Men who play with their Wife/GF.

[ShadeVice]

Ok so I game with my Wife.

How many of your women are self reliant? Dont ask too many questions, dont really need their hand held..kind of play like you do?

How many get frustrated when they die, ask about almost every little thing. Even when youve never even been there or done it?

My wife is a very good player while grouping does her job better then most ive ever grouped with but gets so frustrated on deaths hehe. Tends to ask a lot of Qs as well, guess you could say shes a mix of the 2 scenarios above.

Just conversationaly speaking...

Curious what other men go through?

[Lizard]

My Gf usually levels past me and has multiple alts. OTOH, she's really hard to give advice to and tends to learn her class to "minimal competence" instead of true mastery. (she got her WoW hunter to level 58 before realizing that some Talents unlocked skils/attacks she couldn't get otherwise, and has just now begun to understand effect stacking and why spamming stuns is a waste of mana/arrows.)

[Zakonax]

Ok so I game with my Wife.

How many of your women are self reliant? Dont ask too many questions, dont really need their hand held..kind of play like you do?

How many get frustrated when they die, ask about almost every little thing. Even when youve never even been there or done it?

My wife is a very good player while grouping does her job better then most ive ever grouped with but gets so frustrated on deaths hehe. Tends to ask a lot of Qs as well, guess you could say shes a mix of the 2 scenarios above.

Just conversationaly speaking...

Curious what other men go through?

I also game with my wife. I think she's a very good player, and gets a lot of excitement from playing. I do think she asks a lot of questions, but I personally believe that is a good thing. I spend a lot of time browsing sites and things for information, and try to have the answers for her when she asks me. I wouldn't say she needs her hand held, she is just vocally asking the same questions that I have thought, and read on forums to find the answer.

She can get a little frustrated when dying, but then can't we all. I remember exp'ing for hours with her in EQ, and then having something screwy happen that killed us both and set us back an hour or so in terms of progress. That could get pretty frustrating for anyone!!

[Pahya]

Better question:

How many men ask their girl friend for quest help? How many girl friends tell their boyfriends tips and tricks which they ignore, then ask them about a day later? How many girls have a firmer grasp on lore than their men?

I'm a more hard core player than my boyfriend, only thing that ticks me of is PvP and I never... ever. Need my hand held thank you. Unless my characters hand takes his characters hand ;)

In my relationship, it's I who looks things up on forums and spends time reading guides. I don't think it's right to assume that women who play with their boyfriends/husbands are clueless and only along for the ride. I'm sure there may be otherwise non-gamer girls who play MMOs because of their different apeal, but I'm also sure there are plenty of men with girls who can hold their own in a frag fest or who put twenty more hours into FFXII than they did.

[-Hero-]

My wife doesn't play. She thinks I'm a geek.

[Isobel]

Better question:

How many men ask their girl friend for quest help? How many girl friends tell their boyfriends tips and tricks which they ignore, then ask them about a day later? How many girls have a firmer grasp on lore than their men?

I'm a more hard core player than my boyfriend, only thing that ticks me of is PvP and I never... ever. Need my hand held thank you. Unless my characters hand takes his characters hand ;)

In my relationship, it's I who looks things up on forums and spends time reading guides. I don't think it's right to assume that men who play with their boyfriends/husbands are clueless and only along for the ride.

What she said.

[Hrann]

I'm so glad my hobby is no longer unisex like it was 20 years ago :)

[Joshmvii]

My fiancee plays with me. I would say she's a mix. She loves the game, and all MMO games basically, but I have to stay on her to use all her abilities or she'll kind of hang there auto attacking and occasionally healing. She's done very well with the crafting and diplomacy stuff, in terms of doing it on her own, but she gets frustrated when she can't figure out what strategy to use and she'll ask me.

[Zakonax]

Better question:

How many men ask their girl friend for quest help? How many girl friends tell their boyfriends tips and tricks which they ignore, then ask them about a day later? How many girls have a firmer grasp on lore than their men?

I'm a more hard core player than my boyfriend, only thing that ticks me of is PvP and I never... ever. Need my hand held thank you. Unless my characters hand takes his characters hand ;)

In my relationship, it's I who looks things up on forums and spends time reading guides. I don't think it's right to assume that women who play with their boyfriends/husbands are clueless and only along for the ride. I'm sure there may be otherwise non-gamer girls who play MMOs because of their different apeal, but I'm also sure there are plenty of men with girls who can hold their own in a frag fest or who put twenty more hours into FFXII than they did.

Haha, there are some good points there :) My wife certainly has a firmer grasp on lore than I do, that is her primary reason for playing these fantasy games. She has been a desktop D&D player for many years.

I also first met my wife while playing Half-Life: Team Fortress Classic, back in the day (and she killed me a few times back then too!) and am very blessed to have someone who enjoys the same things I do!

[vevielle]

What she said.

I game with my boyfriend and he was recently trying to tell me he wanted to make a high elf rogue upon which i spent an hour trying to explain to him that the attribute cap bonuses for a high elf would make that race play out to be a rather crummy rogue by comparison.

its all fun as long as i receive the same treatment in both worlds =)

[Hunchback]

Better question:

How many men ask their girl friend for quest help? How many girl friends tell their boyfriends tips and tricks which they ignore, then ask them about a day later? How many girls have a firmer grasp on lore than their men?

I'm a more hard core player than my boyfriend, only thing that ticks me of is PvP and I never... ever. Need my hand held thank you. Unless my characters hand takes his characters hand ;)

In my relationship, it's I who looks things up on forums and spends time reading guides. I don't think it's right to assume that women who play with their boyfriends/husbands are clueless and only along for the ride. I'm sure there may be otherwise non-gamer girls who play MMOs because of their different apeal, but I'm also sure there are plenty of men with girls who can hold their own in a frag fest or who put twenty more hours into FFXII than they did.


Dunno much about men who play with their boyfriends/husbands, really.
However, i do know that females have a different approach for games in general, kind of sticking to PvE and/or care-bearing, etc. They tend to be a bit more tricky aswell, but it's nice to have female players in general. Too bad so few girls/women appreciate games and prefer to spend some time playing something rather than... meh, doing other stuff that women do.

[Isobel]

I game with my boyfriend and he was recently trying to tell me he wanted to make a high elf rogue upon which i spent an hour trying to explain to him that the attribute cap bonuses for a high elf would make that race play out to be a rather crummy rogue by comparison.

its all fun as long as i receive the same treatment in both worlds =)

To be honest i find i tend to get superior treatment when people find out i'm actually a female in real life.

[vevielle]

To be honest i find i tend to get superior treatment when people find out i'm actually a female in real life.

I agree 100% with this

[Hunchback]

To be honest i find i tend to get superior treatment when people find out i'm actually a female in real life.

It's because most MMO players are lifeless geeks who saw a vagina IRL for the last time when they were born. :)

[Hrann]

I think it's time that stereotype died along with the idea that only men play computer games.

Honestly, I think most men treat a strange women better than they would a strange man, in gaming or IRL.

[Solondel]

As one whose wife has no interest in gaming, I'd like to ask:

How many men would kill to have your "problem"? :D

[Hunchback]

ok, go ahead and explain why girls are getting special attention in MMOs.

[Hrann]

Because men like women? There's an understatement ;)

[vevielle]

To be honest i find i tend to get superior treatment when people find out i'm actually a female in real life.

ok, go ahead and explain why girls are getting special attention in MMOs.


I have no explanation for you. it's just how it is. in guilds we tend to receive gifts earlier and more frequently than our male counter parts

[Lizard]

As one whose wife has no interest in gaming, I'd like to ask:

How many men would kill to have your "problem"? :D

Simple rule: I don't date/marry/live with non-geek women. Gaming and other geek things are so much of my life that the relationship couldn't work. I'd have too little to share with her.

Despite this, in the time from 19 to 41, I've been sans girlfriend/wife/cohabitor never longer than six months, and my shortest relationship has been nine months, with most lasting 2 years or more. And I am neither rich nor good looking, so I have to rely on my personality.

Geek women are out there, in sufficient numbers that any male who can:

a)Identify a bar of soap and tell what it's for
b)Talk to her, not to her breasts
c)Avoid drooling on his shoes when the merest hint of a possibility of 'getting lucky' presents itself
d)Provide a home address which is not shared by not paid for by his parents.

Can meet one and have a happy, fun, gaming-friendly relationship.

[ShadeVice]

As one whose wife has no interest in gaming, I'd like to ask:

How many men would kill to have your "problem"? :D

Well I can tell you this much, If im into a certain game and shes not anymore...I start to get nagged at for loving the computer more then her :p

[cversion7]

My girlfriend and I play Vanguard together. She gets frustrated when I "rush" her. I like to "do" things and get bored standing around so I often rush from one quest to another where she would rather take her time and enjoy it. It is nice that in the move from Warcraft to Vanguard, I suggested she try a cleric since I planned to be a DPS class. She actually really enjoys healing and has done well to keep my sorry, overzealous, squishy sorcerer butt alive almost all the time. It is a great feeling knowing I can pull 4 mobs, AoE them down and never look at my healthbar. :D
It is also better now that we play in the same room together unlike previously when my computer was not at her house. We're leveling and experiencing the game together and having a lot of fun with it. When we played WoW, I was already 60 when she started so I wasn't around to group with (we weren't dating then either.) :)
I try to let her figure out things on her own since she gets frustrated if I tell her everything to do. She figured out crafting and harvesting and I just offer assistance when asked. ;)
On a side note, she hates the map system in this game vs. WoW. There's no "in town" map, the minimap is way harder to follow and overall, the roads and landmarks are not easily visible on the Vanguard map. I'm dealing with it but she absolutely hates it. XD

[Nikkoli]

I also game with my wife. I think she's a very good player, and gets a lot of excitement from playing. I do think she asks a lot of questions, but I personally believe that is a good thing. I spend a lot of time browsing sites and things for information, and try to have the answers for her when she asks me. I wouldn't say she needs her hand held, she is just vocally asking the same questions that I have thought, and read on forums to find the answer.

She can get a little frustrated when dying, but then can't we all. I remember exp'ing for hours with her in EQ, and then having something screwy happen that killed us both and set us back an hour or so in terms of progress. That could get pretty frustrating for anyone!!


I would have to say my wife is like yours. She asks me questions cause she doesn't want to spend hours on websites. She will go look though if I am not there to ask.

My wife is also a quite competent player, but far from hardcore. She likes to enjoy the ride to the top and then start a new character or chat a lot. Honestly, I have started changing to meet her type of gaming more than she has changed to mine, and its a lot more fun IMO.

[Solondel]

Simple rule: I don't date/marry/live with non-geek women. Gaming and other geek things are so much of my life that the relationship couldn't work. I'd have too little to share with her.

Despite this, in the time from 19 to 41, I've been sans girlfriend/wife/cohabitor never longer than six months, and my shortest relationship has been nine months, with most lasting 2 years or more. And I am neither rich nor good looking, so I have to rely on my personality.

Geek women are out there, in sufficient numbers that any male who can:

a)Identify a bar of soap and tell what it's for
b)Talk to her, not to her breasts
c)Avoid drooling on his shoes when the merest hint of a possibility of 'getting lucky' presents itself
d)Provide a home address which is not shared by not paid for by his parents.

Can meet one and have a happy, fun, gaming-friendly relationship.

Oh, I agree - my wife is a software engineer - I met her at work. We've played DnD PnP in groups, and done lots of other geeky stuff. She's just not into games.

No one's perfect. :D

[Verstat]

Ok so I game with my Wife.

How many of your women are self reliant? Dont ask too many questions, dont really need their hand held..kind of play like you do?

How many get frustrated when they die, ask about almost every little thing. Even when youve never even been there or done it?

My wife is a very good player while grouping does her job better then most ive ever grouped with but gets so frustrated on deaths hehe. Tends to ask a lot of Qs as well, guess you could say shes a mix of the 2 scenarios above.

Just conversationaly speaking...

Curious what other men go through?

My GF doesnt play online, so she plays with me instead. I like that, allot.

[Rourke]

Simple rule: I don't date/marry/live with non-geek women. Gaming and other geek things are so much of my life that the relationship couldn't work. I'd have too little to share with her.

Despite this, in the time from 19 to 41, I've been sans girlfriend/wife/cohabitor never longer than six months, and my shortest relationship has been nine months, with most lasting 2 years or more. And I am neither rich nor good looking, so I have to rely on my personality.

Geek women are out there, in sufficient numbers that any male who can:

a)Identify a bar of soap and tell what it's for
b)Talk to her, not to her breasts
c)Avoid drooling on his shoes when the merest hint of a possibility of 'getting lucky' presents itself
d)Provide a home address which is not shared by not paid for by his parents.

Can meet one and have a happy, fun, gaming-friendly relationship.

lol..my wife is a "non" geek who plays VG. She likes this MMO and a couple FPS games. She also likes football and drinks beer over wine. I pretty much broke every rule you have listed BTW and we've been married for 7+ years now. She has always let me do my thing and I her. THAT is the key to successful relationship.

We play VG "together" and help each other out. Were just a team. That's all.

[Elfqueen]

lol interesting thread, it really can go both ways I don't think women need their hand held in games anymore then men do, men just THINK they can do things that they cannot!
My hubby and I have played together for years, I tend to be more knowledgeable about items and stats, what's best, he takes longer to learn that stuff.. I spend a lot of time comparison shopping and price checking.. He tends to do things on a whim or Read something wrong and think it's really good, when it's really not.. So I spend more time then him shopping and I will buy things for him and help him equip his character.
He also tends to get in over his head more then me, I like to plan fights and be careful about what we can handle.. especially in a game like vanguard where death hurts. I don't like dying I think the whole point is to stay alive.. He seems to think dying is a small inconvenience.. So we really even each other out here.

As far as adventuring is concerned, we are both pretty equal, we don't usually craft and with limited playtime we like to log in and start playing right away without wasting a lot of time, we do things quickly and don't like to fart around much.. unless it's shopping for new stuff, It's very important to be as updated as possible with armor and weapons. People usually love to group with us because we get things done.. some people find it stressful lol, those are usually the ones who play 8 hours a day but take 2 years to gain max level.

As for quests, I can usually figure them out quicker, he tends to skim over the important little detail that tells us exactly where the quest is.. or he will make it more complicated then it really is. Most of the quests are straight forward so if you think you've run too far, you probably have! (I'm always the one to ask for directions ;)

He gets more frustrated organizing groups and can't seem to multitask, i.e. inviting more then one person at once and typing out names quickly.. it's kind of funny really!

But he keeps things risky for us, and gets us into the tough places and is great as a tank running a group around and pushing our limits, so it's always a lot of fun

[Suvana]

My b/f and I both play. I certainly don't need my hand held, thanks very much. I'm entirely capable of finding / working stuff out on my own, if I need to, or to help others or friends. I find the concept of some fluffy little helpless female needing constant assistance, faintly nauseating in this day and age, and entirely inappropriate for the rough 'n' tumble of a serious MMO. Just my 2c.

My guild is 95% male, have to say I've never asked for or noticed any special treatment and I basically have minimal interest in anyone's RL gender (just enough to make social chitchat). I'm only interested in whether someone's a decent player (or at least an amusing one) and has adequate social skills (ie please/thank you, manners, grace). I guess my "femaleness" expresses itself in game through being more willing to have a discussion/admit other points of view than have an ALL CAPS SHOUTING MATCH!!1!, being more patient with spawns/quests/travel, and enjoying /emotes ;)

[Letsinod]

It's because most MMO players are lifeless geeks who saw a vagina IRL for the last time when they were born. :)

Speak for yourself man. I play with about 10 RL friends and not one of them fits your description. Quit thinking of computer game players as some wiry smacktard with a pencil protector and glasses.

[jayfyve]

My wife is awesome o licous! She loves to play with me and is a real help to me in the game. She usually figures stuff out that I can't and vice versa, so when either of us needs help we find the answer together.


AND

She's really ----censored------ and loves to ----censored------ whenever!


Edit: Sorry about that but I guess that was TMI....

[chesterwiz]

Ok so I game with my Wife.

How many of your women are self reliant? Dont ask too many questions, dont really need their hand held..kind of play like you do?

How many get frustrated when they die, ask about almost every little thing. Even when youve never even been there or done it?

My wife is a very good player while grouping does her job better then most ive ever grouped with but gets so frustrated on deaths hehe. Tends to ask a lot of Qs as well, guess you could say shes a mix of the 2 scenarios above.

Just conversationaly speaking...

Curious what other men go through?

Wife plays well. Just like I. Few questions. She shows me some stuff, I show her stuff. Only problem we get upset when not perfect.

Just have to relax a little and let deaths not get to us. Just try, try again.

Lovin the game BTW. Dont listen to the haters. Best ever IMO.

C.

[Isobel]

As a counter question...How many female gamers find that their S.O. is incapable of taking their word for the way something works in the game and must ask in chat so he can get the same answer you gave him? Or, how many of them get angry or frustrated when you are better at something than they are?

[Pahya]

*glances over shoulder to be sure that boyfriend is engaged in PS2 game*

*raises hand*

[Xavious]

I game with my wife as well. But thats kind of a given, seeing as how we met in EverQuest, from 800 miles apart.

She is very competent, she might over-analyze a bit, but that can be a good thing.

She HATES death, in all forms, she was lead cleric in our guild toward the end of our days in EQ, lead the CH chain and cleric groupings and such. She always feels that someone dying is her fault.

[Pahya]

I met my SO in a game too :) Certainly a way to be certain they have the same hobby as you ^^

Playing MMOs is our favorite things to do... actually, roleplaying is our favorite thing to do. MMOs are just a wonderful way to get there. It's a good thing, I can't imagine being in a relationship with a non-gamer

[Cuzecoze]

My GF hates video games. :(

[VooDoo_Papa]

My GF hates video games. :(

mine doesnt hate em, she just doesnt grasp them. she thinks my hobby is "cute", and for that reason I understand why god gave women necks *choke!*

;)

[WD34]

My wife didn't start out caring about computer games at all really. I eased her into MMO's slowly. She liked the Sims game, so when Sims Online started I thought that would be a fun thing for us to do together, since it wasn't extremely difficult like EQ. It ended up, she found it really dull (as did I). So I thought I'd go ahead and suggest EQ. She never heard of it, and when we first started (this was a bit after Planes of Knowledge came out, though we didn't have that one yet) she was extremely frustrated at it. But I helped her a bit at the beginning, and it went to a game she hated at the beginning to something she absolutely adored.

Playing Everquest was a real bonding experience for us really (at the time of this, we weren't married yet, engaged and living together though). It was loads of fun and nothing we tried since really has captured us. World of Warcraft for a little while. She was really awesome in that, raided alot, got alot of good loot. My work keeps me from doing that stuff, but eventually she got bored of WoW. She's still playing EQ, I don't really play it anymore, but she said she would try Vanguard with me. Hopefully she'll like it enough and we can recapture that EQ-feeling again. It was the best.

[Rourke]

I met my SO in a game too :) I can't imagine being in a relationship with a non-gamer


Personally..i'm glad my wife isn't a big gamer. We play this for fun and to chill. We raid and all..we love getting the cool gear and seeing end-game, but really, what i love the most about her is she'll never let me sink into oblivion in a game and get fat. She keeps me grounded and we do a lot of fishing/camping and other outdoor activities. (saltwater fishing being our greatest hobby....) I love gaming...but i think in a way, it's a very unhealthy hobby at times. For some at least...not all. I say this because i once missed a whole season of striper fishing when raiding too over my life. It took a strong smart lady to smack some sense back into my mush-brain. Raiding NEVER beats sitting on a jetty drinking beers under a full moon with a fishing pole.

[PepeluTivursky]

My husband and I game together as well. I never played MMOs much before him - as a broke college student, that really wasn't the first way I wanted to spend $15 a month, to be honest. I played Ragnarok Online and some of the more atrocious free MMOs with my ex for the heck of it and really enjoyed them.
My husband is a vet from way back. When we first started dating, he got me into WoW as a way that we could spend time together - and I was hooked.
Since then, we've played EQ2, SWG and FFXI together. Personally, I absolutely love to do tradeskilling and the other stuff almost no one in guild really wants to do. And though he knows tons more about WoW that me, I've had fun learning.
I'm wanting to get into Vanguard now, though I don't know if he'll come along or not. I hope note, right at the beginning - I'd kinda like to be able to show him up for once in game mechanics and stat knowledge ;)

[Piety]

When I started I was rather a strain on my husbands patience.
I played an EQ shaman, and didn't want to take advice on how to play my class from him, but then I got rather tired of everyone in my guild telling me how to play my class.

A turning point came when I read a long post regarding my class that completly changed my viewpoint on gear and attitude. I shared my new revelation with my husband, expecting him to be as excited and interested as I was. Instead I got a rather long look from him and a reply that could be summed up in, "DUH!" It was all the things he had been saying all along.

As time has gone by I have become a far more independent gamer. Often it's easier to just ask him about something rather then look it up, however I am generally equally capable of finding the information if I need it.

I think that many women come to MMO's or other games like this in order to understand what makes their signifigant other tick, and why it takes so much of their attention. Sometimes they become competent, even better then their S.O.; other times they will only become good enough to tag along.

If your S.O. isn't terribly good, tends to ask a lot of questions, but rarely listens to your advice keep one thing in mind. At least they are trying to share your interest and game with you. You could have a nightly arguement about why these imaginary characters and pretend world is more important and interesting then they are. Or you could be unable to explain why you can't go out to dinner because of a raid you've been planning on attending for a week.