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Dillgaar
06-08-2006, 03:54 PM
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This June, video game developers of a different kind are getting ready to talk sex. That's right, sex. Why, with all of the violence and death in video games today you would think a little love would be appreciated, encouraged even.




The conference is the first of its type and will be an annual event. This unique conference will focus on the design, development, and technology of sex in video games from a national as well as international perspective.


You can find out more at http://www.sexinvideogames.com/

All I can say is that I hope Glip isn't an attendee, I mean, a gnome... with no pants... at a sex in video games conference... the mental images are too frightening to describe...

Navid
06-08-2006, 05:50 PM
I disapprove...I mean This is going to give the lawmakers even more fuel, plus I don't want that kind of garbage on the shelves or even in gaming. I mean this exploitation sex to sell stuff is really screwing up society, damaging marriages and families, etc...

GuyJantica
06-08-2006, 06:46 PM
I mean this exploitation sex to sell stuff is really screwing up society, damaging marriages and families, etc...

How do you figure?

khatib
06-08-2006, 08:09 PM
I disapprove...I mean This is going to give the lawmakers even more fuel, plus I don't want that kind of garbage on the shelves or even in gaming. I mean this exploitation sex to sell stuff is really screwing up society, damaging marriages and families, etc...

Well I think --

The religious and conservative right who trumpet sex as such an evil commodity of an evil world have it all wrong. So there. :P

There's no reason a large number of people cannot have sex many times over with many different partners without causing the apocalypse. It's much like driving a car. It can be dangerous if you do it wrong, but if wear your seatbelt and follow some common sense guidelines, you'll come out of it alive and won't hurt anyone else either. Practice safe sex, with other people who do as well, don't get lazy, don't get greedy/impatient when it comes to condom use and there won't be problems. The unfortunate thing is you don't have sex cops strolling around watching people mid-coitus to make sure they're doing it right, issuing tickets and revoking people's licenses for doing it wrong ;) So you kinda gotta be careful of who you associate with and all.

But sex is a natural urge and instinct. No reason to try and hide who and what we all are at our core and how the world works and how creatures reproduce as if it's something evil. That's just a little over the top.

GuyJantica
06-08-2006, 10:09 PM
It's much like driving a car. It can be dangerous if you do it wrong, but if wear your seatbelt and follow some common sense guidelines, you'll come out of it alive and won't hurt anyone else either.

Heh, I was thinking this too, but didn't post it. Also, it's not like you'll see these adult games on the shelf of WalMart or Target... probably only in your local neighborhood porno shops or movie stores with that "seedy back room". :p

-GJ

Fub
06-08-2006, 10:49 PM
I disapprove...I mean This is going to give the lawmakers even more fuel, plus I don't want that kind of garbage on the shelves or even in gaming. I mean this exploitation sex to sell stuff is really screwing up society, damaging marriages and families, etc...


Games do not damage marriages and families.....people do. Responsibility and moderation is key.

Azzerhoden
06-08-2006, 10:52 PM
This is beyond stupid.

Next there will be video games simulating going to work during the day to earn a living. Perhaps they can even have *simulated* work to be done, with the more work you accomplish the higher your in game monetary gain.

Heck, then we would have bots performing the work so that the farmers could sell the in game money for real world money. Then they could claim that it was almost like performing real work in an office! Oh! Why stop there! We could have the game developers actually substitute real work for the fake, virtual work! That would give us real players playing virtual players performing virtual work that's actually real work for virtual coin that they would then sell in a virtual store for real currency.

Ok, I'm spiraling. Never-the-less, sex in video games is, well, beyond stupid. Real life and the virtual life are best when kept seperated from each other.

Danth
06-09-2006, 12:35 AM
Sex-based video games are invariably boring and shallow.


My wifey dressed her alternate WoW character up as slutty as possible just to torment the horny teenagers who frequented that game.

Danth

Bolshoi
06-09-2006, 01:39 AM
Well I think --

The religious and conservative right who trumpet sex as such an evil commodity of an evil world have it all wrong. So there. :P

There's no reason a large number of people cannot have sex many times over with many different partners without causing the apocalypse. It's much like driving a car. It can be dangerous if you do it wrong, but if wear your seatbelt and follow some common sense guidelines, you'll come out of it alive and won't hurt anyone else either. Practice safe sex, with other people who do as well, don't get lazy, don't get greedy/impatient when it comes to condom use and there won't be problems. The unfortunate thing is you don't have sex cops strolling around watching people mid-coitus to make sure they're doing it right, issuing tickets and revoking people's licenses for doing it wrong ;) So you kinda gotta be careful of who you associate with and all.

But sex is a natural urge and instinct. No reason to try and hide who and what we all are at our core and how the world works and how creatures reproduce as if it's something evil. That's just a little over the top.

It's not that sex is evil. Sex is not evil by any means. It's a beautiful thing. My problem is that it's being taken too lightly. Sex isn't just a pleasurable activity, it's a special thing to be shared between two people who love eachother. Already society has begun to tear this institution apart.

I mean, there's almost no real reason to get married anymore. People are living together, having multiple kids, and staying with eachother for years without getting married, because "it's too much of a commitment."

I'm already disgusted at how much sex is trashed in music and on TV, if they start making games based on sex, I'm gonna have to hurt someone. But it's already been started (Playboy: The Mansion anyone?) so I'm gonna go get me a pair of brass knuckles.

Khaalis
06-09-2006, 02:36 AM
Personally I don't see what all the hub-bub is about. Sex has been involved in video games since the earliest days of said games. From as subtle as scantilly clad women to games such as Leisure Suit Larry to Strip Poker. Its nothing new. Its not going away. Its not the end of the world. Sex is a much more common part of life, and much more acceptable than violence against one's fellows - so stop treating it like a capital crime. You want to ban something from games for teaching people a "corrupting" outlook on life? Ban violence. Not that violence is ever going away either, as it too is part of human nature.

JMHO.

Marissa
06-09-2006, 03:52 AM
It's not that sex is evil. Sex is not evil by any means. It's a beautiful thing. My problem is that it's being taken too lightly. Sex isn't just a pleasurable activity, it's a special thing to be shared between two people who love eachother. Already society has begun to tear this institution apart.

Sex is basically as normal a thing as waking up in the morning, returning home from work, or going to the grocery to buy food. More personal or private maybe, however 'the things you buy in the supermarket' also define very much who you are. People have come to 'feel ashamed' of themselves for the way they feel, because the society has decided it is inappropriate. A number of people have come to think of it as dirty, or when it is more than just having intercourse 'sick'.

And this is not all at the same scale across the world (which is the reach of MMOs). While in France you see sex and exposure on the television nearly daily, in the USA you'll see much more censorship and people may be shocked to see a breast on TV (and we're not even talking about sex). About a year ago when we were watching a movie with several people from all kinds of nationalities, we happened to come across a 'light sex scene'. Basically they weren't showing the details, but you could se a bit of flesh here and there. One of the viewers (from China) was terribly shocked by that and while she watched another way we quickly forwarded over it.

Anyway, the point I was going to make is: You can insert sex into video games (aimed at the correct audience). But it being (at least nowadays) a rather private and personal thing, how will you be able to KEEP it private on a multiplayer online game? How do you keep people from accidentally running into events they are shocked by, offended, or otherwise uncomfortable?

Razorwire
06-09-2006, 04:15 AM
I think that it will be good for the industry. Sex is already in video games, but having a conference about it will lead to responcible use of sex and sex icons with in the gaming medium (at least for some).

Igorr
06-09-2006, 08:40 AM
For me it's funny to see the american society handeling the sex-thingy.

Sex is a total hidden and nasty thing but at the same time the american porno industry is the largest in the world. Naked women on the beach can get arrested for showing their boobs while little kids are killing men in ultra realistic shootergames and it's really easy to buy guns at walmart.

I think the priorities are a little bit twisted on this theme ;)

If the people want sex in video games, give em sex :)

No offense at all and greetings from good old germany :)

lordomatic
06-09-2006, 08:52 AM
This is beyond stupid.

Next there will be video games simulating going to work during the day to earn a living.

Yeah, it's called the Sims. :)

Dillgaar
06-09-2006, 11:27 AM
My thoughts on the matter are this...

I will not play a game like this... but the people who would play a game like this would hopefully no longer feel the urge to play this type of game in a setting like WoW or EQ or Vanguard... and it may not elimintate it completely but it will at least move a good deal of it off of the core industry...

I can't tell you the amount of crap I heard when I made a female woodelf in EQ... made me switch to a halfling male to secure my sanity

Navid
06-09-2006, 11:30 AM
I am not saying sex is bad, but like you said when it is used incorrectly (i.e. pornography, multiple partners, etc...) It does hurt people. For example people who view pornography do not "perform" as well in bed. In fact the longer they do it the worse it gets...and we all know what multiple partners does right? There is an epidemic of AIDS and other STD's...

When it is done right, its great. Plus, what loser(sorry if that's a bit harsh) is going to play a sex video game?


(edit: by the way please tell me if I am getting to discriptive, or anything. I can change it)
Anyway that's just me and my stupid....morals.

Navid
06-09-2006, 11:40 AM
Games do not damage marriages and families.....people do. Responsibility and moderation is key.

hmm lets use that logic...

Free AKA's, tanks, and bombs for every one! (Children too!)

Because Gun don't kill people, people kill people.

You are totally right, don't get me wrong, but you have to protect people from people. "save the from themselves" I GUESS you could say...

anyway I am not sure if i got my point across, I am not the most gifted typer/writer. hehe

Its the same reason we need police...

heh im done now, I dont think this is the right place for a debate. Its just I feel so strongly about it becuase I am seeing it first hand. Anyway navid signing out. (lol)

Labyrrinth
06-09-2006, 12:12 PM
I am not saying sex is bad, but like you said when it is used incorrectly (i.e. pornography, multiple partners, etc...) It does hurt people. For example people who view pornography do not "perform" as well in bed. In fact the longer they do it the worse it gets...and we all know what multiple partners does right? There is an epidemic of AIDS and other STD's...

The only time I think someone can use sex "incorrectly" is when it's not consensual or if it's illegal (child porn, etc).

As for your statement about pornograph and it's ramifications, I think this is a rather broad generalization and only true in specific circumstances, like perhaps someone who is "addicted" to pornography.

There are all kinds of categories of pornography, from extremely softcore to unusually hardcore. Much of it is even considered art.

I also think porn can at times, be used to enhance sex, much like a toy or roleplaying can be.

Barring certain things, it's all about what's ok between two consenting adults.

Feyshtey
06-09-2006, 12:35 PM
It's not that sex is evil. Sex is not evil by any means. It's a beautiful thing. My problem is that it's being taken too lightly. Sex isn't just a pleasurable activity, it's a special thing to be shared between two people who love eachother. Already society has begun to tear this institution apart.

Well, we each have our opinions on this sort of thing, and I'll throw mine out there for ya :)

A lot of the arguments against a more free society in regards to marriage are gross generalizations, and hysteria about something misunderstood. So here's one to counter : A minority segment of the patriarchal society manufactured the institution of marriage in order to control women. It is an institution founded on control, jealousy, and greed.

I believe my generalization with about as much conviction as I believe the other. However, there is truth in both.

Sex is not taboo because it is an inherently evil thing. Nor is sex outside of marriage. And sex outside of marriage only damages that marriage if one (or both) of the partners in that marriage are incapable of speaking to each other with honesty from the beginning, and telling each other lies and hiding secrets.

Now if you want to try to convince me that a marriage based on lies, deception, and an inability to speak to each other about things that actually matter is more healthy than a marriage where the partners fulfill thier desires honestly with multiple partners...I'd have to argue that people should take marriage a hell of a lot more seriously than they do, and that sex should be entered into more freely and honestly. I think that the members of our society would be far more happy in the long run if sex were engaged in more casually by more people, and that the taboos meant to control us be desolved in the interest of us being honest.

If a marriage fails because of sex outside of a marriage, then sex is not the root of the problem. The root is jealousy, greed, a need to control, lies, and an inability to communicate on subjects of consequence with your spouse. Not because you are following your physical instincts and pursuing your pleasures.

And another thing to note here, is that I had all the hangups that so many others seem to have for years and years. It took meeting a woman who was honest enough with herself and with me about her desires for me to realize that there are many many many women out there with desires just as primal as men's. They've just been bottled into society's controls for so long that they feel ashamed of it. They shouldn't. And I've learned that I no longer need to feel ashamed of my desires either.

By the way, I married that woman, and we have a fantastic HONEST relationship.

Ylvelill
06-09-2006, 01:31 PM
I have a hard time getting up in arms about sex in video games, as far as I am concerned if we should impose rules on what is appropriate or not in a game (and I am not saying we should) then I would pick the grafic violence that seems to be the norm these days. I would rather risk my child being exposed to naked people having sex than getting used to seeing people having their heads blown up :)

Vengeful
06-09-2006, 01:39 PM
I've never understood why people have bothered trying to convince people what they should and shouldn't do with their own body parts.

khatib
06-09-2006, 10:21 PM
It's not that sex is evil. Sex is not evil by any means. It's a beautiful thing. My problem is that it's being taken too lightly. Sex isn't just a pleasurable activity, it's a special thing to be shared between two people who love eachother. Already society has begun to tear this institution apart.

Say what now???

Read history much? Apparently not. American society and culture, and European Christianity built up what you are referring to as an institution. Other societies and cultures around the world, and cultures and societies that long out-date what you are using as a benchmark approach sex in a much different fashion. What you say "already society" is tearing apart is an institution that the society you're referring to built up in effect to ruin the beliefs, norms and cultural practices of someone else.

And for you to expect to force your narrow view of sex and sexuality upon other people is very closed-minded of you you know.


I'm already disgusted at how much sex is trashed in music and on TV, if they start making games based on sex, I'm gonna have to hurt someone... I'm gonna go get me a pair of brass knuckles.

Jeez buddy. Cool it. You need to get laid or somethin. ;)

Ahem
06-10-2006, 02:24 AM
I have no problems with pornography or sex video games. In fact, I encourage it, why? Because I don't like sex bleeding in every TV program and clad female models in every game I play.
I'd have the horny toads on WoW jerking off at some website or on some other game rather than lowering my gaming experience.
As for the people that actually put energy into opposing this kind of stuff, you have to wonder what their compensating for.
Just remember that sex is nothing more than a biological urge to preserve our species. Anyone trying to say anything else is just using some moral (i.e. religious) argument to attempt to stamp on our rights as humans and Americans.

reefus88
06-10-2006, 10:32 AM
this is why I dont care if video games get censored/rated.