the shoulders drop from Kilikia the Prophet, and Consort Mekulut. They are both located on the island in between the two mountain sides with 5 spawn rates ( if your EXTREMELY lucky, all 4 of thes consort spawns could be a named(and he drops a yellow dagger lvl 46)). Mistress is a PH for a named the named also drops shouders (on a 10 min spawn timer).

Boots I have seen drop from the place holder of Kilikia the Prophet, and off the Ich Mistress.

Helm has dropped of the Ich Mistress also (she is a PH for a named).

Keep in mind 90% of the names here Heal (Vezilan the Prophet heals for400,000 Hit points, 81k with Litany of enjoining casted on it).

[Zarous]

Are there any plans to revisit the artwork of the armor, you would think after all the effort and time put into getting this armor it would have a look of its own and not of armor that is already in game.

[Purplenv]

Yah, in the end I was hoping for something more unique then this:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/purplenv/FlareTotem-June27.jpg

But, I was also hoping that both my T5 bows wouldn't look like the T4 ones I had, they do.
I was hoping my T5 crafted Axe and Short Sword wouldn't have rehashed low tier graphics, they do.

Myself standing next to a Shaman in crafted T5 (some heroic), and we look exactly the same.

I really hope people aren't getting attached to their current looks, with T5 items, as its pretty clear there will be an art patch that "re-tiers" the current art, and adds new stuff in the future.

I do hope the swamp sets get some unique graphics specifically. Maybe only once you've upgraded to heroic, but as a SET, they should deffinately give the player the ability to look unique and co-ordinated.

[Arglaar]

Yah, in the end I was hoping for something more unique then this:

But, I was also hoping that both my T5 boes wouldn't look like the T4 ones I had, they do.
I was hoping my T5 crafted Axe and Short Sword wouldn't have rehashed low tier graphics, they do.

Myself standing next to a Shaman in crafted T5 (some heroic), and we look exactly the same.

I really hope people aren't getting attached to their current looks, with T5 items, as its pretty clear there will be an art patch that "re-tiers" the current art, and adds new stuff in the future.

I do hope the swamp sets get some unique graphics specifically. Maybe only once you've upgraded to heroic, but as a SET, they should deffinately give the player the ability to look unique and co-ordinated.


So, am I gathering from your post, the breastplate is now available in game?

[Purplenv]

So, am I gathering from your post, the breastplate is now available in game?

Nah, its not.

Thats not the Flare Totem BP.
That is the Swamp Leather legs, and the Swamp Leather Shoulders though.
Upgrading to Flare Totem, as long as it follows the trend that is consistent with the heavy and the light (because the T6 rare mats are WAY easier to get at this point) the graphic doesn't change.
That IS the Hegnerian BP, which matches the Swamp Leather pieces.

My guild is currently in a Swamp armour upgrade spree.
We have multiple people with upgraded light legs, and shoulders.
Multiple people with the upgraded heavy, some Ichi, some Gorg.
All stating that the armour uses pre-existing graphics.

BP's are not in game yet, for any faction, so you can take my picture for what it is, and hope for better, but I'm confident, that unless an art patch hits with the next patch, the Flare Totem BP will use this graphic as well.

[Silueen]

Anyone had any luck getting fungal arcane bulbs? It is the last item I need for my pants. I had heard they come from the mnalus menders so I have been soloing a few of them that spawn outside the dungeon, but I have only gotten the undamaged fungal fibers from them.

[Purplenv]

Yep, we get the Fungal Arcane Bulb's from the Menders. They can also drop from the Spore Priests inside.

According to curse, the Undamaged Fungal Fibre is twice as common to drop, so not surprised that you did end up with these.

If you have your Storm Particles, trust me, the hard part is done, and its only a matter of time till a Mender drops a bulb, and they were much more common for me, then the NSP's.

[Silueen]

Yep, we get the Fungal Arcane Bulb's from the Menders. They can also drop from the Spore Priests inside.

According to curse, the Undamaged Fungal Fibre is twice as common to drop, so not surprised that you did end up with these.

If you have your Storm Particles, trust me, the hard part is done, and its only a matter of time till a Mender drops a bulb, and they were much more common for me, then the NSP's.


Yeah, I have killed over 70 of the menders so far, I was lucky and got my 3 storm particles in about 2 hours this morning.

[Nikantor]

Yeah, I have killed over 70 of the menders so far, I was lucky and got my 3 storm particles in about 2 hours this morning.

If you clear the priests around the base of the pillar in the spore chamber 2/3 times you will get at least 1 Fungal Arcane bulb.

[rordell]

Yeah, I have killed over 70 of the menders so far, I was lucky and got my 3 storm particles in about 2 hours this morning.

wtf were you doing to get 3 NSP in 2 hrs? fill me in please.

[Purplenv]

wtf were you doing to get 3 NSP in 2 hrs? fill me in please.

heh,

I got 2 in 15 minutes before work, on back to back mobs one morning.
A few of my guild mates have also seen the back-to-back drops, but usually following that, there is a substatial decrease to ballance out the odds.

Its all a matter of getting the kills in, as quickly, and efficiently as possible.
As a 50 Ranger I can solo all the blue mobs, (except Treering) and be ready for the respawn back at the first location.
If there is no competition, this can get the job done fairly quickly.

[Kayzar]

have a question about gorg legs... been camping the named for the past 10 days atleast, its a rare spawn and even rarer drop... just found out about the other leg droper in ichta called warleader but saw him only once in the past few days... any idea whats the spawn timer on warleader or/and if he have a ph somehwere else to trigger him? thanks

[stragz]

I've found another bug related to this issue... I have /bugged it in game.

Night before last, I completed my Forest Essence Belt.
I Brought up my Assembly tab, clicked on the Serene Leaf Belt recipe and clicked the Begin button (I had the upgrade components already).
The timer bar moved across my screen and I was presented with a loot window after it completed.
The loot window contained Serene Leaf WRISTGUARDS.

Now I have the ability to make 2 sets of Serene Leaf Wristguards (I already finished my Forest Essence Wrists but couldn't upgrade thanks to the broken recipe) and I am out the Belt.

Would it be possible for you to give quest giver (Telnia) the ability to switch out the incorrect assembly reward for the correct one? My character should show that I have completed the quest for the belt, and I have the wristguards in my inventory as a turn-in.

Ive experienced the same thing with the Gorgolak Medium Healer armor (Swamp Shaman). I assembled a belt and got a 2nd pair or wristguards =( Now im sad because finding the belt is about as hard as the leggings and i already had to get 2, since i needed a belt to assemble the bracers in the first place. Plus i lost a fang in the process aswell.

http://vgplayers.station.sony.com/items.vm?report=search&query=swamp%20shaman#results as you can see no one ever discovered the belt since its technically not in-game yet.

Can you confirm these will be fixed in the next push?

[Purplenv]

Updating my pic. (included item links for all the visible pieces that I am wearing) (Woops missed the belt link. That is the Flare Totem belt.)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/purplenv/FlareTotem-July2.jpg

Color's are totally messed up.
Finished Flare Totem pieces are Purple, Blue and Red.
I don't really care what color they go to, but they really should co-ordinate, since they are a "set".

Shoulders won't be upgraded until after the Supple fix patch, and same with the GP.

(Heg BP included again as it shows the style, and is just the only BP I have)

[Errid]

does anyone have a screenshot of the heavy tank armor from any faction. They all seem really good and at this point it could be a deciding factor.

[Warsongs]

Color's are totally messed up.


Purple Boots make me cringe I hope they will take a look at the armor as a whole and make it look better.

[Down]

Here is a screenshot of the Impervious Chitin Armors (minus the BP that i haven't finished yet).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/J_eje/ScreenShot_0.jpg

[Vassago]

this is heroic flor version minus bp /boots http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k262/dragon_bloodlust/?action=view&current=ScreenShot_00015-1.jpg

[Insomnic]

Here is my setup in Medium Healer Ichtakhta armor:

http://www.insomnic.net/z06/t5 heroic armor.jpg

http://www.insomnic.net/z06/t5 heroic armor 2.jpg

WTF is up with the Green boots and the light brown gloves, doesn't match with the Brown and baby blue armor theme. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Also shoulders are not the same shade of blue... they seem more silver.

And can we PLEASE get some glove art... tired of the no texture colored mittens. Have had purple, light brown, black, etc..

[Seven_PRX]

Guys, seriously, who the hell cares how it looks? Better first fix all the bugs related to the armor, and implement all pieces. Perhaps then they can look at the art, but I think there are more important things than the graphics of some armor pieces.

[Purplenv]

They can get it right for heavy. (Just look at Down's pic, all nice and matching), but when it comes to medium, since our gloves and boots are just generic huge ass mittens, and boots twice the girth of your leg, we get shafted, because they can't even match the random shade/color they skin them with.

There is not one medium set of boots, or gloves that have a unique graphic.
I have not experienced one offensive fighter pair of gloves, that actually allow you to see your bracers.

I'm not saying it is more important then getting other bugs fixed that are preventing people from even acquiring their gear/upgrading it, but it is damn annoying to get a "set" of gear, and be as multi-ocolored as a rainbow.

All that Insomnic and I are saying, is that it requires attention, not that it requires attention first.

[renaux]

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z176/renaux/ScreenShot_00007.jpg

[Seven_PRX]

Renaux,

How did you get the breastplate when it's not in-game yet?

-7

[renaux]

Renaux,

How did you get the breastplate when it's not in-game yet?

-7

from a gm.. i know it may seem lame but all i did was ask.....

[Insomnic]

Guys, seriously, who the hell cares how it looks? Better first fix all the bugs related to the armor, and implement all pieces. Perhaps then they can look at the art, but I think there are more important things than the graphics of some armor pieces.

You do realize that there is more than 1 person still working on Vanguard. And that they have different job descriptions. These posts was to let them know that the artwork has problems too.

And I do care how it looks. You are right that they "need to fix all the bugs related to the armor, and implement all the pieces".... but the artist is not the one that will be doing that.

[Solid]

from a gm.. i know it may seem lame but all i did was ask.....

WTF

What do you mean you just asked, what type of BS is this, GM's doing personal favours? This is getting close to the last straw for me, GM's wont help with some real problems yet you "just ask" for a breastplate and they give it to you?

or did you lie and say that somehting happened to your last one?

This needs to be looked into, and how do you have the Hegnerian Cloak since the quest doesnt update?

[renaux]

WTF

What do you mean you just asked, what type of BS is this, GM's doing personal favours? This is getting close to the last straw for me, GM's wont help with some real problems yet you "just ask" for a breastplate and they give it to you?

or did you lie and say that somehting happened to your last one?

This needs to be looked into, and how do you have the Hegnerian Cloak since the quest doesnt update?


ok when the armor stuff got started i petitioned and told the gm i had been killing lord faladrian ..geez i dont know how many times and he never dropped the bp. so after a long conversation i ended up with it...but this was lie 2-3 weeks ago...also i got the cape from a gm also.... a group petitioned it earlier the day we killed heg. and he stayed around to see if the qst was updating in our logs,.. since it didnt he gave us the cloaks for completeing the qst..and this was the day after the patch

[Solid]

ok when the armor stuff got started i petitioned and told the gm i had been killing lord faladrian ..geez i dont know how many times and he never dropped the bp. so after a long conversation i ended up with it...but this was lie 2-3 weeks ago...also i got the cape from a gm also.... a group petitioned it earlier the day we killed heg. and he stayed around to see if the qst was updating in our logs,.. since it didnt he gave us the cloaks for completeing the qst..and this was the day after the patch

GM's normally just take players words for it? who said hes the one that will drop the BP, its likely but since it doesnt drop no one knows for sure, its total crap that the GM gave you the BP because you thought it should have dropped from him. They better do somehting about this or give everyone a free BP for killing Lord Faladrian, sounds to me like you were chancing your luck. Do you usually go crying to the GM's for everything? most of us realised that it probably doesnt drop, not go running to a GM claiming he owes us a BP.

What a joke, seems the GM's playing favourites with you, this game is just going from bad to worse.

[renaux]

well the bp is suppose to drop from him....yeah you might say i was trying my luck ..just tired of fighting a mob when its suppose to drop and it didnt ...but like i said that was several weeks ago before a post was even out to say that the bp wasnt implemented yet...i guess i would be disgruntled also if i didnt have the bp...;)

[renaux]

It would seem that the armor component that drops off the factional leaders was not properly attached, so I went ahead and attached them yesterday as well as fixing a couple other minor bugs.

The changes to the upgraded breastplates is almost(TM) complete and should hopefully have a bit of a sneak peak for you later today on that - then I'll be able to bang out the other random issues with the area and ya'll should be set then!

Here's the changes that I made toward the end of the day yesterday (note that these changes are not on live servers yet):


Gorgalog Swamp – Serene Leaf armor will now correctly display as “Serene Leaf” within the assembly recipes window instead of “Fae Blessed”.
Gorgalog Swamp - Serene Leaf Wristguards now correctly require Forest Essence Wristguards within the assembly recipe.
Gorgalog Swamp - Swamp Shaman Wristguards now correctly require Patchwork Chitin Wristguards within the assembly recipe.
Gorgalog Swamp – Lord Faladrian of the Flordiel civilization will now drop the chest-armor components required with the Ichtakhtan civilization.
Gorgalog Swamp – Tishra of the Gorgalok civilization will now drop the chest-armor components required with the Flordiel civilization.
Gorgalog Swamp – Queen Vixxaeva of the Ichtakhta civilization will now drop the chest-armor components required with the Gorgalok civilization.


there you go..it might would help if you read a little ..dont get your panties in twirl ..i just asked and got lucky ..plain and simple

[renaux]

i really wouldnt be to worried about this armor..now that i have spent alot of time getting the components and finalizing them ...they are talking about raid gear now....hopefully for those of us who have the faction armors will just need to do a qst per piece to upgrade them to legendary and that will be our raid gear..but wishful thinking:D

[Purplenv]

i really wouldnt be to worried about this armor..now that i have spent alot of time getting the components and finalizing them ...they are talking about raid gear now....hopefully for those of us who have the faction armors will just need to do a qst per piece to upgrade them to legendary and that will be our raid gear..but wishful thinking:D

Heh, its not that hard to get.

All but roughly 6-8 single item drops, out of everything you need, can't be solo'd by many classes.

NSP's - Solo
Fungal Fibre - Solo
Gorg Hide/Pulp/Fragments - Solo
Warped/Fargmented Wind Essence - Solo
Patterns for Belt, Gloves, Underlay, Wrists, all solo. (lots of kills due to the random loot tables, but they are solo)
Some shoulder and leg patterns are also solo. (Some aren't soloable)
Residual Chaos Energy - Solo.

Then all you need is a 46+ crafter of the proper type. All be it, not an easy task for some, it can be easily accomplished by others. (The upgrade process for me was the easiest step of them all)

I don't think these pieces will every upgrade further, to legendary.
A full legendary suit would just be to much from a single source. Regardless of the last upgrade step.

[renaux]

Heh, its not that hard to get.

All but roughly 6-8 single item drops, out of everything you need, can't be solo'd by many classes.

NSP's - Solo
Fungal Fibre - Solo
Gorg Hide/Pulp/Fragments - Solo
Warped/Fargmented Wind Essence - Solo
Patterns for Belt, Gloves, Underlay, Wrists, all solo. (lots of kills due to the random loot tables, but they are solo)
Some shoulder and leg patterns are also solo. (Some aren't soloable)
Residual Chaos Energy - Solo.

Then all you need is a 46+ crafter of the proper type. All be it, not an easy task for some, it can be easily accomplished by others. (The upgrade process for me was the easiest step of them all)

I don't think these pieces will every upgrade further, to legendary.
A full legendary suit would just be to much from a single source. Regardless of the last upgrade step.


yes i agree that the items i got from soloing but it did take a little while to complete..and see the itch stuff doesnt have all the items in game yet...bp, belt and bracers ..but theres going to be raid gear or at least thats what i read from some dev...how much better will it be than this??? just an idea to bump them up one more to legendary then they would need to implement "raid" gear .. hopefully they will also change the look of our armors..give it the unique look

[Solid]

yes i agree that the items i got from soloing but it did take a little while to complete..and see the itch stuff doesnt have all the items in game yet...bp, belt and bracers ..but theres going to be raid gear or at least thats what i read from some dev...how much better will it be than this??? just an idea to bump them up one more to legendary then they would need to implement "raid" gear .. hopefully they will also change the look of our armors..give it the unique look

Well great, since its policy to hand out the BPs, i will go ask for mine.

Since they gave you yours they have to give me mine since otherwise that would be favouritsm which just isnt on. Since we all pay the same amount each month one player shouldnt get something over an other and if they dont give me mine they better take away yours. Sorry but its that simple.

[renaux]

well good luck on that and its not policy dont know where you get that from...no matter how much you beg and plea you wont get one...alot of ppl on my server have tried and i was one of the first to argue with the fact that the bp's werent dropping ..and second they dont have to give you anything this was also before sony acquired vanguard...and i have never seen someone so digruntled over an item ..omg and the chance of them taking it away...sureee

[Solid]

well good luck on that and its not policy dont know where you get that from...no matter how much you beg and plea you wont get one...alot of ppl on my server have tried and i was one of the first to argue with the fact that the bp's werent dropping ..and second they dont have to give you anything this was also before sony acquired vanguard...and i have never seen someone so digruntled over an item ..omg and the chance of them taking it away...sureee

so why are you so special you get oen and no one else? we all pay the same amount each month, its got to be policy or are you just saying GM's can do what they like based of how they are feeling that day, how much they like you? thats BS, if they do it for one they do it for all simple. If they made a mistake and no one should have gotten it, they remove your simple.

Otherwise they are treading dangerous ground where GMs play favourites and you dont expect other players to get disgruntled by it? What planet do you live on, Planet Renaux where only he deserves anything and should get whatever he wants but no one else should?

[Solid]

Well you might be in luck since you are saying it was a "Sigil" GM and not an "SOE" GM, but the simple fact is if they do one thing for one player and another was in exactly the same situation, both should be treated the same way. You are not special and that GM is not special.

[renaux]

so why are you so special you get oen and no one else? we all pay the same amount each month, its got to be policy or are you just saying GM's can do what they like based of how they are feeling that day, how much they like you? thats BS, if they do it for one they do it for all simple. If they made a mistake and no one should have gotten it, they remove your simple.

Otherwise they are treading dangerous ground where GMs play favourites and you dont expect other players to get disgruntled by it? What planet do you live on, Planet Renaux where only he deserves anything and should get whatever he wants but no one else should?

what i imagine what happened is that i got lucky...that gm got in trouble and they start a policy that says they werent going to hand anything out after our group got our cloaks. which was after the bp.i understand your frustration it goes the same for the hegnarians cloak.. there are only 12 in our server and thats it ...the gm's wont give any1 else stuff until the patch is out..which is what i was told from someone trying to get the bp also as well as the cloak.. its not that it was a mistake ..same as cloak a gm appeared when we defeated to see if the lord was dropping the bp...he was going to hand out one for our frustration and we rolled i was highest so i got bp...after that he told us there wont be anymore handouts due to the mob is being fixed now and told the rest of the guys in the guild that they would have to wait till the patch....its not the fact that gm's were playing favorites ...we were just in the right place at the right time..plain and simple..i totally agree that you should get your items just like every1 else who plays .....i was kind of upset that they could only give 1 bp..i thought that the whole group should have gotten one...but we rolled ..soo i dont know what else to tell you ..hope that helps a little

[renaux]

Well you might be in luck since you are saying it was a "Sigil" GM and not an "SOE" GM, but the simple fact is if they do one thing for one player and another was in exactly the same situation, both should be treated the same way. You are not special and that GM is not special.

i dont know if that made a difference ...but the game at the time was going through that aquisition (sp*) i know i'm not special...just your everyday game player who just got lucky....the patch will be out this week or next week and every1 will have thier bp's then

[Solid]

i dont know if that made a difference ...but the game at the time was going through that aquisition (sp*) i know i'm not special...just your everyday game player who just got lucky....the patch will be out this week or next week and every1 will have thier bp's then

Well that seems a little more reasonable, you should have stated before that the GM only gave 1 out between a group and not make it sound like you complained and you got one but no one else will.

Your not the only one who tried to get the breatplate then, just you happened to be the one who /petitioned it instead of /bug it.

To be honest i dont know what type of reaction you were hoping to get by posting the BP picture in the first place, you should have just kept it quite and enjoyed your breastplate

The sooner they get these in for the rest of us the better, its the only piece i am waiting for, and supple hide, its annoying to see that every other armor class can upgrade their legs and shoulders yet i cant, no way i can afford to pay for a supple hide from a bugged WO, hardly anyone will sell them anyway. I was going to look for those bugged mobs a guild was farming for pristine and supple but that would just be me exploiting also, not worth it.

Just so you know i am not frustrated at not having my breastplate and you having your, i get angry when GM's play favourits, no matter whats involved, wether it affects me or not. Simply we should all be equal, the GM/s should have guidelines and policies to work to that goes for every player and not just those they like or how they are feeling that day, its unprofessional and is bound to cause trouble.

[renaux]

i just didnt think that it would cause a commotion like that ..i wasnt trying to start anything by posting it... i still havent gotten my belt and bracers due to the fact that they arent ingame also..but also the game is losing alot of ppl due to fact of not enough game content ....and broken promises ...who knows the future of this game....

[Insomnic]

i just didnt think that it would cause a commotion like that ..i wasnt trying to start anything by posting it... i still havent gotten my belt and bracers due to the fact that they arent ingame also..but also the game is losing alot of ppl due to fact of not enough game content ....and broken promises ...who knows the future of this game....

First off let me be the first to say congrats on getting the BP and cloak. You used a resource (/petition) and some skill in getting the GM to give you the BP pattern so you could complete the upgrade. And the same skill coercing a GM to update your Hegnerian Defeated quest...

But don't try to use the same technique on us, and say you had been farming Lord Faladrian for "weeks"... and "a Sigil GM was the one who gave you the BP pattern" pre patch...

You got the BP pattern on 6/18, and lord Faladrian was introduced into the game on 6/14. So atmost you could have farmed him for 4 days... not "weeks"...

Either way grats... time to move on, there are better BP in game anyways.

[Vassago]

i dont get it , it was like the same day or next , that everyone on my server knew they wernt dropping the bp's and also heg cloak quest wasnt updating also read it on here shortly after, so 4 days later the gm still gave it up , oh well kinda glad sony took over now.ya posted here on the 14th heg defeated no updates, still looking for the first bp post but everyone knew the first day

[Mindful]

Well great, since its policy to hand out the BPs, i will go ask for mine.

Since they gave you yours they have to give me mine since otherwise that would be favouritsm which just isnt on. Since we all pay the same amount each month one player shouldnt get something over an other and if they dont give me mine they better take away yours. Sorry but its that simple.

Guys the funny thing is renaux is the biggest scumbag ón the server. Its funny how slimeballs always get the best of it? He has been in about 10 guilds he once left a guild that I was in and threw a fit because he couldn't get a group. Biggest baby and scumbag around.

[raiders7]

Patch is on his way on servers.. and no words about all missing armor pieces etc...

Please don't tell me that this patch doesn't fixe all missing BP etc...

Hope itl'l also fixe the annoying "no line of sigh/too far away" bug that any tank has in the swamp dungeon... it's nearly impossible to fight any mobs as soon as u have the agro.

I cross fingers...

Later

[renaux]

Guys the funny thing is renaux is the biggest scumbag ón the server. Its funny how slimeballs always get the best of it? He has been in about 10 guilds he once left a guild that I was in and threw a fit because he couldn't get a group. Biggest baby and scumbag around.

thats right..i'm the biggest scumbag:D ...it sucks when guilds have their own click and u just dont fit in nor do they really want you in their guild ...most guilds are in it for the numbers .....yeah i bounced from guilds , buts it not like i'm joining a guild and getting items and then bouncing..just moving around to see where i fit in with the rest of the crybabies....take it easy :)

[Down]

Here's a lil trick for the LoS issues in Rumug [godlike coding as usual], whoever having aggro can just jump then walk back a foot or two, it will set the mob at a correct place for you to hit him.
It works well inside the dungeon, assuming that the floor is very close or far from the ground, if it's at mid distance you'll end up stucking the mob inside the floor out of range for you (if the floor isn't high, you will stuck him too but you will be able to hit him well).
Hope it helps, it stopped to bother me as soon as i found this.

[kcxiv]

thats right..i'm the biggest scumbag:D ...it sucks when guilds have their own click and u just dont fit in nor do they really want you in their guild ...most guilds are in it for the numbers .....yeah i bounced from guilds , buts it not like i'm joining a guild and getting items and then bouncing..just moving around to see where i fit in with the rest of the crybabies....take it easy :)the thing about it is, you ruin a reputation that way. I dont know you. I dont know what you have or have not done. So i am not here trying to judge you. This is all i have learned from my almost 7 years of MMO experiences. Also it doesnt matter what guild you join, they all have click's.

[raiders7]

Here's a lil trick for the LoS issues in Rumug [godlike coding as usual], whoever having aggro can just jump then walk back a foot or two, it will set the mob at a correct place for you to hit him.
It works well inside the dungeon, assuming that the floor is very close or far from the ground, if it's at mid distance you'll end up stucking the mob inside the floor out of range for you (if the floor isn't high, you will stuck him too but you will be able to hit him well).
Hope it helps, it stopped to bother me as soon as i found this.

Thanks for your hint.. I'll try it.

PS : if anyone else has some other solution to share... do not hesitate :)

[renaux]

the thing about it is, you ruin a reputation that way. I dont know you. I dont know what you have or have not done. So i am not here trying to judge you. This is all i have learned from my almost 7 years of MMO experiences. Also it doesnt matter what guild you join, they all have click's.

well yes i am as new as they come to mmo's all i am looking for is a group of guys to which i fit in... i have found that now but i still dont understand why all the discontent...but every1 has an opinion ...i have never done or said anything to mindful or his guild but ...ohh well , to each his own

[Mindful]

well yes i am as new as they come to mmo's all i am looking for is a group of guys to which i fit in... i have found that now but i still dont understand why all the discontent...but every1 has an opinion ...i have never done or said anything to mindful or his guild but ...ohh well , to each his own

Renaux

Aside from being a slimeball, Renaux does not know what a capitalized sentence is.

[Solid]

Updating my pic. (included item links for all the visible pieces that I am wearing) (Woops missed the belt link. That is the Flare Totem belt.)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/purplenv/FlareTotem-July2.jpg

Color's are totally messed up.
Finished Flare Totem pieces are Purple, Blue and Red.
I don't really care what color they go to, but they really should co-ordinate, since they are a "set".

Shoulders won't be upgraded until after the Supple fix patch, and same with the GP.

(Heg BP included again as it shows the style, and is just the only BP I have)

All that grinding for Flare Totem armor and its gonna look sh*t (sorry but its the only word i can find to discribe it)

That color scheme is abismal even if it did match, i dont want sky blue and yellow at all thank you very much.

Also the Hegnarian BP of defiance wont match either, unlike the caster Hegnerian BP which does (has the same terrible sky blue/yellow as the caster med armor and regretfully melee offensive)

Come on Devs get it together, you think you can just put out any old cobblers and we will buy it? Dropped and crafted is probably better than this armor you have to grind you butt off to get and it doesnt even look good. Please give us unlucky players (with drops and rolls on the dropped loot) something, especially since we have to put alot more effort in than those that get lucky or buy their items.

[Solid]

BTW Purplenv i dont want to know how much you spent on a supple hide or the made upgrade to make those Flare Totem Leggings.

[Tokimasa]

Well .... afer this patch, still no :
- gloves quest for ichtakhta medium melee (monk)
- heroic upgrade for med melee ichtakhta (monk) (still this impossible receipe), though you said it was fixed, Tsudanosh
- after that i didnt check if bracer belt were droping (for ichtakhta armor quests), tired of farming for nothing. But i bet they still don't drop.
- and i guess the bp pattern doesnt drop (hope i am wrong)

It is now a very long time these bug have been announced, reported, etc .... what now ? Another 3 weeks waiting for something maybe fixed ? Ooo no, in around that it will be the merge. Well maybe one day ....

[raiders7]

arf !! great news.. nothing changed in this area then...

BTW, I've read that the armor upgrade ingredient are :

- True Silver Ore
- Wyrmsteel Ore.T5/T6 Rares

Have you ever found any chunk, ore, rock to harvest of this Wyrmsteel Ore ???
Where ???

Thanks in advance,

Later

[Purplenv]

BTW Purplenv i dont want to know how much you spent on a supple hide or the made upgrade to make those Flare Totem Leggings.

Being a generally helpfull, and considerate member of a guild that is active both in the adventuring sphere, as well as the crafting sphere can go a long way.

(I'm hoping to have the shoulders upgraded by the end of the weekend. I will post an updated pic then.)

---------------------------

As far as co-ordination goes, yes, the art team needs to step things up a bit for this stuff.

I recently saw the full set of medium fighter armour from Afrit, and I must say, that set looks Awesome in comparison.
The bracers are even visible, and integral in completing the look. (a first that I had seen EVER for medium fighter gear).
The BP, Shoulders, Legs, and Bracers created a total set that is an awesome appearance.

The problem... the gear is useless crap.

I only saw the set in person, because I was burning bags to bump up my faction. (I'll post a screen shot later when I am home from work, as I doubt many people have seen this set all in one place).

So much time/art wasted on useless/crap blue armour, while lvl 50 heroic gear gets rehashed T3 graphics.

[renaux]

arf !! great news.. nothing changed in this area then...

BTW, I've read that the armor upgrade ingredient are :

- True Silver Ore
- Wyrmsteel Ore.T5/T6 Rares

Have you ever found any chunk, ore, rock to harvest of this Wyrmsteel Ore ???
Where ???

Thanks in advance,

Later

you can get wyrmsteel at the shimmering sands in qalia...south of rhaz inkur

[raiders7]

Thanks mate !!

[Purplenv]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/purplenv/FLARE-VS-VAR.jpg

Upgraded the shoulders to this awesome treat...

Took off all gloves, (in the Flare Totem pic) because we already know the Flare Totem are blood read, and, we atleast see that the bracers are matched to the legs....

Compare that retarded looking "SET" to the Var Empowered set in the opposite image. Everything down the to boots matches. The gloves are even the hand sized ones, so that you can see the cool bracers too.
This is what a set should look like (regardless of wether you like that particular style or not, the facking thing should atleast match).

There, thats what all of the people questing for Flare Totem get to look forward too. but, atleast we can upgrade, where the Ichi can not, and they can't get two of the items at all, that we can.

[Synn]

Well .... afer this patch, still no :
- gloves quest for ichtakhta medium melee (monk)
- heroic upgrade for med melee ichtakhta (monk) (still this impossible receipe), though you said it was fixed, Tsudanosh
- after that i didnt check if bracer belt were droping (for ichtakhta armor quests), tired of farming for nothing. But i bet they still don't drop.
- and i guess the bp pattern doesnt drop (hope i am wrong)

It is now a very long time these bug have been announced, reported, etc .... what now ? Another 3 weeks waiting for something maybe fixed ? Ooo no, in around that it will be the merge. Well maybe one day ....


Splintered Bark Gloves drop. A bard in my guild got them.

[Tokimasa]

Thank you Synn, but, i know that the gloves drop, i have them too.
The problem is that the npc does NOT give the gloves QUEST :)

[myris]

no ich plate bracers or belts in game...still

i dont understand why it wasnt implemented when you had clearly fixed it or so you said

Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkey
So Mr Tsudanosh sir,

Can you please confirm for sure whether the Ichtakhta bracers AND waist items for the Light ("Formed Leaf"), 2 medium armour sets ("Treated Sap" and "Splintered Bark") and heavy armour set ("Hardened Wood") are actually in the game?

This issue seems to be skirted round every time its mentioned.

If they are indeed missing, do we have an ETA on when they'll be introduced?

Not skirting around it - just haven't had the time to look at the data while working on the other issues. I looked at this data earlier this morning and modified a good chunk of NPCs to be able to drop those components so they should become much more readily available!


so my question is after waiting weeks for a patch for this to go live, why in gods name didnt it

I think its screwed up that you change the atonement quest so that you no longer automatically recieve the ankh, yet you cant fix the heg cloak quest or put in my damn ich pieces

[Pudsley]

no ich plate bracers or belts in game...still

i dont understand why it wasnt implemented when you had clearly fixed it or so you said

Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkey
So Mr Tsudanosh sir,

Can you please confirm for sure whether the Ichtakhta bracers AND waist items for the Light ("Formed Leaf"), 2 medium armour sets ("Treated Sap" and "Splintered Bark") and heavy armour set ("Hardened Wood") are actually in the game?

This issue seems to be skirted round every time its mentioned.

If they are indeed missing, do we have an ETA on when they'll be introduced?

Not skirting around it - just haven't had the time to look at the data while working on the other issues. I looked at this data earlier this morning and modified a good chunk of NPCs to be able to drop those components so they should become much more readily available!


so my question is after waiting weeks for a patch for this to go live, why in gods name didnt it

I think its screwed up that you change the atonement quest so that you no longer automatically recieve the ankh, yet you cant fix the heg cloak quest or put in my damn ich pieces

My guess is they are waiting to package it in with a Game Update to make it look more impressive, personally it's dissapointing to see such a long delay on such a simple fecking thing, an alteration to a couple of loot tables, that apparantly has already been made.

[Jhavlin]

Ok, couple things have to be said here.

First off, Tsud I compliment you on your persistence and dedication to the community to get this all working correctly here, despite the turmoil of the SoE take over and the effect that probably had on your life, both professional and personal.

Now onto what is what here:

1: The Heavy armor sets are nice looking, but nothing new. I imagine this is b/c the art department is getting hammered over there, but it WOULD be nice if this stuff had some independant modeling.

2. Ichi Bracers and belt STILL not in game. It's been what...like 2 and a half months?

3. Breastplates still not in game. Enough said, no need to beat a dead horse.

4. Inconsistent reward vs effort here, at least for the Ichi Heavy set.

It is both an individual and group effort to accomplish these armor pieces, upwards of 30 hours of effort (at least) to complete. Personally it took me 12hours just to get the 5 Nihilistic Storm Particles for the Shoulders and Leggins.
The odds of getting your armor type to drop are hit and miss making the acquisition of pieces even more difficult.
The farming of just the component materials like hides, Rare Metals, Fragmented Wind Essences etc etc, compounds the time investment.
The need to have a appropriately leveled and factioned crafter adds even MORE effort to the accomplishment of a set.


As such, I feel it is a bit of an understatement, to say that these pieces are still a touch lack luster. Here are a few reasons why:

The upgrade from Rare to Heroic is MARGINAL at best.
With the exception of the Bracers and the Gloves, none of these items are better then what you can get from your avg joe crafter.
Stats are quetionable. For instance, unless I am not seeing something that is coming down the pipeline, in no world is constitution a more desired stat then STR or DEX for any tank, regardless of play style. I think the vast majority of players would rather see stats on this armor adjusted to more of a balance btwn STR and CON, maybe even to the point of making them even values with each other.
It is just plain rediculous that in ONE fight (ie Hege) it is possible to acquire legs and a BP that DESTROYS the rewards from this quest line. Because of this, there is really no reason to get these pieces, that coupled with the fact that the BP drops in Rhaz Inkur are comparable if not better in some regards to the listed BP's in game now makes these items practically redundant.


Alright now that we got all that out of the way lets look at what can be done to solve these issues:

Make each piece of armor have certain faction requirements to even procure that piece, with the small pieces like bracers, belt, underlay..etc etc require less faction then the higher pieces like the Leggins and BP's. I think 15k faction just to be able to turn in the BP is a good top end number to look at.
Do another pass on the effects and stats on the armor. Increase some of the mitigation values, take a look at introducing block and parry values on the Ichi armor, dmg mods on the gorg armor, and readjust some of the attribute values. Unless Constitution is getting revamped in the near future, it is the weakest and worse stat to overload on in ANY armor.
Make it so the upgrade from Rare to Heroic on the items has a definitive and marked improvement. This trash with +5 or 6 mitigation value and +1 or 2 attribute points is laughable. Perhaps the solution is to make the lower pieces like the bracers, belt, boots, etc etc become a level 51 or 52 piece of armor, and the big pieces like the chest and legs and shoulders be level 52 or 53. As it stands now there is almost no reason to go through the additional effort to upgrade this stuff to heroic. and certainly no reason to go after it in lieu of other randrom dropped or crafted armors in the game.
From a player standpoint in all but the most extreme circumstances, adding raw number values like +dmg, block, miti, crit etc is far better then + attributes.
Why limit yourself to melee Mitigation? Make it shine, make it blank slate mitigation so it affects all incoming damage. This would be a huge step in the right direction.


In closing, I think that the armor sets out here are a great addition to the game and gives players something to spend some good time on acquiring. Staying busy and the possibilities to excel are key in maintaining a healthy server population. I'd like to see more of this type thing myself as it has both solo and group components, which is a great design mechanic that meshes the two very well. With a few adjustments and a couple weeks of solid work, these faction sets and quests can really really shine. I would love to see them do so. For all of you whom have read this post I thank you for your time and consideration and welcome your feedback.

-J

[Wulfgang]

I need some guidance...

I have basically leveled from 47-49 in Flordiel killing off gorgalock scouts farming for the solid bone bracer. I have just about every drop on the loot table except for the solid bone bracer. Is the bracer in the game? Or is the damm thing dropping in another zone? After 1002 kills the tally is zero for the armor piece.

[Vassago]

its prob like itch bracers not in game yet or just really sucky drop rate, i havnt gotten bracers yet, but i been trying to get boots, killed over 1000 mobs and no boots yet yay

[myris]

its prob like itch bracers not in game yet or just really sucky drop rate, i havnt gotten bracers yet, but i been trying to get boots, killed over 1000 mobs and no boots yet yay

the solid bone bracer is in the game, i bought one the other day, assuming i could atone and get it since the ich bracer still isnt in, only to find out that you now have to kill king mnal to attone now =P...still cant find the damn queen!

[Wulfgang]

No offence Myris, your profile is blanked out. Sorry I am the kinda person that I will beleive it when I see it.

[Solid]

No offence Myris, your profile is blanked out. Sorry I am the kinda person that I will beleive it when I see it.

i looted a solid bone bracer and sold it on the broker, maybe it was myris who bought it lol, cant have done we are different severs :)

I didnt get the solid bone bracer in flordiel, it was from a gorg in vsurog moore, probably a sentry or possibly a watcher. That said on curse they have been looted by a player at some point also off gorg scouts, velok bloodwings and velok adults. gl. This wasnt that long ago but before that last disappointing patch.

[Solid]

Being a generally helpfull, and considerate member of a guild that is active both in the adventuring sphere, as well as the crafting sphere can go a long way.

(I'm hoping to have the shoulders upgraded by the end of the weekend. I will post an updated pic then.)

---------------------------

As far as co-ordination goes, yes, the art team needs to step things up a bit for this stuff.

I recently saw the full set of medium fighter armour from Afrit, and I must say, that set looks Awesome in comparison.
The bracers are even visible, and integral in completing the look. (a first that I had seen EVER for medium fighter gear).
The BP, Shoulders, Legs, and Bracers created a total set that is an awesome appearance.

The problem... the gear is useless crap.

I only saw the set in person, because I was burning bags to bump up my faction. (I'll post a screen shot later when I am home from work, as I doubt many people have seen this set all in one place).

So much time/art wasted on useless/crap blue armour, while lvl 50 heroic gear gets rehashed T3 graphics.

lol i am active in both also, lvl 32 Leatherworker (all 3 cont). But my guild are keeping any supple hide incase they are needed for a guild hall, which i cant blame them really, the guys even been saving up his own coin for the plot (i did say i wanted to chip in but he says hes fine)

I guess you are just lucky your guild has no use for supple but to make 10% upgrades for your armor :).

I just thought because your blog shows you next to the Khal broker and Mailbox (the usual place for players to browse the broker, buy stuff and immediatly take it off the mailbox) that you had bought it. Guess thats just the area you were in when your guildy sent you the upgrade :)

[Wulfgang]

I didnt get the solid bone bracer in flordiel, it was from a gorg in vsurog moore, probably a sentry or possibly a watcher. That said on curse they have been looted by a player at some point also off gorg scouts, velok bloodwings and velok adults. gl. This wasnt that long ago but before that last disappointing patch.


Ok that was more what I was looking for.

I saw the entry on Cure for the bloodwings, and I kinda wanted to throw up the BS flag. I will try that and see what happens... Now serving #1... now serving #2...

[myris]

No offence Myris, your profile is blanked out. Sorry I am the kinda person that I will beleive it when I see it.

profile is blanked out because that what my guild wants to be, and if you had actualy read the post you would have seen that i bought it expecting to attone to flordiel only to find out that you now need to kill the mnalus king down in gorg to get the ankh, so im still on ich therefore the bracer is in my bag and not equipped

[Wulfgang]

and if you had actualy read the post you

And if you had read the patch update you wouldnt have waisted your money.

[Insomnic]

profile is blanked out because that what my guild wants to be, and if you had actualy read the post you would have seen that i bought it expecting to attone to flordiel only to find out that you now need to kill the mnalus king down in gorg to get the ankh, so im still on ich therefore the bracer is in my bag and not equipped

Attone is the wrong way to go. Just get to Elani and do some work orders. 500 faction each. :)

[myris]

Attone is the wrong way to go. Just get to Elani and do some work orders. 500 faction each. :)

lol not for a level 2 crafter hehehe

[Moru]

I've got a few questions.

I got 4 pieces of Ichta armor done, so far.
I got 13,000 something faction made.

I've heard that you can upgrade these items as a quest just like the first quest. From yellow to orange when you got 13k+ faction.
But I can't find the guy who gives these quests in Ichta...?
Anyone knows the whereabouts of this guy?

I know that you need a crafter for the 2nd uppgrade.

But where is this guy that gives the quests for the first upgrade.
I've been running up and down in Ichtakhta to try and find him.

Help plz :)

[renaux]

I've got a few questions.

I got 4 pieces of Ichta armor done, so far.
I got 13,000 something faction made.

I've heard that you can upgrade these items as a quest just like the first quest. From blue to yellow when you got 13k+ faction.
But I can't find the guy who gives these quests in Ichta...?
Anyone knows the whereabouts of this guy?

I know that you need a crafter for the 2nd uppgrade.

But where is this guy that gives the quests for the first upgrade.
I've been running up and down in Ichtakhta to try and find him.

Help plz :)


the guy who gives the qsts for armor is past the bridge then follow the road up the hill and then go left. he's the guy on the left under the tent on the right.. to upgrade the completed armor you will need the crafter to be lvl 48 and for the plate i know you will need the true silver to make the first part for the other pieces of armor and wyrmsteel for the bp,legs, and shoulders

[Purplenv]

I guess you are just lucky your guild has no use for supple but to make 10% upgrades for your armor :).


Umm, there is no other use for Supple, and I doubt VERY MUCH, that hides of any type will be used in a guild house.
Even if they are, its easy enough to just go harvest some more, and if Tsudonosh's fixes ever hit live, then it will be even easier.

Saving them for the "just in case" doesn't make a lot of sense to me, when they have clear use now, but your argument that it is only a 10% upgrade, is deffinately valid.

[Solid]

Umm, there is no other use for Supple, and I doubt VERY MUCH, that hides of any type will be used in a guild house.
Even if they are, its easy enough to just go harvest some more, and if Tsudonosh's fixes ever hit live, then it will be even easier.

Saving them for the "just in case" doesn't make a lot of sense to me, when they have clear use now, but your argument that it is only a 10% upgrade, is deffinately valid.

Easy enough to harvest some more? you mean exploiting those bugged mobs? apart from those, i and all my server was under the impression that Supple Hide only comes from bugged WOs.

btw its not my argument, its their's but i can see their point and i am happy to wait whilst Supple is in short supply.

Yeah thats how i feel why keep them when i could use them for my armor but the guild seems to think having them ready for when guild halls hit live is more important than a 10% stat increase to my armor, the swines :). I am still trying to convince them that they wont be needed but since i dont work on Vanguard they wont take my word for it :/, i will keep at em, wish me luck ^^.

If anyone knows a ligitimate way of getting supple hide through skinning please share with the rest of us. I am a Journyman Skinner (510 skinning) and i am itching to get myself some Supple (but not enough to start exploiting, i am not that desperate)

[CJN]

have a question about gorg legs... been camping the named for the past 10 days atleast, its a rare spawn and even rarer drop... just found out about the other leg droper in ichta called warleader but saw him only once in the past few days... any idea whats the spawn timer on warleader or/and if he have a ph somehwere else to trigger him? thanks

I want to know too.

[Arglaar]

If anyone knows a ligitimate way of getting supple hide through skinning please share with the rest of us. I am a Journyman Skinner (510 skinning) and i am itching to get myself some Supple (but not enough to start exploiting, i am not that desperate)

I believe level 48+ 4dot+ mobs have a chance to harvest as tier 6.

I've gotten obsidian off of the golems near Rahz, I would assume that any skinnable mobs in the area also can spawn as tier 6.

[Solid]

I believe level 48+ 4dot+ mobs have a chance to harvest as tier 6.

I've gotten obsidian off of the golems near Rahz, I would assume that any skinnable mobs in the area also can spawn as tier 6.

Yeah i guess if there is a chance to get t6 rock? off a golem (npc) there is a chance (pretty small one though if you consider how hide has been in the past) that you might be able to get t6 hide also off mobs in that range.

will give it a try atleast. Thanks for the info.

[Insomnic]

lol not for a level 2 crafter hehehe

Sure it is... all you need to do is have completed the crafting tutorial. So you know how to complete a work order and you can craft in Elani for 500 faction a pop. Lvl 2-3 should be fine.

[Purplenv]

Sure it is... all you need to do is have completed the crafting tutorial. So you know how to complete a work order and you can craft in Elani for 500 faction a pop. Lvl 2-3 should be fine.

I think outposts don't give WO's right at the start of leveling.

Do you not need to be able to do lvl 20 WO's or something like that?

Other then that, yah, Elani is quick faction, for sure.

[Arglaar]

I think outposts don't give WO's right at the start of leveling.

Do you not need to be able to do lvl 20 WO's or something like that?

Other then that, yah, Elani is quick faction, for sure.

I had it confirmed from some guildies last night that you CAN do wo's in Elani at ANY level. Just complete the tutorial quests to get your crafting skill and you're all set.

If you want to build faction, fastest way is to do single Item D's. You'll get crap rewards but you'll definitely build faction fast.

[Chaelyn]

Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but, why is the Gorgalok faction armor at such an exremely lesser of a drop rate that the other factions? Gorgalok faction Pants drop off a mob (an Ichtaktha Named) ..well.. about 3 out of 29 times of killing the named that is supposed to drop them. This is of course after killing the PH nearly 90 times, who pops once an hour. While the Flordiel mob (a Gorgalok named) drops them 70% of the time, and is up every 15 minutes. im sorry but W T F. Had i chose the Flordiel armor i would have been done by now with all the time i've spent farming for gear that doesnt drop with the Gorgalok faction. Not to mention the fact that the BP isnt in game yet, nor does the event work correctly that is supposed to give us another of the items needed for the bp.
Oh and just an FYI, the named that is supposed to drop the Pants, ..if he doesnt drop the pants he doesnt drop anything..nothing..except for a quest item for a quest that gives faction and a bit of exp.

Realy tho, if there is a DEV that reads this thread pls do something about this, the high lvls in my guild are becoming more and more frustrated and annoyed with this, and it's just camping the named for the pants and the very low drop rate on the other pieces that is getting to them, the other things (events that are broken) are something we all knwo is getting looked into.

Chaelyn
49 Rakurr Shaman
Woefeather
Immortal

[Purplenv]

There are two mobs that drop Gorg faction pants.

The commonly known one, is a pain to fight.
The uncommonly known one, is a pain to find. (PH is at another location, I think).

There are some stark differences in the spawn frequency, and the difficulty of the mobs that drop the similar slot gear. Just as there is am immense difference between the accesability of Ichi vs Flordiel vs Gorgalog.

They are all different.
You chose your poison, and if you made that choice recently at all, this information was presented to you in advance.

I do agree however that the Gorg legs are especially impossible to get, vs the shoulders which drop from every other NM in the chunk it seems.

[Chaelyn]

you cant seriously be sitting here telling me that 90+ hours of camping and killing a mob is RIGHT? you cant seriously be saying that that is how long they intended ppl to come here and camp this mob, just on this particular set of armor, the other sets are pretty much equal when it comes to the amount of time spent camping and farming to get the sets, and then you have Gorgalok with a 90+hour camp for just ONE piece, and your saying that it is right?
come on now, can we think this through just a tad?

[Purplenv]

Just think, when the queen is fixed, you can camp both at the same time.
With lev, its super easy to get that done.

If you read my last statement, I agreed that our legs are "impossible" to get, and thought I made a clear indication that some of the shoulder dropping NM's in the chunk could deffinately be changed to legs, and I don't think anyone would complain.

[Damascis]

As promised, here is a sneak peak at the exciting changes coming to the Gorgalog Swamp chest armor! Please note that these changes are not yet live and may undergo tweaks and modifications after the time of this posting =)

Why does the Fae Blessed Breastplate have better AC than the Biochitonous one? Biochitonous is supposed to be the Defensive one right? (look at the tank versions of each). I realiaze these aren't final, but wanted to point out that the cleric version of the defensive armor has less AC than the 'balanced' version while the tank version of the defensive armor has more AC than the balanced.


(Also can you talk to someone about the Graystone weapon reward choices? All 1h weapons are 56 DPS except the 1h blunt weapon which is 48...)

[Ziebann]

So I've had my swamp armor pieces now for weeks and weeks, and yet the upgrade assembly recipe is not in my assembly tab. I've relogged, gone to default UI, the works. Again, I'm sure somewhere in these 71 pages of posts someone has the same problem and possibly an answer, sadly I cannot find it. Please, for the love of all that is holy, help this incredibly bored monk-since-pre-kunark get his second, no, more like 5th wind to continue playing McQuaid's-Bane. GM's keep telling me "we will fix it in next patch" about 3 patches ago. Re-petitioned, same response...to everything...

GMs obviously can't help me, no one on my server can help me, my shrink cant help me, plz plz plz help me guys, somehow! I beg ya
:cry:

[Purplenv]

So I've had my swamp armor pieces now for weeks and weeks, and yet the upgrade assembly recipe is not in my assembly tab. I've relogged, gone to default UI, the works. Again, I'm sure somewhere in these 71 pages of posts someone has the same problem and possibly an answer, sadly I cannot find it. Please, for the love of all that is holy, help this incredibly bored monk-since-pre-kunark get his second, no, more like 5th wind to continue playing McQuaid's-Bane. GM's keep telling me "we will fix it in next patch" about 3 patches ago. Re-petitioned, same response...to everything...

GMs obviously can't help me, no one on my server can help me, my shrink cant help me, plz plz plz help me guys, somehow! I beg ya
:cry:

Did you do the collect 25 items from the emmisary NPC guy at the entrance to town.

Initially it appears to only provide faction, but a guild mate pointed out that it also unlocks the assembly of the gear.

[Ziebann]

It worked man, thank you a ton. Amazing how GMs and their supervisors couldn't have told me that. Although I guess playing the game is different from running the game, but cmon.

Again thank you a ton man

[Purplenv]

Glad to help man.

I don't know where my guild mate got the information, but I do not believe that it had been mentioned in the entire body of this thread.

For a player that is already lvl 50, so doesn't care about quest XP, and knows that grinding faction isn't required, it is really pretty easy to just skip over those quests.

[Fawks Passe]

Tsudanosh,
If you are still reading this thread, can you give us an update on when:

1) The Ichtahkta bracers and belts will be added to the loot tables (At least the medium light fighter ones don't drop)

2) The quest for splintered membranous gloves will be added to the stockpiler? The gloves do drop, but no way to do anything with them or even verify what other components are needed.

3) The upgrade recipes for Shadowmantis armor will be patched in? To make a shadowmantis underlay, the recipe still calls for "Splintered membranous underlay" and "Shadowmantis underlay". Hard to upgrade when the final result is also one of the recipe components.

Other than that, I've been having a lot of fun running through the swamp zones (maybe cause I haven't been there as long as everyone else though!)

[Ellestil]

I've got all the peices for Icth defensive plate armor except...

1. Breastplate
2. Belt
3. Bracers

I have all the mats to make them when they do get in the game, I have all the items needed to upgrade them once they are made. Basically I'm stuck waiting for some mobs to be itemized with these drops. The Breastplate I can understand if your tweaking the clicky ability, but the belt and bracers should have been in long ago. They are both the 1st tier of the armor.

So what's the time frame looking like for these items to be in game? I would pray it's before the Ancient Port Warehouse is finished, so I have some time to use the gear before it gets replaced.

[Fawks Passe]

On a side note,
To upgrade the swamp leather armor for an offensive fighter, I believe I need to obtain rare T6 skins (supple hides?). Do I need skinning over 485 (the point at which I would read a T6 book if there was one) or would it be possible to get these with any skill level, so long as it was over 400?

Or do I need maxed skinning of 500?

[Purplenv]

Need 500 (Just under 500, and boosted to 500+ with gear will activate harvesting a T6 node), and there are only 3 mobs in the game atm you can get it from.

[Fawks Passe]

Need 500 (Just under 500, and boosted to 500+ with gear will activate harvesting a T6 node), and there are only 3 mobs in the game atm you can get it from.

Roger thanks. I'm at about 420 skill now, so will take plenty more killing to reach 500.

[rordell]

Tsud,

in your opinion, at what point does it become absolutely ridiculous that all the armor pieces still arent dropping in game yet with no patch announced for when this will happen?

cmon man, this is goddamn insulting

[Fawks Passe]

Does anyone have a recommendation on where to go for Fragmented Wind Essences? I know curse says Gorgalok scouts have the best drop rate, but I have killed a ton of these while working on skinning, but have never seen a fragmented wind essence drop.

These are for tier 1 armor, yet they appear to be rarer than Nihilistic Storm Particles. I'm hoping that maybe I'm just fighting gorg scouts in the wrong area. Maybe I have to kill in Vsurog Moor rather than in Flordiel?

[Purplenv]

Does anyone have a recommendation on where to go for Fragmented Wind Essences? I know curse says Gorgalok scouts have the best drop rate, but I have killed a ton of these while working on skinning, but have never seen a fragmented wind essence drop.

These are for tier 1 armor, yet they appear to be rarer than Nihilistic Storm Particles. I'm hoping that maybe I'm just fighting gorg scouts in the wrong area. Maybe I have to kill in Vsurog Moor rather than in Flordiel?

I killed the Bloodhooks in Ichi. Just out front.
There are a number of spawns, and they are only 2 dots.
Only adverse characteristic regarding these, is their heal, if you don't get them dead fast enough.

I wouldn't go as far was saying they are more difficult to acquire the NSP's, but you will need to kill a lot of mobs to get all the ones you need.

My guild has bank on all tradable pieces, except these. Its really funny.
(Shit, we even have cores to hand out to people that haven't come to Heg. Our guilds rule however is that you need to come to one Heg battle to recieve it, and you get it at the conclusion of the fight, regardless of wether a core was dropped from that specific Hegnerian, or not. Its a pretty cool thing that we do, and will have a lot of our guildmates in heroic BP's (if they are not already, from Heg or RI) that should have some pretty cool clickies.)

[Vellek]

Over 20 kills here and only 2 cores. I am glad it is not a 100% drop, I just wish we had the similar luck as everyone else. Even though nearly all of us have Rahz chest pieces, the clickies are always really nice.

[Fawks Passe]

I killed the Bloodhooks in Ichi. Just out front.
There are a number of spawns, and they are only 2 dots.
Only adverse characteristic regarding these, is their heal, if you don't get them dead fast enough.

I wouldn't go as far was saying they are more difficult to acquire the NSP's, but you will need to kill a lot of mobs to get all the ones you need.



I'm on Ichi faction, but I can tolerate killing them for a bit. Heck maybe I'll get the Gorgalok belt and bracers that I can't get from Ichi faction.
So thanks I'll give that a try.

[Purplenv]

Over 20 kills here and only 2 cores. I am glad it is not a 100% drop, I just wish we had the similar luck as everyone else. Even though nearly all of us have Rahz chest pieces, the clickies are always really nice.

Wow. That is craptastic luck with the RNG.

We see roughly 50%, as shown on Curse, but we deffinately can go a couple kills back to back, without cores.

[Arglaar]

Does anyone have a recommendation on where to go for Fragmented Wind Essences? I know curse says Gorgalok scouts have the best drop rate, but I have killed a ton of these while working on skinning, but have never seen a fragmented wind essence drop.

These are for tier 1 armor, yet they appear to be rarer than Nihilistic Storm Particles. I'm hoping that maybe I'm just fighting gorg scouts in the wrong area. Maybe I have to kill in Vsurog Moor rather than in Flordiel?

I killed the Bloodhooks in Ichi. Just out front.
There are a number of spawns, and they are only 2 dots.
Only adverse characteristic regarding these, is their heal, if you don't get them dead fast enough.

I wouldn't go as far was saying they are more difficult to acquire the NSP's, but you will need to kill a lot of mobs to get all the ones you need.

My guild has bank on all tradable pieces, except these. Its really funny.
(Shit, we even have cores to hand out to people that haven't come to Heg. Our guilds rule however is that you need to come to one Heg battle to recieve it, and you get it at the conclusion of the fight, regardless of wether a core was dropped from that specific Hegnerian, or not. Its a pretty cool thing that we do, and will have a lot of our guildmates in heroic BP's (if they are not already, from Heg or RI) that should have some pretty cool clickies.)

Kill the 2 dot velok tads in the pools on the road in from the emmisary.
They die quick and respawn almost as fast.
If you have AE attacks, it goes even faster.

[Fawks Passe]

Kill the 2 dot velok tads in the pools on the road in from the emmisary.
They die quick and respawn almost as fast.
If you have AE attacks, it goes even faster.

No AE attacks for me. Just a simple rogue.
Curse doesn't list them as a mob, but its not a perfect database.
I'll give it a shot, thanks!

[Purplenv]

Kill the 2 dot velok tads in the pools on the road in from the emmisary.
They die quick and respawn almost as fast.
If you have AE attacks, it goes even faster.

No AE attacks for me. Just a simple rogue.
Curse doesn't list them as a mob, but its not a perfect database.
I'll give it a shot, thanks!


Hmm, Tad's, I didn't see any pools of those.
I have killed tonnes of the Velok Hatchlings in pools on the way into Gorg. city, from the emmisary, but they drop Warped Wind Essence only.

I see some "Tad"'s in the same vecinity as the Emmisary, and curse only has just over 100 kills, so anything is possible I guess.

Skinnables that drop Fragmented Wind Essence is win for me too. I'll have to check it out.

Edit: oh wow, there are a tonne of locations in Ichi, I'm guessing you may have meant the Ichi Emmisary.

[Arglaar]

Hmm, Tad's, I didn't see any pools of those.
I have killed tonnes of the Velok Hatchlings in pools on the way into Gorg. city, from the emmisary, but they drop Warped Wind Essence only.

I see some "Tad"'s in the same vecinity as the Emmisary, and curse only has just over 100 kills, so anything is possible I guess.

Skinnables that drop Fragmented Wind Essence is win for me too. I'll have to check it out.

Edit: oh wow, there are a tonne of locations in Ichi, I'm guessing you may have meant the Ichi Emmisary.

Naw.. I meant the hatchlings in the pools

Couldn't remember their exact name off the top of my head :) I just remembered they were the tadpole things in the pools.

I have gotten fragmented off them.

I've also gotten them off of the various avairies that fly around as well.

[Vellek]

Tsunadosh, if you get a chance, take a look at the medium melee Ichtakhta armor. Currently I believe it is not upgradeable. More specifically, I just completed the rare helm quest and in order to upgrade it to heroic, I need the rare helm and the heroic helm, rather than the rare helm and the crafted component. All of the armor is similarly bugged and not currently completeable. Here is a pic:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/Kerry7784/BuggedIcharmor.jpg

[Fawks Passe]

Tsunadosh, if you get a chance, take a look at the medium melee Ichtakhta armor. Currently I believe it is not upgradeable. More specifically, I just completed the rare helm quest and in order to upgrade it to heroic, I need the rare helm and the heroic helm, rather than the rare helm and the crafted component. All of the armor is similarly bugged and not currently completeable. Here is a pic:



Seriously, its getting kinda frustrating seeing the posts by Tsudanosh a full month ago saying that he fixed Ichi bracers/belt drops, and Shadowmantis recipes (among other things like the chest pieces) and they STILL are not live. Whats the deal? Why does the SOE system not permit little patches to fix this stuff? Why do we have to wait for months for them to get around to sending it live?

And I have been working on swamp armor for nowhere near as long as many people. Can't imagine how frustrated they are.

[twinparadox]

Was just curious does it take a specific crafter to make the upgrades needed for the upgrades?? i.e. Tailor for Light Armor, Leatherworker for Medium and Armor smith for Heavy?? or can any crafter do the combine once they get the recipe??

thanks

[Purplenv]

Was just curious does it take a specific crafter to make the upgrades needed for the upgrades?? i.e. Tailor for Light Armor, Leatherworker for Medium and Armor smith for Heavy?? or can any crafter do the combine once they get the recipe??

thanks

Recipes are specific, but heavy can be done my any smith, light/hides can be done with any outfitter, and artificers get the medium healer sets, and are upgraded with stone.

[Ellestil]

I hope the missing items are coming soon. Ton's of people are just waiting on the items to drop in the game, having acquired everything else needed to make them. Any news of when they are coming would be appreciated.

[Purplenv]

I hope the missing items are coming soon. Ton's of people are just waiting on the items to drop in the game, having acquired everything else needed to make them. Any news of when they are coming would be appreciated.

I'm totally not looking forward to farming 30+ BP patterns...
(Yes we have roughly that many Cores in the hands of people that will want to use them, and we get more every day that the patch isn't on live...)

With the BoE and BoP changes to dungeon loot drops in general, it should be fairly automatic that these cores will have a quest tag added. (we did however control this on our own, and only gave players who attended a Heg kill, a core. It was handed out regardless of that Heg dropping one, and if a bunch of new people came, each got one, but still, atleast they aren't purchased off the change, and being used by people that haven't even seen Heg).

Any of the Sidreth players copied over today willing to post their finding in the swamp are are appreciated. (ie Heg, BP patterns, Ichi drops, anything else that looks cool and new)

[myris]

bps and heg cloak are in game

[rordell]

bps and heg cloak are in game

some people were given them, but I can assure you the plate bp's are not dropping nor is Heg cloak mission updating.

[Purplenv]

some people were given them, but I can assure you the plate bp's are not dropping nor is Heg cloak mission updating.

I believe he meant are fixed on test.

Since he is on Sidreth, and in the same guild as Nika who posted they checked on this, on test, the other day.

This is still good news, and encouraging moving forward after GU#2.

[myris]

sorry for the confusion, they are on test, the bps have a 100% drop rate, so you get one per kill, they have the clikys posted on SV, the ichy tank one has been bumped from 750 to 900 hp, the heg event has been fixed and you need to kill them in order starting at raea or it kicks you out of the heg area, and when you kill heg, it updates the quest

[genjuuro]

Ok i am having trouble finding the Ichtaka cleric heavy, He is only offering me medium armor. Are clerics not able to get heavy?

[myris]

Ok i am having trouble finding the Ichtaka cleric heavy, He is only offering me medium armor. Are clerics not able to get heavy?

quest reward is medium, upgrades to heavy im pretty sure

[braken]

Which crafter will Clerics need to help them with their upgrade from the medium healer armor to the plate?

[blam31]

lol let ppl in on test to find the good stuff out and befor it even goes live u posting your finds these items mite not even go live and IF they do them BP names are gona be on like a 12 hour timer u think getten core from heggy was over camped and bad good luck trying to get your BP patern now that u blabed to the world

[Balouch]

So I stopped reading after 20 pages since I don't have two days to sit here and try to digest all this. Simple question, has it been announced what the upgraded BP's will have on them stats wise and activated ability? Ty.

[Ellestil]

What about Icth bracer and belts? Are they on the test server yet? Thanks for any info.

[Purplenv]

lol let ppl in on test to find the good stuff out and befor it even goes live u posting your finds these items mite not even go live and IF they do them BP names are gona be on like a 12 hour timer u think getten core from heggy was over camped and bad good luck trying to get your BP patern now that u blabed to the world

Hahaha , as if in the full patch notes its not going to say specifically that the are fixed.

We just wanted player confirmation.

You really think the spawn time is 3x that of Heg? Thats the funniest thing about what you said.

[lync]

Ok,

Where do the Shaped Forest Essences and the Embedded Forest Essences drop? or how do I go about getting them? I did a search on the site(s) relevant to this questline and have come up empty... This is the only thing I need for the upgrade to Heroic (other than the Rare piece) and am finding it a bit hard to come by if it is indeed in the game??

Any help would be appreciated :)

lync

[rordell]

Ok,

Where do the Shaped Forest Essences and the Embedded Forest Essences drop? or how do I go about getting them? I did a search on the site(s) relevant to this questline and have come up empty... This is the only thing I need for the upgrade to Heroic (other than the Rare piece) and am finding it a bit hard to come by if it is indeed in the game??

Any help would be appreciated :)

lync

I'm itch plate, so just guessing, but those are probably your crafted pieces you need to have made.

[Arglaar]

Ok,

Where do the Shaped Forest Essences and the Embedded Forest Essences drop? or how do I go about getting them? I did a search on the site(s) relevant to this questline and have come up empty... This is the only thing I need for the upgrade to Heroic (other than the Rare piece) and am finding it a bit hard to come by if it is indeed in the game??

Any help would be appreciated :)

lync

You need a crafter to make them for you.

[Purplenv]

Ok,

Where do the Shaped Forest Essences and the Embedded Forest Essences drop? or how do I go about getting them? I did a search on the site(s) relevant to this questline and have come up empty... This is the only thing I need for the upgrade to Heroic (other than the Rare piece) and am finding it a bit hard to come by if it is indeed in the game??

Any help would be appreciated :)

lync

crafted

[lync]

Ok thanks. I spoke with an Artificer (45+)and found that they are crafted (thanks everyone). I found that you need 1 Skarn and 1 Onyx for the Embedded Essences and 1 Skarn for the Shaped.

Are there any other pieces needed (other than the Rare armor pieces) and the essences?

Who is the NPC that gives the recipe?

Getting close... :)

lync

[Synn]

Ok thanks. I spoke with an Artificer (45+)and found that they are crafted (thanks everyone). I found that you need 1 Skarn and 1 Onyx for the Embedded Essences and 1 Skarn for the Shaped.

Are there any other pieces needed (other than the Rare armor pieces) and the essences?

Who is the NPC that gives the recipe?

Getting close... :)

lync

Once you gain 13k faction the Work Order NPC's in Elani will give you a quest to go to the recipe NPC for your faction. After completing the 1st tier faction quest so that your upgrade recipe will show up in your Assembly tab and getting the quest from that recipe npc you will have all your answers as to what extra ingredients are required per armor piece of your choice.

[Funkey]

What about Icth bracer and belts? Are they on the test server yet? Thanks for any info.

Can someone confirm now if the ich faction bracers and belts are now dropping in the Flordiel area now that GU2 has gone live?