View Full Version : Mobs turning grey for no reason
snacktime
05-13-2007, 03:36 PM
This is a really bad bug and it's everywhere. I imagine that it's contributing to a lot of people not going into dungeons since the patch.
Many named and upper tier mobs are turning grey for no reason after not being killed for a while. by upper tier I mean the tougher versions of a particular mob. I've also heard that once someone has turned a mob grey but then did not kill it, it won't turn red again even after it's agro has been reset.
The above has been my own observations, maybe others have more to contribute on the matter.
Leeonal
05-13-2007, 04:27 PM
This is a really bad bug and it's everywhere. I imagine that it's contributing to a lot of people not going into dungeons since the patch.
Many named and upper tier mobs are turning grey for no reason after not being killed for a while. by upper tier I mean the tougher versions of a particular mob. I've also heard that once someone has turned a mob grey but then did not kill it, it won't turn red again even after it's agro has been reset.
The above has been my own observations, maybe others have more to contribute on the matter.
I've had that problem too on some ordinary mobs. My guess is that the bug appeared after this patch and that it's well-known by now and will be adressed in the next patch.
PerritoBites
05-13-2007, 04:46 PM
which will be in 2 weeks!
Kovacs
05-14-2007, 01:14 AM
I've had that problem too on some ordinary mobs. My guess is that the bug appeared after this patch and that it's well-known by now and will be adressed in the next patch.
Are you kidding me? A. how's the look aid taste? and 2. The bug's been around since they ownership was patched in. The good thing is that you don't always lose out on XP for the mob.
I'd be interested to know if necros were still losing out on looting rights and xp on mobs that were tagged by the pet.
So anyway, no it's not going to be fixed next patch, no there hasn't been even an official acknowledgement of this "feature" (as far as I know.. and I probably would). But I heard somewhere that it really is all ultimately good news; so we got that going for us... which is nice.
Keshna
05-14-2007, 01:23 AM
Are you kidding me? A. how's the look aid taste? and 2. The bug's been around since they ownership was patched in. The good thing is that you don't always lose out on XP for the mob.
I'd be interested to know if necros were still losing out on looting rights and xp on mobs that were tagged by the pet.
So anyway, no it's not going to be fixed next patch, no there hasn't been even an official acknowledgement of this "feature" (as far as I know.. and I probably would). But I heard somewhere that it really is all ultimately good news; so we got that going for us... which is nice.
i lose out on xp by mobs tagged by my pet.. hayatet shammy.
LrgChickenTalon
05-14-2007, 01:27 AM
It's the new form of griefing / c**k blocking
Tagged the named and run / die / evac. If your group can't do it, why should anyone else be able to get the phat loots from it? :rolleyes:
Avengelyne
05-14-2007, 02:21 AM
Are you kidding me? A. how's the look aid taste? and 2. The bug's been around since they ownership was patched in. The good thing is that you don't always lose out on XP for the mob.
though this bug is around a while it got worse with the last patch. There seem to be a LOT more bugged mobs now.
Avengelyne
Leeonal
05-14-2007, 02:22 AM
Are you kidding me? A. how's the look aid taste? and 2. The bug's been around since they ownership was patched in. The good thing is that you don't always lose out on XP for the mob.
Well, I'm sooooo sorry for the wrong information then, but I honestly haven't noticed it until now, and I've soloed a lot. And yes, I'm aware of the ownership rules, but I've never noticed mobs turning gray for no reason this often. This is just speculation, but maybe it got more common lately?
Sanctius
05-14-2007, 02:41 AM
It happened before the last patch as well, but it seems to happen alot more now. Its not really that big of a deal for me regarding normal mobs, but rare spawning quest mobs or nameds can really be annoying when they turn grey.
Padlo
05-14-2007, 03:21 AM
Yes it got much worse with the latest patch, its very anoying espacially when it happens in dungeons. For instance, our partyc wipe and we come back and the mobs that kileld us are grey....
I hope they hot fix this, cause waiting 2 weeks is rediculous
Gfactor
05-14-2007, 11:07 AM
Yes it got much worse with the latest patch, its very anoying espacially when it happens in dungeons. For instance, our partyc wipe and we come back and the mobs that kileld us are grey....
I hope they hot fix this, cause waiting 2 weeks is rediculous
Its a freaking joke man.....I had 2 named mobs last night do this too me, turned grey while fighting. I tried to loot after they were dead, and said it wasnt my mob/not my kill. WTF? As if enough crap isnt broken in the game, with last patch now we have this too deal with (more often). Not too mention the fact that somhow i kept getting stuck in combat, had to do total reboot of game to get out of it. If i tried to do the logg out option, wouldnt let me, as it thought i was still in combat.
Fingis
05-14-2007, 11:24 AM
i lose out on xp by mobs tagged by my pet.. hayatet shammy.
Dismiss and resummons your pet. Works for the bear, anyways.
I think the problem happens when you cross a chunk line. After crossing a chunk line, your pet is no longer in your 'group'.
Rixk33
05-14-2007, 11:24 AM
Its a freaking joke man.....I had 2 named mobs last night do this too me, turned grey while fighting. I tried to loot after they were dead, and said it wasnt my mob/not my kill. WTF? As if enough crap isnt broken in the game, with last patch now we have this too deal with (more often). Not too mention the fact that somhow i kept getting stuck in combat, had to do total reboot of game to get out of it. If i tried to do the logg out option, wouldnt let me, as it thought i was still in combat.
This is a huge problem, one of thge bugs that realy breaks the game and needs to be hotfixed quick. Happens to me ALL the time!
Kwahn
05-14-2007, 11:51 AM
This is a really bad bug and it's everywhere. I imagine that it's contributing to a lot of people not going into dungeons since the patch.
Many named and upper tier mobs are turning grey for no reason after not being killed for a while. by upper tier I mean the tougher versions of a particular mob. I've also heard that once someone has turned a mob grey but then did not kill it, it won't turn red again even after it's agro has been reset.
The above has been my own observations, maybe others have more to contribute on the matter.
Grey mobs are everywhere. They are very common. This was introduced with the latest patch.
Also, when targeting mobs, they are targeting and showing as yellow (neutral) and then turning red (aggro) a second or two later. Also a bug introduced with Friday's patch.
Damace
05-14-2007, 12:01 PM
This is a huge problem, one of thge bugs that realy breaks the game and needs to be hotfixed quick. Happens to me ALL the time!
Here are the facts: Lvl 37 Sorc. I solo'ed pretty much to 37. I play everyday, pretty much since beta.
Pre-patch: I had a mob grey out to me a few times months ago. That was it.
After-patch: Happens to me when I pull more then 1 mob 30-40% of the time. Happens 1% of time on single pulls.
On my Bear Shammy: Happens 60-70% of the time on multiple mob pulls. Happens on single pulls.
Note the percentages are ball park guesses from estimating my game play over a 4 hr stretch. In group and out of group.
I can run around zone and randomly target "not attack" on mobs where there are no other players around and it is grey. That has happened to me NEVER!
Just the facts jack. No whine.
Yes this is the first time that I actually may slow down playing abit due to the frustration of not being able to loot or get xp. For a pure adventure like myself that is a huge game breaking impact.
Hotfix this is def. a priority. Not 2 weeks out.
37 Sorc, 23 Psio, 21 Bear Shammy, 10 Druid.
Damace
05-14-2007, 12:06 PM
Dismiss and resummons your pet. Works for the bear, anyways.
I think the problem happens when you cross a chunk line. After crossing a chunk line, your pet is no longer in your 'group'.
Funny..I came to the same conclusion as you in game with my bear pet on my Shammy. I even submitted a bug reporting the same conclusion. That was until I started hunting on Skawrla Rock. I re-summoned bear, re-logged, pulled only singles, no multiples, in group, out of group. I got that problem no matter what. I log in my Wiz lvl 37. Same problem. Soooo...not a pet issue but dang it seemed like it for awhile.
Rhayader
05-14-2007, 04:23 PM
Yes it's a nasty bug. I found a lot of nameds in grey mode. Annoying :yell:
Hagen_EU
05-14-2007, 05:00 PM
Yes it's a nasty bug. I found a lot of nameds in grey mode. Annoying :yell:
Can't say what it is related to - but it's pretty much not (only) by pets that cross chunks or only named mobs turning grey. I'm DK and run into a lot of mobs everywhere that show grey to me (Did a bit of faction-farming lately and wondered who could have possibly pulled MY mob before).
But yes, it came with last patch. Any dev reading?
Rhayader
05-14-2007, 05:42 PM
I found a LOT of grey mobs with my ranger. I don't use pet at all. Some guildies told me the bug is caused because someone before you target the mob, then is defeated or run away from it. The mob remains grey then. Dunno if they read this somewhere... but once again: with my ranger I am finding this bug a lot of times.
Gecon
05-15-2007, 09:42 AM
Yeah, that bug is annoying, especially on named mobs.
Butters
05-15-2007, 11:44 AM
there is no hotfix, patch or otherwise in the works. My honest impression is to play minimally until the leadership is restablished. My estimates are that we are more than 6 months away from that point.
Teala
05-15-2007, 01:44 PM
Yes it got much worse with the latest patch, its very anoying espacially when it happens in dungeons. For instance, our partyc wipe and we come back and the mobs that kileld us are grey....
I hope they hot fix this, cause waiting 2 weeks is rediculous
It's getting worse. I was in the Temple of Dailuk when I really noticed this bug was a serious problem and not just something that happens rarely. The hounds all turned grey and so did the gargoyle thingies. We need this fixed. We can't do the quest properly if they turn grey.
Vordox
05-15-2007, 01:47 PM
I think fixes are on the backburner due to the changing of the guard. Yes it sucks but not as bad as being fired.
Chabu
05-15-2007, 01:54 PM
I think fixes are on the backburner due to the changing of the guard. Yes it sucks but not as bad as being fired.
Actually it's working as intended. The players demandied slower xp, now they're getting it, as you now only get credit for 60% of the MOBs you tap......lol.
Hoarder
05-15-2007, 04:51 PM
yes have missed out on named minotaur loot and even had some of the mobs during the arena events summoned via gold/silver/bronze tickets turn grey and unlootable.
Actus
05-16-2007, 06:00 PM
I can't believe more people aren't talking about this - it must affect EVERYONE. It's the only bug that has made me not want to log in. Why spend an hour creeping to a named when he ends up greyed out? Please take a look at this!
BlackChameleon
05-16-2007, 06:49 PM
ok make with the fekken patch for the grey mobs already
names/mobs that have turnend grey is no fun
even if u evac and come back to have a go again your name that u have just claimed ownership over is now grey to u and teh rest of the server
In another post about the Ifrit items Cylus about a patch...
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Fixed for the next patch, whenever that may be.
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So, like Butters said there won't be any fixing anytime soon.
I didn't play for real since friday either and if you go and post on the now "official" forums about bugs and patches all they do is ignoring you, and if you get a reply to a specific bug its just "please /bug it ingame" ...
If thats SOE's customer support and stuff... well... down the drain.
Really downs me how they can ignore the ongoing bug/patch request stampede ingame and on the official forums. It's not like we aren't paying or stuff...
moonglum
05-16-2007, 07:57 PM
This is a really bad bug and it's everywhere. I imagine that it's contributing to a lot of people not going into dungeons since the patch.
Many named and upper tier mobs are turning grey for no reason after not being killed for a while. by upper tier I mean the tougher versions of a particular mob. I've also heard that once someone has turned a mob grey but then did not kill it, it won't turn red again even after it's agro has been reset.
The above has been my own observations, maybe others have more to contribute on the matter.
It is not just hi level mobs. I saw the grey mobs w/ my level 12 alt Ranger.
Hobart_SGO
05-16-2007, 08:54 PM
Hey guys!
Just wanted to let you know we are currently looking into this and are treating this as a top priority bug and it will be patched as soon as we get a fix. Due to things being really crazy this week, things are moving at somewhat of a slower pace. So any further details on the issue are more than welcome.
Hobart
P.S. I am still here.
Hey guys!
Just wanted to let you know we are currently looking into this and are treating this as a top priority bug and it will be patched as soon as we get a fix. Due to things being really crazy this week, things are moving at somewhat of a slower pace. So any further details on the issue are more than welcome.
Hobart
P.S. I am still here.
Yey! Then let me say thanks, first real response to the problem tho! :)
(also i hope that already fixed issues like charm might as well will be put in on that fix then, since we were told its fixed code wise, just would need a patch. ;) )
Crazy week... yea... guess everyone knows... heads up... i can imagine how you feel and i hope you guys can find the motivation again.
Honestly i could understand if the motivation isnt the best right now.
Pushed thumbs (lucky charm here if you dont know) and hugs from germany.
Mardy
05-16-2007, 10:04 PM
Hey guys!
Just wanted to let you know we are currently looking into this and are treating this as a top priority bug and it will be patched as soon as we get a fix. Due to things being really crazy this week, things are moving at somewhat of a slower pace. So any further details on the issue are more than welcome.
Hobart
P.S. I am still here.
Congrats! As for mobs turning grey, so far what I've seen are just mobs standing around being grey, not really turning grey. I've heard of stories where they do turn grey, but I haven't seen it.
Just randomly throughout the game I've seen lots of mobs that are gray, with nobody around, and relogging doesn't change anything. So obviously killing grey mobs gives you no credit and no loot.
Hobart_SGO
05-16-2007, 10:15 PM
Update,
I fixed one case of this. This is the simple case of aggroing a mob and leashing it. At that point it would appear gray to everyone else. We are hoping to get this hotfixed tomorrow. There is already a new build going to live tommorrow morning for other bug fixes. Once that is up, we'll get this bug hotfixed.
Also, the pet ownership issue should also be fixed. However, that may not make the hotfix patch.
Update,
I fixed one case of this. This is the simple case of aggroing a mob and leashing it. At that point it would appear gray to everyone else. We are hoping to get this hotfixed tomorrow. There is already a new build going to live tommorrow morning for other bug fixes. Once that is up, we'll get this bug hotfixed.
Also, the pet ownership issue should also be fixed. However, that may not make the hotfix patch.
God, if charm is in there i kiss your feet. :eek:
But at all i'm very happy to see a progress again. :)
Mardy
05-16-2007, 10:57 PM
Update,
I fixed one case of this. This is the simple case of aggroing a mob and leashing it. At that point it would appear gray to everyone else. We are hoping to get this hotfixed tomorrow. There is already a new build going to live tommorrow morning for other bug fixes. Once that is up, we'll get this bug hotfixed.
Also, the pet ownership issue should also be fixed. However, that may not make the hotfix patch.
You sir, are awesome. Thank you.
Navid
05-17-2007, 12:44 AM
Update,
I fixed one case of this. This is the simple case of aggroing a mob and leashing it. At that point it would appear gray to everyone else. We are hoping to get this hotfixed tomorrow. There is already a new build going to live tommorrow morning for other bug fixes. Once that is up, we'll get this bug hotfixed.
Also, the pet ownership issue should also be fixed. However, that may not make the hotfix patch.
wow so when they said you guys would be going back to work today they wernt joking. I cant imagine working there right now. thank man.
entrails
05-17-2007, 12:05 PM
Hey guys!
Just wanted to let you know we are currently looking into this and are treating this as a top priority bug and it will be patched as soon as we get a fix. Due to things being really crazy this week, things are moving at somewhat of a slower pace. So any further details on the issue are more than welcome.
Hobart
P.S. I am still here.
Now theres an old familiar face from mac eq:)
Glad to see you here hobart know i know we are in good hands :)
Ermack
05-17-2007, 03:11 PM
Soooo where is this hotfix patch?
BlackChameleon
05-17-2007, 06:43 PM
they stealthed it :)
hobart thank you it seems to work now
Stealthed? Nah.
Charm still breaks and also had a ton of grey mobs when trying to clear my harvest area.
There hasn't been done anything yet to test or live server.
Mardy
05-18-2007, 12:13 PM
Update,
I fixed one case of this. This is the simple case of aggroing a mob and leashing it. At that point it would appear gray to everyone else. We are hoping to get this hotfixed tomorrow. There is already a new build going to live tommorrow morning for other bug fixes. Once that is up, we'll get this bug hotfixed.
Also, the pet ownership issue should also be fixed. However, that may not make the hotfix patch.
Any idea when this fix will be going in? I saw on Vanguardspheres Asquinol said the test server build prior to the firings fixed dupe issues, zone crashes, charm fixes, and of course the grey mob issue fixed would be nice too. I hope this hotfix will go in soon.
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