Building PC

[Moshizz]

Hey, i am from England (I got reffered here by an american :P) and i want to upgrade my pc to the best i can with my price.

I have been given £300 for Xmas and i would like:

New Processor (AMD Preferably)
New GFX Card (ATI I'd rather have)
New mouse (I have my heart set on a Logitech G7)
New keyboard (Have my heart set on a Eclipse light up one something :P)
New PSU to run it all (I'd like a 450 - 500W please)
New motherboard (Must be working with the PSU, CPU and GFX Card)

As i say i have £300 and i already have a Gaming case for all this to go into, with DVD drives, any help would be much loved, thanks!

Moshizz

[rabb1t]

Eeeeeeuumm... I'm showing that as ~$580 US $. I don't mean to offend you or anything, but there is no way you can build a whole PC with that. At most I could maybe suggest a new MB, CPU and ram, but the rest of the system would have to remain unchanged.

I don't think anyone here will be able to succeed at recommending a complete build that will run current games well in that price range. We may be able to point you towards some good upgrades though if you list what you currently have.

I have a very strong feeling though that my recommendation is going to be 'you don't have enough to change the PC, get a Wii and some games and have some fun doin' console gaming.' :( :D

What do you have now exactly?
What level of gaming are you trying to / hoping to reach?

[Moshizz]

Well, i have a case already so thats good

1GB Ram...
1.79 GHZ AMD Sempron 3000+
Erm motherboard is...i dunno but its MS-7184 on it so they may help!
ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 Built in GFX
160GB HDD
2 DVD Drives..


Thats all really, im trying to achieve games such as BF 2142 but with decent gfx...high would be brilliant but medium would be alright i suppose.

I want a new GFX Card and Processor deffinatly, which means new PSU motherboard id like because this one has been battered and i dont think a GFX card will fit in the slot because of something snapped off.

Thanks

[rabb1t]

Well, this would probably do ok, but I'm ... concerned ... about your level of knowledge. Doing a build is a tricky thing, do you have someone experienced who can help you?

Also, I make no guarentee this would work with what you have.

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103033) socket AM2 $89
Asus M2N-E nForce 570 type (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131022) $94
G.Skill 1 gig kit DDR2-800 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231102) $110
Evga 7600 GT (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130017) $120 after rebate
Antec True Power TP3-550 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817371002) $100

Total = 513

With the budget for those parts it is extremely unlikely you'll get high settings in any current game. Decent at like 1280x1024, but I doubt high.

[Slide]

UK prices are way higher than US prices. 300 quid wont go far.

[rabb1t]

Yeah, it'd be best if ya gave us a link or 2 on sites you'd be buying the parts from. That way we wouldn't have to convert prices, and they'd be the correct prices for the correct/available parts in your area.

[Slide]

www.overclockers.co.uk is who i like, some others had bad experiences with them. A pound is worth two dollars, but expect ~40-50% price increase like for like here.

Cutting corners massively:

Abit KN9S nForce 550 (Socket AM2) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard £52
Maybe be able to save RAM (free) (2GB will cost 150+)
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+ 2.00GHz (Socket AM2) - Retail £88
Antec NeoHE 500W Modular ATX2.0 PSU £62
HIS ATI Radeon X1950 Pro ICEQ 3 TURBO SILENT Heatpipe 256MB GDDR3 VIVO £135

Thats around £330 without mouse / keyboard - no idea if it will work together, but should do. What do you have for hard disks?

Actually quite tempted to get that vidcard myself.

Eck, forgot VAT - add 17.5% to that price - do you know anyone with a business? Cant really go much lower than that without it being pointless to upgrade. Maybe knock 50 quid off with a single core AMD, and another 50 quid off with a budget graphics card - like a ATI 1600 or something.

How old are you? Should be able to make the extra costs fairly easily by working/paper rounds/ebay/protection racket/selling soul to satan etc.

[Moshizz]

I use OverClockers.co.uk and i can fit pc's just need the knowledge of what goes best with what, my mates gonna get me a Nvidia GFX card and a Processor, he might sort it all out for me.

Also, www.EBuyer.co.uk do very cheap prices of things there, i use them a lot for Mice, Keyboards, Cases and Speakers, UK People check it out.

Thanks anyway guys!

Might drop back for some more help when my pc blows up :rolleyes:

[Loopy]

It's highly unlikely that you will be able to use the ram from your old computer for that build. You probably have DDR1 ram which is not compatible with the DDR2 sockets on the motherboard you selected.

[Moshizz]

Ah, i have 1Gb of DDR ram both are 512mb sticks...:(

[Uyenbob]

I don't know much about UK sites but i will give this a try.

AMD ATHLON 64 X2 3800+ & GIGABYTE M75SLI-S4 BUNDLE (http://www.misco.co.uk/productinformation/~110324~WW~/AMD%20ATHLON%2064%20X2%203800%2B%20%26%20GIGABYTE% 20M75SLI-S4%20BUNDLE.htm) 187.99(with VAT)

Corsair 1GB VS DDR667 DDR2 2x512MB (http://www.misco.co.uk/productinformation/~100658~WW~es~/Corsair%201GB%20VS%20DDR667%20DDR2%202x512MB%20(2X 64x64)%20CAS4.htm) 88.83(with VAT)

500w PSU (http://www.misco.co.uk/productinformation/~110186~WW~es~/500W%20True%20Power%20Silent%20ATX%20PSU.htm) 27.01(with VAT)


Total 304.01. would just need your mate to get you the GPU. I'm sure someone might be able to come up with something better but i just went through real fast before i have to head to work.

[rabb1t]

Good build save for 1 thing.

500w PSU (http://www.misco.co.uk/productinformation/~110186~WW~es~/500W%20True%20Power%20Silent%20ATX%20PSU.htm) 27.01(with VAT)

That'd be pushing minimum on a single GPU, as that PSU has a single v12 line with 18a.

This Hiper 530w (http://www.misco.co.uk/productinformation/~110344~WW~/Hiper%20530W%20ATX%20v2.2%2C%20Silent%2FTemperatur e%20Control%2C%20Active%20PFC%2C%20SLi%20ready.htm ) @$50 would be a lot safer with dual v12 at 17a and 18a. That'd cover you for any GPU out there.

I'd be worried about the one ya linked cause Evga is recommending 26-28a for the 8 series and 18-22a for the 7 series (not counting the GX2 which has a 36a req.)

[Uyenbob]

Good build save for 1 thing.



That'd be pushing minimum on a single GPU, as that PSU has a single v12 line with 18a.

This Hiper 530w (http://www.misco.co.uk/productinformation/~110344~WW~/Hiper%20530W%20ATX%20v2.2%2C%20Silent%2FTemperatur e%20Control%2C%20Active%20PFC%2C%20SLi%20ready.htm ) @$50 would be a lot safer with dual v12 at 17a and 18a. That'd cover you for any GPU out there.

I'd be worried about the one ya linked cause Evga is recommending 26-28a for the 8 series and 18-22a for the 7 series (not counting the GX2 which has a 36a req.)

I did it real fast because I had to leave for work, was giving more of a general idea and wasn't looking to much into it.

[Slide]

Find someone with a limited company business, you can easily fiddle the 17.5% VAT back - especially on computing. If your prepared to spend a month or so ordering stick with oc/uk - they have great rotating deals on different areas each week- sticking to whats on special offer will take 6 weeks or so but save you a bunch.

Misco suck.