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[taurus999s]

With the news that the 'driving force', a.k.a. Sigil, has left the building and there will be months of staff/product reviews and clean-up of the game, how many of you are going to stay or leave?

[Mardy]

I'm having fun with the game, I don't see why I should unsub due to changing of hands. Companies come & go, merge & split, happens everyday. The key is keeping the product going. If they keep improving Vanguard, they got my money.

[Mreynolds]

Hell it made me resub when it was made official.

[geckzilla]

I told it not to renew but I got six months to begin with, so Merk's around until September 4th or so. Every time I log in, someone wants me to make a boat though, so I keep getting scared off by those people because I just want to diplo.

Funny, it counts the day I activated for beta as the day I first joined Vanguard, so I'm leaving my subscription in just under 1 year. And that doesn't count all the time I spent whoring myself out on the old OVF to try to get in. Gaaahhh, how many years went into this game from so many people?

Oh well, I might resub if anything cool and great happens between now and then. I don't expect many games to last longer than 6 months for me anyway, no matter how great they are. :)

[sumuji]

Why would I leave?

[Jalex]

I will wait until the end of May (at least).

I want to see some details re SOE's gameplan before I re-sub.

[Chae668]

im forced to leave in another month or so.

i know kids, you all will miss me.

but i will be back.

that is a promise!:pirate:

[Kimi]

Hell it made me resub when it was made official.\

I am reinstalling the game as I type... :o

[Chae668]

\

I am reinstalling the game as I type... :o
rofl..

are you kidding me??

:p

[kcxiv]

I am staying for a little while at least. Going to see what ends up happening with the new ownership.

[Kimi]

rofl..

are you kidding me??

:p

Nope :D

I always considered Brad to be one of the most overhyped assbots that was ever associated with MMO's.

So I may not actually play - will see what comes out in the next few days -, but just in case, I am reloading it...

[Fel Whisper]

Nope :D

I always considered Brad to be one of the most overhyped assbots that was ever associated with MMO's.

So I may not actually play - will see what comes out in the next few days -, but just in case, I am reloading it...


+10 for "assbot".....instant classic.

-W

[rhagz]

assbots


LOL assbots. Hehehehe ass.

[Chae668]

Nope :D

I always considered Brad to be one of the most overhyped assbots that was ever associated with MMO's.

So I may not actually play - will see what comes out in the next few days -, but just in case, I am reloading it...
gah..

thought you were slowly dying away.

oh well, least we can stand each other.:p

[Kimi]

gah..

thought you were slowly dying away.

oh well, least we can stand each other.:p

Well I was..

But the Evil SOE Devil Incarnate is trying to lure me back now :(

[pablo0713]

I'm taking a break from Vanguard. News or not, admittedly, I played it far too much! :)

I'll eventually let it creep back into my life if performance gets better with the game. I'll definitely keep subscribing to show my support. If anything, the artists did a fine job in creating the world of Telon. It is one of the most beautiful MMOs I've ever had the pleasure (and frustration) of playing.

[Chae668]

Well I was..

But the Evil SOE Devil Incarnate is trying to lure me back now :(
lol, well...
least the forums might be fun again:p

I'm taking a break from Vanguard. News or not, admittedly, I played it far too much! :)

I'll eventually let it creep back into my life if performance gets better with the game. I'll definitely keep subscribing to show my support. If anything, the artists did a fine job in creating the world of Telon. It is one of the most beautiful MMOs I've ever had the pleasure (and frustration) of playing.
when you come back, mabye the boat prices will be down, so you can be declassified as a reseller:p

best of luck to you regardless:pirate:

[pablo0713]

lol, well...
least the forums might be fun again:p


when you come back, mabye the boat prices will be down, so you can be declassified as a reseller:p

best of luck to you regardless:pirate:

Was it a crime to sell my caravel for 60g to Birgette and my sloop for 20g to Thumpkin (who then tried to sell it for 55g via the broker)? I even gave another sloop away for free. So, not like I was trying to screw anybody. I did though try to sell the sloop on the broker myself for like one day at (I think) 60g just to see if it would sell. It didn't. It made me realize people aren't that stupid. So, again, whats the big deal?

I tried to make some quick gold in the game for myself. I am now currently boatless (shrug).

[Chae668]

Was it a crime to sell my caravel for 60g to Birgette and my sloop for 20g to Thumpkin (who then tried to sell it for 55g via the broker)? I even gave another sloop away for free. So, not like I was trying to screw anybody. I did though try to sell the sloop on the broker myself for like one day at (I think) 60g just to see if it would sell. It didn't. It made me realize people aren't that stupid. So, again, whats the big deal?

I tried to make some quick gold in the game for myself. I am now currently boatless (shrug).
hey. no need to defend yourself. just was tryin to poke a bit of humor at ya before you left.

either or, gl:pirate:

[Kursa]

I am staying for a little while at least. Going to see what ends up happening with the new ownership.

I cancelled over two months ago. I personally hated the game but since SOE is taking it, I may be keeping my eyes peeled on future news.

[Fingis]

how many of you are going to stay or leave?

If SOE fixes the bugs and ads a raid dungeon or two, I'll be a happy camper.

[ZNICK]

It's a GREAT game, why would I leave because someone else is paying the rent?

Z

[Darthorious]

My question is are they planning on ax'ing a bunch of prof.'s like they did in SWG.

If they did my guess would be psi-cleric combined into 1, the tank classes combined into one or just plain getting rid of the war because we all know their at the bottom of the food chain in usability compared to the alternatives. That being said I play a war. and that would be my luck.

Just saying get ready for huge changes because they never programmed the original game and will want to make the programming for themselves easier by eliminating what they feel is not required for the game.

You could set up a camp in SWG is had no real purpose but was pretty cool at the time so they axed that and I heard after over a year of complaining put the camps back in.

I'm now looking at alternatives because I am not going through another SWG again.

[tdewey10]

I'm in for a while. I have a 3month resub ending in late June. I'll probably just go month-to-month after that to see how it goes.

I'd like to see how raiding goes and I'd like to level an alt through some of the better sub-40 instancese. I still have saved gems for Tsang.

There's not much out there right now to compete with VG as far as I am concerened. LOTRO is kinda fun but I can only take a few hours of it a week--the epic questline is great but leveling for the epic questline is meh. And I quit WoW ages ago.

Edit: I look forward to Nino's new MMO (maybe spy mmo?)

[Mardy]

My question is are they planning on ax'ing a bunch of prof.'s like they did in SWG.

If they did my guess would be psi-cleric combined into 1, the tank classes combined into one or just plain getting rid of the war because we all know their at the bottom of the food chain in usability compared to the alternatives. That being said I play a war. and that would be my luck.

Just saying get ready for huge changes because they never programmed the original game and will want to make the programming for themselves easier by eliminating what they feel is not required for the game.

You could set up a camp in SWG is had no real purpose but was pretty cool at the time so they axed that and I heard after over a year of complaining put the camps back in.

I'm now looking at alternatives because I am not going through another SWG again.



I'm sorry but you are just speaking none sense now lol. If they publically acknowledged their mistake with SWG NGE, do you think they'll want to pul the same trick again?

[Snuggles]

Hello Everyone,

Today I would like to formally announce that SOE has acquired the assets of Sigil Games Online, including Vanguard: Saga of Heroes. As a part of this acquisition, we are bringing on approx 50 people from Sigil in order to insure that Vanguard continues to grow. SOE is dedicated to making sure that Vanguard is well taken care of and that we provide the same level of service we do for our other titles. In the near future we will come out with a publishing plan that will largely be driven by the strong player community that Vanguard has already built up. We plan on supporting Vanguard for many years to come, and you can expect many content updates as part of your subscription. Down the line we will of course be coming out with new expansion packs, but right now the focus is on making sure Vanguard is running the way it should be.

We are also officially opening up forums. In the past, our deal with Sigil didn't allow for this, but as with our other games we feel this is an important part of communicating with the playerbase. You can expect a strong presence from our community team as well as the development team members. While we realize that Sigil had said they wouldn't open up general forums, at SOE we feel this hampers our efforts to communicate effectively with the players. We will continue to support the fansites in a big way, and will be contacting many of them directly to discuss what this change means. By no means do we want to lose the strong fansite support by making this change, but we do think it's important to have a forum for players to communicate directly with SOE.

A few other items I wanted to mention

1. Brad McQuaid will be consultant to SOE as a creative advisor for Vanguard. Dave Gilbertson will be the person directly responsible for the day-to-day management of both the Sigil Carlsbad office as well as Vanguard.

2. We do not plan on making any major changes to Vanguard. Any changes are going to come from the team itself. We aren't mandating any big changes to the game. We've learned a thing or two with our experiences with the NGE and don't plan on repeating mistakes from the past and not listening to the players.

3. We do plan on spending a lot of time cleaning up legacy issues with Vanguard and making sure the game's performance improves.

By way of comparison, this team is approx. the same size as the EQ2 team and I feel like that team has done an amazing job improving EQ2 since it's launch. We intend to do the same thing for Vanguard and it is our hope that the players feel like we're doing right by them.

Smed

Read #2 for this pretans to the SWG you are talking about. I for 1 will not be leaving the game for I have invested way to much into the game to just drop it like it's hott. I have to see where the game is in a month or so before I can make a decision.

Snuggles

[Shawnsan]

I left last month when this was an odor filtering down to me...

:o

[taurus999s]

So it seems that SOE taking over is a good thing going by general sentiments lol.

[Decoy Embra]

I'll be playing so long as my friends are there and I continue to enjoy the game. Once I stop enjoying it (or can no longer afford it), then I will quit.

The game changing hands has me curious as to what will happen in the future, but for now I enjoy this game, despite its bugs, lagbunnies, and chunking.

[Pheebau]

Having fun with the game, hence am staying - a no-brainer

[mamamccann]

It's a GREAT game, why would I leave because someone else is paying the rent?

Z

We agree...papamccann and I play more and more VG...its a nice change fom when we get fed up with WOW...and yes we still play on WOW whisperwind too.

New places to explore...wonderful game art... I love VG.
It will only get better. You should of seen beta 2 compared to the present game. This game has so much potential.

But, I feel so sorry for the folks that worked many long hours that are now jobless....geez...I get that sick feeling in the pit of my stomach.

[Monthigos]

SOE hasn't even released any patches or content. It seems a little foolish and paranoid to leave without seeing any hard evidence of the direction this game is going.

[chinafarmer]

This is the greatest game ever. This is the greatest story ever told. I will never leave this great game.

[Ethanael]

I'm here for a good while. Don't see this as any reason to ditch the game. The bottom line is that I'm still having fun, and that is what matters.

[Spry]

This is the greatest game ever. This is the greatest story ever told. I will never leave this great game.

I'm here until Soe gives me reasons to not be.

[Rainia]

Well I can't speak for everyone but the majority of our guild on Hilsbury is seemingly of the mind to stick it out despite some of us having some serious concerns about the new owner of the game based on prior experiences.. I think that the apologetic tone of Smeds announcement did help. But he is a PR kinda guy and talk is cheap. Lies and other crap however, are very expensive. I hope he really has has learned from prior mistakes and I hope he takes the time to understand the culture of the VG type of player. We don't want a WoW clone. We want VG, but we want it working properly. They can start by resetting the servers so we can see the stuff in our houses ;)

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u211/Rainianightstorms/rainsig4.jpg

[Johnhost]

As it stands today my computer is not up to specs to keep good frame rates. The bugs do bother me. So until I upgrade my computer, and the bugs are ironed out, I am gonna stick with EQ2.

I think for me the best plan is later to switch to the "Station Pass" and play VG again.

[Hatto]

My billing was canceled way back when patches started to go in a direction I did not like. Up to now I did not see an incentive to resub, but then my account is still valid for three weeks and at least until then I gonna follow what's going on.

But face it, the leadership at Sigil did not change, Brad retired into beeing an icon/consultant quite a long time ago by the looks, so I'm not so positive about the whole thing.

My characters seem not to be able to move past 35, now my third is stuck in that level region, which isn't a huge well of motivation either (Stuck in terms of that I can't get myself to proceed)

[Eukament]

Having fun with the game, hence am staying - a no-brainer

Ditto. I'm having alot of fun in game, so im staying until Im bored.

[Istaira]

Staying, I love the game and just got in to Diplomacy which I love. And one day the vision may be realised. But too other players going, see you lot down the line :)

[taurus999s]

This is the greatest game ever. This is the greatest story ever told. I will never leave this great game.

LOL the poster name...

[Aikar]

This is the greatest game ever. This is the greatest story ever told. I will never leave this great game.

Not commenting on the greatest game ever as its an opinion, but...


greatest story?

What story o.o? the only story I know the game has is in archive websites of the old vg website lore section which no longer exists... and none of that lore is really even in the game.


Anyways, I left after I no longer had fun in the game 35+ about 5 weeks ago (boredom started before that), and the continuous bad changes made to the game that negated everything the game was said it was going to be and have/not have that turned this into the game I did not want to play.

Am I happy SOE took over? Yes. The game will survive now, as it should.
Do I think it was handled correctly still? No, the wrong people was carried over to SOE, and some of the good ones was let go (poor doomcookie ; ; i love you!)

The SoE change over really does not effect my view on the game, especially if they uphold their word on no major changes. The game is sadly not the game I want to play. FFXI for life for me it seems.

[Fuz]

Staying. Lots of stuff to do still, and so much content I haven't even tried.
I love the game - although I secretly wish it had been a bit harder and that all the teleporters would go away. Travel is no longer a challenge. You can reach any location in 10 minutes. Having a boat is just for show now.

[Kimi]

SOE hasn't even released any patches or content. It seems a little foolish and paranoid to leave without seeing any hard evidence of the direction this game is going.

You are wrongly assuming that logic and common sense is the forte' of the dedicated SOE haters. :eek:

[Spritzen]

I've decided to come back, now that a bit of honesty has been revealed. I have a good amount of friends that play and enjoy the game, so time to give it another go.

[Eukament]

Not commenting on the greatest game ever as its an opinion, but... greatest story?

What story o.o? the only story I know the game has is in archive websites of the old vg website lore section which no longer exists... and none of that lore is really even in the game.


Now be fair, there are alot of lore and stories in the game tied to different areas. At least when you do diplomacy for different races you learn alot about how they came about etc. Alot of quests also hints at what might have happend and why they need your help doing stuff. I do however agree that it is lacking, but you can piece alot of the story together by yourself if you bother.

Did you know that Raki is actually a space dimensional travelling race (see racial ability), that got exiled from their homeworld by the Ulvari and travelled to Telon to study it, but lost their technology to get back and the Ulvari followed them to Telon to destroy them? This is learned through dicplomacy quests on Kojan as a Raki. :)

[Aikar]

Now be fair, there are alot of lore and stories in the game tied to different areas. At least when you do diplomacy for different races you learn alot about how they came about etc. Alot of quests also hints at what might have happend and why they need your help doing stuff. I do however agree that it is lacking, but you can piece alot of the story together by yourself if you bother.

Did you know that Raki is actually a space dimensional travelling race (see racial ability), that got exiled from their homeworld by the Ulvari and travelled to Telon to study it, but lost their technology to get back and the Ulvari followed them to Telon to destroy them? This is learned through dicplomacy quests on Kojan as a Raki. :)

Ok i did forget diplo story which was nice... but its not continued :(

Wheres Idara, Jerric, and Eila?

[markusan]

Never left, probably wont leave until the game dies

[dan9of9]

Althou the game pains me in someways,AND have cancelled my acount cos frengrot is sooo bad,i have until june 6th to decide.
Now playing Gelenia,the server is just mind blowing how many people are about.

Not only is there like tons more,but you get to guild/group with the shadow and order side as one faction so that "tons", becomes doubled.

I am often shocked by seeing 3 people in a field somewhere,you stop to say hello and buff up,and before ya know it,there is a group of 15 people hanging around going crazy on emotes.

Gelenia FTW ;)

as long as SOE dont do anything dumb,i will probebly re-subscribe,but when Quake Wars Enemy Territory comes out,only play it a few nights a week.
(QWET - our next clan biggy) as only 5 of us in the entire clan are left playing van.

[Snowman]

I am tempted to re-sub to one of my many other mmo accounts just to give VG time to buff up, but things have been getting better recently and ive been enjoying VG more and more.

No, I dont see a reason yet to un-sub.

[Vithar]

I'll stay as long as I'm having fun, regardless of who the hell's name is at the top.

V

[Lauraliane]

I'll stay as long as I'm having fun, regardless of who the hell's name is at the top.

Well said, everything else doesn't mean sh...as long as you are having fun. And I sure am having fun.

[Snowman]

Its interesting to read these replies!

When this rumor first started nearly EVERYONE posted that they would cancel immediately !

Where are those people now ?

[Viktorr Deathdealer]

I've got Station Pass (Play EQ2, occasionally log on EQ1 just to remind myself why I left it). Figure I'll probably keep logging into Vanguard once or twice a week to play since it's already paid for. I just hope server transfers are implemented soon so I can get off Targonor. I don't feel like rerolling.

[cynfulone]

I have cancelled but will consider a resubscription when the time comes around.

[Vaernimus]

I'll probably come back depending on how its received. At the moment there is little point re-subbing until some major things get sorted. And that won't be for a little while. Gl to everyone subbed though, I hope VG rocks!

[Zastapth]

Staying, just not on Frengrot :p

[Zaraj]

[QUOTE=dan9of9;284654]Now playing Gelenia,the server is just mind blowing how many people are about. -- Gelenia FTW ;)QUOTE]

For those who wonder what the hell is Galenia -- It a spanish? word for WoW..

I am spanish and I have no idea what Gelenia or Galenia is. Galizia is a location. Galeno is a old version of medic. Gerania is a plant. Galenio is a element from the periodic table (I think). So.. hum?

[PerritoBites]

I am quitting until the game gets fixed.

[Garn]

Having tons of fun and will be here with myself and my wifes account for the foreseeable future.

[Andia]

I think I'm going to re-subscribe.

All this time I've been playing Adventure Quest but I need a MMO (AQ is fun though). Also the game I was looking forward to next month has gotten pushed back again to July.

So I'm just going to make a new character and start on a new server. :D

[Floria]

I in a wait and see mode. If this game improves like EQ2 did, I may consider coming back. Vanguard, in spite of the flaws, had some really great aspects. The biggest factor for me is having healthy populations on the servers again.

[shermhead]

With the news that the 'driving force', a.k.a. Sigil, has left the building and there will be months of staff/product reviews and clean-up of the game, how many of you are going to stay or leave?

I mean seriously I know most of us arent so poor where $15 really is going to hurt our pocket.

These little people think their $15 gives them some power over the game. Collectively of course but, really... game is pretty fun just keep playing until you actually see a reason you want to quit IN GAME and not based on some bs.

I dont give a damn if adolf hitler came back from the dead and now is CEO of SOE as long as I get content updates a couple times a month and they dont nerf my cleric haha.

[KombatJesus]

I dont give a damn if adolf hitler came back from the dead and now is CEO of SOE as long as I get content updates a couple times a month and they dont nerf my cleric haha.

That would be awesome honestly. Thats what these game companies need; a Hitler to give the game direction and make them do it right.

I am going to wait and see if they merge the low population regular servers. If they do merge the servers and there is no problem finding a group then I will be staying.

[Amerylla]

Definitely sticking around. Vanguard is the most enjoyable game for me. I'm just crossing my fingers that SOE doesn't change what VG is. If things change radically.. I'll rethink. Lots of really unique stuff in VG, those are the things I love.

[geneshifter]

I was going to resub after a few months until this news yesterday. I will not be coming back to support this game after the things I've read.
http://f13.net/index.php?itemid=561#more

[dallamaar]

Staying for a long time. Having fun! This is a great game! Keep smiling everyone :)

Maurisse, lvl 45 Dwarf Paladin - Flamehammer

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[Parallax]

2 weeks before my next bill...going to wait and see what happens I guess, but if server merges dont happen I'll probably be gone... :(

[Pixi]

I left a while back but seeing this deal come through (and finally seeing some official forums!) makes me seriously think about re-subscribing to the game. I'll give it some time to settle in its new tracks but then I'm probably heading back into Telon. :)

I have never had any beef with Sony (and I've been a steady customer - paying monthly for at least one title - since the launch of EQ. Yay, that's a lot of money...I better stop thinking about that now) and I'm thinking that if any company is going to turn this game around successfully it's them. They have the muscle and I really don't see why they wouldn't let the game remain in the same spirit as EverQuest (i.e. "hardcore").

Suddenly the future for Vanguard just seems a little bit brighter to me. :)

[Renfail]

I know our entire guild is waiting with bated breathe to see if SoE can turn this ship around and save it from sinking. I personally think they can.

I do know this...we are going to give it till the end of May to see what kind of bug fixes they do, and to get a look at the schedule of patches that Smed mentioned in his Gamespot interview. More than likely we'll continue lurking on alts until raid content and 45+ content gets finished. If they are looking at 2-3 months until they can get the bugs worked out and 45+ working as intended then we'll probably be moving to LoTR for a couple of months (because in all honesty that's really all the content that game has for a guild like ours...maybe 2 months of content)

Bottom line is some of us, like myself, have been in beta since 2005 when there were only 20-30 people logging in most nights. We've seen the passion the creators of this game had, and while I do not necessarily think they made the smartest decisions with the game when it went live (the whole fiasco with the 2x x2 exp weekends, effectively pushing a LARGE number of players into the end-game which DOES NOT EXIST and basically forcing a LARGE number of players to just quit the game once they got to 50 and had NOTHING to do) I do think this game has the most potential of anything on the market in terms of providing a game that promotes hard work/time invested for your rewards, rather than giving you a shiney every time you log into the game (eq2, wow, lotr).

The biggest disappointment for us was their admission a couple of weeks back that after FIVE years of development they didn't even have a raid interface. That was, quite honestly, one of the ugliest mistakes they could ever have made. They toted this game around as the savior for players desiring challenge. Kept talking about all this glorious AES (which is a GREAT system in the instances where it's actually working/implemented) and all this fabulous end-game content they were going to have...I know we had around half a dozen of our players up and quit when they admitted they didn't even have raid functionality coded in after five years. WTF? You push all your players into the end-game with your double exp weekends and then you have NOTHING for them to do? And you admit it? ****ing lame.

I was a vanboi for a LONG time, as those of you who have been around for awhile from the OVF can recall. But around 2 months ago I pretty much stopped being a Vanboi and started being a critic. I still do think this game has more potential than any other game on the market, but it needs some SERIOUS ****ing work in order to do so. Am I willing to give it a shot? Sure. I DO think they need to reimburse all of us long-time players though with something like 6 months of free subscriptions while they roto-rooter this game and clear the shit out of the tubes.

In any case, Haven will remain, waiting to see what kind of end-game content they can provide us with, and we will continue to test and work through the limited 45+ content they have in the game in the meantime.

[Roland]

Station Pass ='s ME :)

I'll be around for a long time. I actually started playing EQ, as I had an interest and had never played it before lol

Thought I'd check it out while waiting to see how VG shook out, and I've been pleasantly surprised and enjoying myself.

But I'll keep tabs and accounts open in VG as well. After a while I know I'll want a break and a different atmosphere and I'll return full time and see how things are going :)

Win/Win for me!

Regards,

[Draemorr]

I don't have a subscription currently with VG but I'm waiting to see what SOE can do with it before I resub because the game runs horrible on my computer so I'm hoping they can make it a better game performance wise mostly.

[Synn]

People talking about giving it till the end of May aren't giving the recent changes enough time to show their effect. Most people at Sigil knew that this was coming for the past few weeks, I would imagine that their best work wasn't going into patches during this time, and since they now are restructuring it's going to take another week or so before the ball can really get rolling again. This will mean that you may not see really noticeable changes till late June.

Personally I am having fun in the game. I've played all the rest except EVE (would play if it didn't take too long to get the good stuff) and they just don't interest me. So until I either stop having fun in this game, or something better comes along why bother to change?

Here's hoping they can turn this thing profitable.

[Kimi]

[QUOTE=dan9of9;284654]Now playing Gelenia,the server is just mind blowing how many people are about. -- Gelenia FTW ;)QUOTE]

For those who wonder what the hell is Galenia -- It a spanish? word for WoW..

http://www.dpi.vic.gov.au/dpi/vro/vrosite.nsf/pages/weeds_herbs_perennial_galenia

[Zaraj]

Personally I am having fun in the game. I've played all the rest except EVE (would play if it didn't take too long to get the good stuff) and they just don't interest me.

Sub EVE. Is cheap. You can level up while you are offline. And after 2 month of singleplaying EVE, you can join a carebear guild of miners, moving slowly to lowsec space. Once you are on lowsec, just fight for your live in a FFA way, maybe get hired by a pirate guild or something.

You can pay with a debit card, cause the register system support it, ..but the billing not. So you will play 1 month for free (but will be a fraud). Hope this bug in the billing system is fixed. Everyone hate exploiters.

[sytto]

Now that the game will have some direction there is no better time to stay, i was close to canceling but this is the best news this game could have received.

I'm definitely staying.

[jrey]

Now that the game will have some direction there is no better time to stay, i was close to canceling but this is the best news this game could have received.

I'm definitely staying.

I haven't played for 2 months probably, and I come back to this.

I have already cancled my account. I played SWG and only signed up with Vanguard under the promise that SOE was going to have no hand in the game play.

[Grizzlebeard]

As long as Brad McQuaid is employed in any capacity by SOE on Vanguard then I won't be returning back to this game. It might seem pissy to take such a stance but it's the only way I can show my support for the little guys who lost their jobs while he managed to ensure his back was covered.

[Squishy]

I stopped playing a few weeks ago. I wish VG all the best. I hope SOE makes it into a great game. Unfortunately, I doubt I will ever play it again. I'm waiting for something new and more exciting to emerge, even if it means waiting a couple years. I'm still curious to see how VG turns out so I'll definitely be keeping tabs on it. I'm excited to think of what can be done to turn it around (or it might not turn around at all - time will tell).

As long as Brad McQuaid is employed in any capacity by SOE on Vanguard then I won't be returning back to this game. It might seem pissy to take such a stance but it's the only way I can show my support for the little guys who lost their jobs while he managed to ensure his back was covered.

That too. Poor unemployed people. :( Most of them had passion and drive to create something new and fun, only to be defeated every step of the way, and then kicked out the door without even so much as a pat on the back for their hard work. It's for that reason I won't ever go back to VG. It's also why I want to see the game succeed. They put a lot of time into it and for that reason alone it deserves a chance, no matter who's in charge of it now.

[DCpunk]

I've been having fun so I don't know why I should cancel.

[Chae668]

I've been having fun so I don't know why I should cancel.
i do, i do!!

yur a punk. no punks aloud to play.:pirate:

[tdewey10]

People talking about giving it till the end of May aren't giving the recent changes enough time to show their effect.

/agree with this. The earliest the changes will start showing up is mid to late June. Anyone expecting a miracle in May will be disappointed.

I am certainly in for a while. There really isn't an alternative to what I like. As noted by Haven's GL -- LOTRO's cool and all but just doesn't have that much content. I played and enjoyed WoW for a year but have no desire to go back. And Nino's MMO isn't coming out for 4-5 years ;p

[camo]

I am staying for the time being, not without reservations mind you, but this is my hope

"2. We do not plan on making any major changes to Vanguard. Any changes are going to come from the team itself. We aren't mandating any big changes to the game. We've learned a thing or two with our experiences with the NGE and don't plan on repeating mistakes from the past and not listening to the players."

I hope they have learned and will just improve on this game.
Here's to wishful thinking....

[Diamaht]

I imagine myself and my guild (a driving gaming financial force of 10 people) will stay for a while since we want to play something but don't have anywhere else to go. Realisticly we are staying based on potential not so much content, but what can you do...

[ThreadKiller]

I'm got a station pass, and still play eq2, so by default I will continue to sub. My estimate for seeing some solid progress on the game by the new team is December (perhaps a holiday relaunch). It will be interesting to watch the order things get fixed. My guess is a lot of low hanging fruit, while and engine overhaul takes place.

[Motiv]

I'm going to resubscribe after SoE makes some changes.

[Andok]

Nothing better to do, so I will be playing Vanguard, patiently waiting Brads next MMO. :rolleyes: :volcano: :rolleyes:




BTW, it is no longer a Johnson or a dick, it is now a McQuaid or a Brad.





LMAO
ROFL

[Joodah]

Staying put, the switch with companies doesn't change my love of the game :D

[Tark]

Still playing, and very hopeful for the direction moving forward.

Tark

[shadowrelm]

i quit last week, before the take over news.

love the game. love the graphics. but couldnt find a group once i completed the TK dungon, and not from a lack of trying. even switched servers just to find the one i was on was more poplated.

grouping just seems to vanish at level 30, and the game turns inti EQ1. every one, well the ones that stayed anyway, soloing to the top. not to mention there are only 3 dungons i found people actually form groups for in the entire game on both servers, completly ignoring the rest of the world. KE, the ant mound, and TK. all in the same general location, near three rivers.

the rest of the world is failrly empty.

SOE taking over, hopefully, will be a good thing. will check back in a few months to see if anything has changed.

good hunting.

[AsheMan]

I quit almost a month ago with the intentions of coming back after bugs and performance had been tweaked. With the news of SOE taking over there is no way I'll be coming back.

[Deicide]

I'll be leaving when it dies. This news will probably mean it will die later than it was headed, so good news for me.

Despite all the bugs, I'm having more fun here than other games I've tried, so it's all good. If they don't put in more end content though, I have to say I might loose interest.

[Vanguard2112]

I think it would be best to find a more complete game to play while SoE tries to finish this game with half the people sigel had.

The game has just no immersion factor for me, gets boring to play after level 20.

EQ2 is comming out with a kurnak expansion + all the old dungeons like selibis, city of mist etc? AND they have a polished PVP system? (polished compared to the joke vanguard released with)... maybe I need to try eq2?


I'll play vangaurd again when they decide to add a bunch of "fluff" countent for immersion , make faction mean something, release a pvp server that has more depth then "all humans are good, even the necromancers and dread knights".

Everything about this game spoke of cheepness and no depth, and now we know why.

[Hitman8514]

I agree with the above poster. I actually just canceled my account like 30 seconds ago. My roommate is doing the same right now. I loved VG but have been pretty bored with it lately. I was also starting to realize how empty the servers were (compared to every other mmo I've played). So I just re-installed EVE which will give me my "hardcore mmo" fix for awhile. Perhaps I'll come back for the re-launch of vanguard. But I'm leaving because the game economy is basically in ruins, server population is way too low, with all the mess with sony buying sigil I'm uncertain of how the game will truly progress. It's been great all, I'll definitely be reading these forums and patch notes. Best of luck to those of you who tough it out!

[VKitty]

With the news that the 'driving force', a.k.a. Sigil, has left the building and there will be months of staff/product reviews and clean-up of the game, how many of you are going to stay or leave?

I wish people would post links to the NEWS they say they found.

[rhagz]

I wish people would post links to the NEWS they say they found.

Been living in a hole for the last week?

[VKitty]

Been living in a hole for the last week?


No but when people read, they dont want to have to search for everything.

[Swish]

Ah.. as you can see most people are followers. No matter how bad something gets there will always be people will go right with it..

[rhagz]

No but when people read, they dont want to have to search for everything.

There are only a billion threads and news articles on it. Try looking around.

[Narodnika]

I really like the game. For me it's the best MMORPG out there.
So I'll be around, hopefully SOE will make Vanguard even better.
They turned EQ2 into an ok game at least.

For all the drama that's been going on I'm surprised how good the game is.

[Bhima_LS]

Well, my main Vanguard account is pre-paid for a year starting last February or so; and I just started a new account a couple of weeks ago (yup, been two-boxing it, but I'm a grown up who can afford it, hehe).

I still have four active Ultima Online accounts that I've had for roughly ten years.

If I like a game, I support it. I like Vanguard.

[Chabu]

Cancelled account. I liked the game but the problems seems to have gotten worse of late understandably. I'll keep an eye on it's development but I can no longer pay to beta test especially with it's uncertain future course. I don;t like to gamble money/time - especially when it involves a completely new team. If they turn it around like EQ2 - I'd be ecstatic but would still need to see a strong player-base in order to return.

[dartimous]

There are definitely some things that I think SOE should tackle right away. I explained it all in depth at my post over @ http://vanguard.mmoflames.net/viewtopic.php?t=73 but basically hit on some hot points. Gold exploits, raiding, class disparity, etc. I really really really hope now that they have the reigns (SOE) that this stuff does get fixed soon :mc:

[tinman_au]

With the news that the 'driving force', a.k.a. Sigil, has left the building and there will be months of staff/product reviews and clean-up of the game, how many of you are going to stay or leave?

It's the same for me as any other game, when I'm not entertained any more I'll go else where, but currently I'm still enjoying VG.

And regardless of anyones opinion of SOE, they at least have a proven track record of sticking by a game and continued improvement (Planetside and EQ2 for Eg), so I only expect VG to get better over time, not worse.

[Jalida]

With the news that the 'driving force', a.k.a. Sigil, has left the building and there will be months of staff/product reviews and clean-up of the game, how many of you are going to stay or leave?

I'm leaving. Not because of the SOE but rather that it could possibly be months before any real performance issues are resolved. And I don't really care to keep paying them while they try to improve it. They are a company that will need to invest more of their own money into the project to improve it instead of using any of my money to do so. When they feel the game has been substantially improved, feel free to send me an invite for a 30 day trial again and I'll re-evaluate the game. If it's truly been improved, I'll be more then happy to give them my money. Until then... Peace out.

[MagicNumbers]

I'm still in.

[Motvin]

Nothing better to do, so I will be playing Vanguard, patiently waiting Brads next MMO. :rolleyes: :volcano: :rolleyes:


Hey, Brad is down now, but he's gonna rebound - just like Britney will.
I can't wait for his next MMO project. It's going to blow every other game ever created away. I heard rumors he's starting work on a 10th generation MMO with a true virtual reality and motion sensing interface. And when you take damage you actually feel it. You won't want to die in this game.

But seriously, I think he deserves some credit and respect for creating EQ (still the best MMO in its day, imo) and for at least trying hard to create a good company and MMO from scratch. He could have just retired from all of the money he made from EQ, but instead he took a chance. The worst you can really say about the guy is that he didn't know how to manage the company well, made some poor decisions, has a bit of an ego, and overhyped the game.

There have been so many big flops in the gaming and entertainment industries that it's almost more surprising when something succeeds. And I wouldn't call Vanguard a complete flop. It's still a decent game that mostly needs some bug fixes and performance improvements.

I also think he deserves alot of credit for posting on forums as much as he did. I don't know any other head of a gaming company that did that, especially putting himself out there while posters bashed away.

[Tearofsoul]

Just make a poll for this

[Tearofsoul]

I will wait till raid contents come out and see if they worth my money or not. If raids in VG turns out to be another EQ2 "copy + paste" raid encounter, cya then. :goblin: :goblin:

[MidnightShade]

Been playing since pre-release and this is the mmo that made me actually like the genre, I usually stuck to singlr player rpgs, (EQ2 aside for the 3 months I played it, although it was too small and had little exploration value in early 05', being stuck in the same area until you gain 15 levels in boring!) Vanguard brought the depth, class selection, stats/skills, feeling of powerfullness, massive seamless world for exploration, Multiple starting cities on 3 freakn continents, 19 races, Exploration is meaningful, 3 full alternative tracks to gameplay that don't involve combat w/full gear/stats/skills/and equipment, variation in gear, phenomenal artwork, a game to truly test my machine, and the list goes on and on!!! I will admit I love this game and can't see why it is hated so much. Besides the ctd after an 1.5 hours play, the game is great, and I feel much more confident in SOE getting the ctd crashes fixed then sigil, its been 4 months and its still does it! No, I am not leaving, I will stick with this game! At least long enough to actually see helms work! (I will be here for a long long time!)

[Naelael]

Im not sure what I am going to do. My sub is not active right now for a variety of reason really, none being the state of the game... However this shift weirds me out a little bit. I'm not so willing to dump money into a product that admitidly is in an unfinished state, and is going to be "relaunched" in December. I want to know what that will entail before they get one more dollar out of me.

[wolfen66]

Having fun with the game, hence am staying - a no-brainer

I am enjoying the game also so I am staying.

[Euthorus]

Already gone :ninja:

[Gaijin]

Already long gone. I just enjoy visiting the train wreck.

[Fitch07]

Already long gone. I just enjoy visiting the train wreck.


I'm the same, I'm a looky-loo can't stop dropping by to follow the drama.

[Poke]

Been playing since pre-release and this is the mmo that made me actually like the genre, I usually stuck to singlr player rpgs, ...

Interesting. I think I see a pattern here. The people who like to play VG like to play alone. VG is much like playing a single player game since there is no one to play with.

[Silvania]

I'm not quitting the sub, since I have station access anyhow. How much I'll keep playing depends heavily on how much SoE changes in the game.

Adding instances would be one nail in the coffin.

Adding more teleports in addition to the riftway system would be another.

We'll see if SoE drives the Vanguard boat down the same river as they took EQ1. Or even worse, off the waterfall and into the rocky cliffs below like they did with SWG.

[dhvyse]

I already left, account been over since may 5th.

Only way I'll come back is,

a) Less game stopping bugs

b) It runs good on my Dual Core e6600 + 8800GTS (laughable that it doesn't..)

c) The content promissed is ingame

d) Classes are complete and balanced

Which yes, basically means I doubt I'll be coming back.

[Kelenvor]

I was going to quit for a while but having second thoughts. I logged onto EQ2 last night and just couldn't get into it. After over 2 years of playing it, it just doesn't interest me anymore. LOTRO is starting to become a little stale. I might stick it out for a little longer to see if they pull it together.

[jatdrago]

I'm still waiting to get back in since the free time expired just after launch

[Pinner]

I went out and bought it (about 20 minutes ago). I think they have made a lot of mistakes (you can see what I think they were if you look at Brad McQuaids Official Post) but I'm so bored with every other game that I'm willing to try Vanguard, and hope to god that SOE fixes the problems it has.

Plus, I'm REALLY bored. Haha...

[GiggsBeckham11]

I have to agree that while this game is mostly broken and unfinished, it does still have great appeal and potential. That being said, SOE is going to have to work their tails off to bring any of it to fruition. I, for one, am taking a break from the game for a while. Having read some of the mismanagement issues recently I do not believe it will be possible for SOE to have any major fixes and content added for, at the very least, a few months.

I refuse to pay to Beta test a game all over again. I will watch and wait and see where it all goes. Many fellow guildies are gonna stick it out so I can get feedback by staying in touch with them. However, I am not going to play in a game where there is nothing to do and no challenge I cannot defeat with my guild groups. There is just no incentive to strive after better gear when what you already have is more than adequate. The game is far too easy currently and provides no content for upper level characters.

Hopefully we will see raids sooner than later. I know that the admission from Sigil that the raid interface was still being designed, after 5 years of development, was the straw that broke the camels back for me. I joined this game to raid, not to get to an end-game dominated by mindless, easy faction grinding to open up content which was only difficult in the time it took to invest.

Until then...I will be taking leave from the game and watching developments from afar...