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WarZephyr
05-06-2007, 11:51 PM
This thread will go away in a few minutes probably but ive just a quick question, or comment...not sure


Anyways, i created a character on each pvp server to see how many ppl were on each of them and when i went to Frengrot, and searched lvl by lvl to get exact numbers, i got less than 100. Around 85-90 ppl playing at 8:30 PM !!!!!!

Hopefully something was just wrong with the search window.

Edited: could be because of time zones, didnt think of that, but still less than 100...

Athas
05-06-2007, 11:54 PM
This thread will go away in a few minutes probably but ive just a quick question, or comment...not sure


Anyways, i created a character on each pvp server to see how many ppl were on each of them and when i went to Frengrot, and searched lvl by lvl to get exact numbers, i got less than 100. Around 85-90 ppl playing at 8:30 PM !!!!!!

Hopefully something was just wrong with the search window.

Edited: could be because of time zones, didnt think of that, but still less than 100...

Frengrot is euro pvp server isn't it? in that case there is nothing wrong with less than 100 people playing on a monday at 5:30 am.

Mangar
05-07-2007, 12:04 AM
Actually - That is still pretty low. Regardless of time zone

Unbelievable
05-07-2007, 12:05 AM
Frengrot is euro pvp server isn't it? in that case there is nothing wrong with less than 100 people playing on a monday at 5:30 am.

There's always something wrong if that's how many people are playing regardless of what time it is. The lowest pop DAoc server even now has more than that, at this time. Check the herald.

Zastapth
05-07-2007, 04:02 AM
Doesn't surprise me, it's a ghost town and the whole time everyone else is screaming against server merges this server is dead.

It's ruined the game and today because of the low population i'm cancelling my account. If speaking on a forum doesn't get noticed then maybe this will, but I doubt it. I might come back say 6 months - looking forward to ETQW which is out in a month and a half so as much as i'd love to give all my gear away it may get used again sorry folks haha!

You can't get a group, you barely see anyone, lower level items don't sell on the broker, crafters willing to do anything are now non-existent and if they'd given us a character transfer we'd still be here but in cancelling my account i'm sure the rest of my guild of 6 will follow. 6 accounts Sigil because the server has no atmosphere, no players and no soul.

Oh...one last thing, naming no names but last night being chain killed by a level 44 shadow sorcerer who proceeded to /say that he'd read a post from me on this very forum about my desire for a server merge was the reason he'd killed me ingame....sad.

Bye and thanks to anyone who'd played with me at any point and especially those that made me rich buying my rare textiles...not sure where you're gonna get them from now though - I was the only one doing it!!! :)

MoS
05-07-2007, 04:30 AM
I also play on Frengrot, and we have about 400-500 players in the week around 8pm...

And even in the weekends we cant get more than 500-600 players, u can forget that.... i just hope that they will merge us with the us team pvp server, it would help a little bit, and many many players who cancelled because of the low pop, would come back!

-> much better.

dan9of9
05-07-2007, 04:34 AM
Aye,/signed,frengrot suks.
Also leaving soon i think,its just to stale now.

Server Merge is needed BIGTIME.
(althou votan would disagree,if he had bulls enough to not hide behind a diferent name in this forum.)
Even thou he came over to rant in txt about us going on about frengrot server is dead in this forum,and then persisted to corpse camp us with a shamen,us being lvl 38 and him being lvl 44 with a 41.
He actually thought it would teach us a lesson,lmao.
(all for pvp ofc,hense pvp server we on,but i do question peoples motives for camping someone 6 lvls below them,to prove some point about what he didnt like on a forum,lmfao)

Anyway,game is dead for us, lack of groups,no crafters left,or ones that are dont bother.
Gold coming out my ears with nothing to spend it on (500 quarring) not that even granite sells on our server.

Ah,whole guild is actually a clan,we all going to qwet soon as this game holds nothing for us.
Dev team is amazing btw,just a shame they let this server be so dead.
Others might disagree,and thats fine,each to their own and that,but for us, we just bored of it now.

ekre
05-07-2007, 04:48 AM
played on frengrot, it was totally empty (canceld about a month ago), that was one of the reasons why i cancelled. it was so bad, like a single player game (and in single player, oblivion rulz everything, now working on an oblivion mod pack (hehehe, its over 2 gigs atm ;)).

Vansar
05-07-2007, 04:58 AM
yeah frengrot is dead sad but true :(

a friend and i rolled a toon on gelenea (??) and we are still amazed how many people there are in every chunk we visit :cool:

hope they do something for the left players on frengrot because i miss my cleric toon :confused:

MoS
05-07-2007, 05:42 AM
yeah frengrot is dead sad but true :(

a friend and i rolled a toon on gelenea (??) and we are still amazed how many people there are in every chunk we visit :cool:

hope they do something for the left players on frengrot because i miss my cleric toon :confused:

People leaving every day from Frengrot.... they have to do something soon, even ppl like me, who really like VG, will quit soon.

I mean, for me VG is the best mmorpg at the moment, but for me it is the same like a single player rpg, because i play on Frengrot -.-

I would even pay 50-100$ to transfer me to another server, for example Gelenia :pirate:

Vansar
05-07-2007, 07:11 AM
People leaving every day from Frengrot.... they have to do something soon, even ppl like me, who really like VG, will quit soon.

I mean, for me VG is the best mmorpg at the moment, but for me it is the same like a single player rpg, because i play on Frengrot -.-

I would even pay 50-100$ to transfer me to another server, for example Gelenia :pirate:

pay for transfer ? no way :yell: the players didn t mess it up on frengrot ;)

i love VG too so i go on playing till warhammer is out :pirate:

i hope if i reach my old lvl on gelenia there will be more to do for people at lvl 45+

factionfarming is NOT a good endgame i think :D

MoS
05-07-2007, 07:55 AM
pay for transfer ? no way :yell: the players didn t mess it up on frengrot ;)

i love VG too so i go on playing till warhammer is out :pirate:

i hope if i reach my old lvl on gelenia there will be more to do for people at lvl 45+

factionfarming is NOT a good endgame i think :D

Well if i could transfer without payment i would also do it :p

But what i meant is, i would even pay for it, if i have to, because i really like VG, and i would like to go on playing this game for many many months, but i wont do that, if the pop on my server doesnt change -.-

dan9of9
05-07-2007, 10:50 AM
Sorry Frengrot,another gone

Account Status: Non-Recurring Billing Method or Cancelled*

Cant be arsed to download for 14 hours,
it took 1 hour with xp,today i installed vista,checked my line speed,and 14 hours to patch it.
I was >< this close to quiting anyway.

You will have to get farming stone as the Drakes Claw Topaz wont be in the AH anymore.

:( a real shame. stupid game with its 100ppl servers.

Zaraj
05-07-2007, 11:06 AM
Very low people can be a feature, is like a litte town wheere you know everyone.
I even salute new faces in town :D

eagleeyes
05-07-2007, 11:32 AM
I have canceled also. No more heavy armors at broker. I left couse of empty server, not many random people to play. Anyway that was really nice to meet you guys, u made me a really rich man also :), i think i will be back in far future when they will merge servers or they will ban all 3$ plats sellers. How that was possible the game like Vanguard has so much uber (lol) bugs or exploits like duping, free exp and such.


Regards
Eagle ( 46 dk, 40 armorer, t5 miner )

MoS
05-07-2007, 03:24 PM
Nice, more and more ppl leave from Frengrot, but "we dont need server merges, they dont help...." -.-

Vansar
05-07-2007, 05:01 PM
Nice, more and more ppl leave from Frengrot, but "we dont need server merges, they dont help...." -.-

problem is look at the server we can be merged with. only one US team pvp server :( it don t want to have the US downtims :confused:

i like VG too and hope there will be more players on frengrot when the german language patch is out ( if ever :( ) if you read german forums there are a lot of players waiting to start if a german patch / version is out

so lets hope for good times on frengrot :D

P.S: i m a german speaking player too so plz look over my spelling / grammar etc :pirate: loved VG since last beta :o

Chabu
05-07-2007, 05:49 PM
Oh...one last thing, naming no names but last night being chain killed by a level 44 shadow sorcerer who proceeded to /say that he'd read a post from me on this very forum about my desire for a server merge was the reason he'd killed me ingame....sad.


I don't know why but I found that very funny! I think it was the whiny setup but I really like the idea of someone hunting you down because of what you posted here. That is classic rl bounty hunter converging with the virtual world. I love it!

Mardy
05-07-2007, 06:55 PM
It appear there are more Euros playing on Tharridon than Frengrot, at least from the people I've talked to ingame =P

I don't know, they should probably do a poll for euros and find out how many like to have a FFA server instead of team vs team.

MoS
05-07-2007, 09:02 PM
problem is look at the server we can be merged with. only one US team pvp server :( it don t want to have the US downtims :confused:

i like VG too and hope there will be more players on frengrot when the german language patch is out ( if ever :( ) if you read german forums there are a lot of players waiting to start if a german patch / version is out

so lets hope for good times on frengrot :D

P.S: i m a german speaking player too so plz look over my spelling / grammar etc :pirate: loved VG since last beta :o

Who cares about that small downtime, when u finally have a "well populated server" -.-

Fuz
05-07-2007, 10:25 PM
Who cares about that small downtime, when u finally have a "well populated server" -.-

If the server was to be in the US, that would add around 300ms response penalty to my pvp. I.e. it would take 150ms extra before I see something happen, and 150ms extra before what I chose to do will take effect. Not good for pvp.

Talk about being between a rock and a hard place...

MoS
05-08-2007, 05:12 AM
If the server was to be in the US, that would add around 300ms response penalty to my pvp. I.e. it would take 150ms extra before I see something happen, and 150ms extra before what I chose to do will take effect. Not good for pvp.

Talk about being between a rock and a hard place...

I played many mmorpgs on "US-Servers" and there wasnt any problem ...

Multiplex
05-08-2007, 07:04 AM
I played many mmorpgs on "US-Servers" and there wasnt any problem ...

Agreed. My DAOC cluster merged an Asian server into it and there wasn't a problem gaming with the folks of that server.

Fuz
05-08-2007, 07:15 AM
Agreed. My DAOC cluster merged an Asian server into it and there wasn't a problem gaming with the folks of that server.

I played Lineage 2 on both a US server and EU server, and I had a noticable disadvantage on the US servers.

But - as I write this, there was 101 (One hundred and one) users on Frengrot... (13:05 CET) - It's definitively not prime time, but still...

EDIT: The numbers were wrong. See later post.

Multiplex
05-08-2007, 07:20 AM
I played Lineage 2 on both a US server and EU server, and I had a noticable disadvantage on the US servers.

But - as I write this, there was 101 (One hundred and one) users on Frengrot... (13:05 CET) - It's definitively not prime time, but still...

I don't know... DAOC is a PVP centric game and I didn't notice any serious issues with killing or getting killed against the Asian players. Maybe DAOC has really really good net code. /shrug

Fingis
05-08-2007, 11:07 AM
...but last night being chain killed by a level 44 shadow sorcerer who proceeded to /say that he'd read a post from me on this very forum about my desire for a server merge was the reason he'd killed me ingame....sad.

I think that's hillarious. First you use your toon's name on the forums and then you whine when someone comes and seeks a little revenge?

What did you expect?

Zastapth
05-08-2007, 11:30 AM
I think that's hillarious. First you use your toon's name on the forums and then you whine when someone comes and seeks a little revenge?

What did you expect?

I expected to have some seperation between reality and the game on an important issue like this. Sure, it sounds funny to you to have someone 6 levels above chain kill me but I just think it's sad that they took my opinion so seriously to exact revenge...although revenge isn't really the right word because I never did anything to him in the first place except express an opinion in a broad sense.

At least I'm man enough to use a name that represents me in an answerable fashion...I could always hide behind anonymity I suppose but then I like people to know who I am. What's next? Bricks through your car windscreen for forum disagreements? Lame.

Alcatis
05-08-2007, 01:22 PM
I expected to have some seperation between reality and the game on an important issue like this. Sure, it sounds funny to you to have someone 6 levels above chain kill me but I just think it's sad that they took my opinion so seriously to exact revenge...although revenge isn't really the right word because I never did anything to him in the first place except express an opinion in a broad sense.

At least I'm man enough to use a name that represents me in an answerable fashion...I could always hide behind anonymity I suppose but then I like people to know who I am. What's next? Bricks through your car windscreen for forum disagreements? Lame.

Mah, I'll just kill Votan again, and then chain kill him. Sorry about yesterday, Votan, couldn't stay as I was heading to Afrit to meet my group ;)


And on topic : I find it very hard to find a group if there are no guildies on or when the guildies are busy, so a merge would be nice.

Testplayer
05-08-2007, 02:29 PM
Sadly Zast, you can't expect these kids to exercise the same restraint you do.

Fuz
05-08-2007, 03:09 PM
Please ignore my previous post on Frengrot population. My population logging macro's were bugged. :o

At 20:52 CET, the numbers were 476 players.

It should be at least five times as many at primetime to have a truly lively server.

MoS
05-08-2007, 03:42 PM
Please ignore my previous post on Frengrot population. My population logging macro's were bugged. :o

At 20:52 CET, the numbers were 476 players.

It should be at least five times as many at primetime to have a truly lively server.

Ah... really? :confused:

Fuz
05-08-2007, 05:07 PM
Ah... really? :confused:

Yes, there really were 476... http://www.fragstealer.net/uploads/Chat_log_2007_0508_2052.txt
Edit: Actually slightly less, since the list includes 29 "Unknown Zone"...

And there really should have been 2.500 to make the server feel alive and not like a wasteland where you see 1 ghost in every second chunk...

MoS
05-08-2007, 09:07 PM
Yes, there really were 476... http://www.fragstealer.net/uploads/Chat_log_2007_0508_2052.txt
Edit: Actually slightly less, since the list includes 29 "Unknown Zone"...

And there really should have been 2.500 to make the server feel alive and not like a wasteland where you see 1 ghost in every second chunk...

This wasnt a real question :x

I know that there are only 400-500 players on frengrot every evening, and about 600 at the weekend... nothing new for me -.-

PerritoBites
05-08-2007, 09:59 PM
Varking Numbers

Taken May 8 2007 at 2pm
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb180/silentseba/vgplayersmay8at2pm.gif

Taken May 8 2007 at 9pm
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb180/silentseba/vgplayersmay8at9pm.gif

kekerot
05-08-2007, 10:16 PM
Varking Numbers

Taken May 8 2007 at 2pm
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb180/silentseba/vgplayersmay8at2pm.gif

Taken May 8 2007 at 9pm
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb180/silentseba/vgplayersmay8at9pm.gif

http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/bodhidharma/flatline02.jpg

WarZephyr
05-08-2007, 10:32 PM
ye 767 is about right, at about 8 - 8 30 pm west coast time it was 813 so ye.

its still shit though.

i want a server merge so badly.jeez