[kilroy0097]

This is the quest.

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"The time has come to launch our final assault. With the devastation that we exacted upon the Skrillien lizardmen, they are more vulnerable now than ever."

"High Archon Nez'riss and his veterans must fall before the combined might of Khal and Mekalia. The injustices they have caused against both our people will be rectified with such ferocity that none will attempt such cruelty and barbarism against us ever again."

"A dire task, but your reward will be substantial."

Quest Objectives:
- Venteran's War Banner (0/4)
- War Banner of High Archon Nez'riss (0/1)

Slay High Archon Nez'riss and any four of his veterans and get their war banners.

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So we know where the Pantheon is and we have found one banner that was in front of the temple door. You have to speak the Word of Scale to open it. So we killed everything in this room and didn't find any other banners. We have gone through the entire village and haven't killed any special named lizardmen that give us banners. We tried this quest on 3 separate nights and still nothing has been found.

We found through a German forum that supposedly the Skrilien Feralists are named mob placeholders and so we killed them over and over again. Still nothing. That forum also suggested that there was a named down by the hostages at the base next to a statue. So we killed all those guys and nothing happened.

We saw the Archon once but we were not on the quest at that time and he just kind of spawned out of thin air. There was another group in the room and they didn't seem to be all too interested in the Archon so I don't know what was going on. Regardless we killed him and got a drop that was no a war banner at the time.

So my questions are these:

1. Where are the Archon's Veterans? Do they spawn in specific locations? Do they wander about? Does anyone know what they are named? Does anyone know for certain what their placeholder's names might be?

2. Does the Archon only pop spawn when you have all 4 Veteran Banners with you? Do you have to say anything special to get him to spawn? Do you have to clear the room first?

After three frustrating attempts and trying to finish this quest we are getting close to just giving up. So any help and detail at all would be very much appreciated.

Cheers.

[Zuzol]

We have been trying to complete this quest for a few days now.
In fact, we were working on faction for a friend killing lizards (but majority of us already got the quest started) when one of the veterans spawned (but he was the only one so far) just in the centre of the village, near the big house there.
later we found one of the banners spawned near the throne and one spawned (both without the special mob nearby) - so I got 3 veteran banners so far.
Archon spawned once with his banner nearby - we werent able to kill him (the whole fellow was away and before we got to the spot he was dead) but banner remained in the same place for hours (till server went down for a patch)
No more banners ever seen :-/ since then.
any suggestions?

[Khaunshar]

Ok, HEAVY SPOILERS AHEAD!

This quest, as many others (for ex. in River Valley) use a Placeholder system. This means that the named, or mob you need (like frogs) can spawn on any of a number of spawn spots, but this spot can be occupied by a regular lizard too. Many players dont know this, used to the fixed spawns of nameds from..... other games.... and subsequently at primary times, certain mob types can be extinct in primary level areas where everyone just cherrypicks the mobs they need, thus never killing placeholders.

Onto the quest: There is a number of veterans (more than you need btw, so you can skip some) that can spawn at various areas (not spots. its multiple spawns in a small area) in the village. Once killed, they leave up a banner which will be standing for a long time, allowing many people to complete the quest without fighting them.

Of the top of my head, there are the following veterans (and likely more)
1 in each of the lower, 2-dot areas around the houses, except the northernmost one. These are easiest to kill.
1 can spawn around the central hut, either in place of a voodoo shaman, or as part of the circle of lizards guarding the prisoners. He may have other places too, but I ve only ever seen him there.
1 is a roaming Feralist (Animist by name) who can spawn in the place of any of these wandering beastmaster mobs.
1 is a named Behemoth that can spawn in the room of the high archon, in one of the back corners. He is MUCH larger than a normal behemoth, and probably the most dangerous on his own.

I highly suspect there is a named soothsayer too, but I havent seen him yet.
In order to get them to spawn, you either clear out the areas generously and wait, or try and pick up a standing banner that you dont have yet, that others have killed.

They did spawn reliably for me about once an hour with just 2 people clearing spawns, so with a full group you can likely keep down several of the spawn areas.

[Zeratuul]

Originally Posted by Khaunshar

Ok, HEAVY SPOILERS AHEAD!

This quest, as many others (for ex. in River Valley) use a Placeholder system. This means that the named, or mob you need (like frogs) can spawn on any of a number of spawn spots, but this spot can be occupied by a regular lizard too. Many players dont know this, used to the fixed spawns of nameds from..... other games.... and subsequently at primary times, certain mob types can be extinct in primary level areas where everyone just cherrypicks the mobs they need, thus never killing placeholders.

Onto the quest: There is a number of veterans (more than you need btw, so you can skip some) that can spawn at various areas (not spots. its multiple spawns in a small area) in the village. Once killed, they leave up a banner which will be standing for a long time, allowing many people to complete the quest without fighting them.

Of the top of my head, there are the following veterans (and likely more)
1 in each of the lower, 2-dot areas around the houses, except the northernmost one. These are easiest to kill.
1 can spawn around the central hut, either in place of a voodoo shaman, or as part of the circle of lizards guarding the prisoners. He may have other places too, but I ve only ever seen him there.
1 is a roaming Feralist (Animist by name) who can spawn in the place of any of these wandering beastmaster mobs.
1 is a named Behemoth that can spawn in the room of the high archon, in one of the back corners. He is MUCH larger than a normal behemoth, and probably the most dangerous on his own.

I highly suspect there is a named soothsayer too, but I havent seen him yet.
In order to get them to spawn, you either clear out the areas generously and wait, or try and pick up a standing banner that you dont have yet, that others have killed.

They did spawn reliably for me about once an hour with just 2 people clearing spawns, so with a full group you can likely keep down several of the spawn areas.

Quick note, you said you got the mobs to spawn reliably for you about once an hour? I am not sure if the quest was broken for me or what was the deal because a friend of mine and myself sat for about 5 hours killing all the voodoo shamans and the mobs protecting the prisoners and saw no named We got all the others, the archon and the 3 other veterans but weren't able to pop that one. I didn't know about the named behemoth, maybe we'll try to get him to pop! Thanks for the info.

[kilroy0097]

Thanks for the great info! Looks like we will be grinding lizardmen for a while looking for the random vets.

However one question not answered. Does the Archon spawn on it's own in the room in the Pantheon when you walk in? Or is there something special that needs to happen? Because we have cleared that pantheon room multiple times in a row. 4 times at one occasion. And he never spawned.

[Loreley27]

I guess he is just spawning very rarely. When I got the quest, was lucky to find his banner already standing in the pantheon ... for completing the quest, it took me the better part of a whole day to get all the other banners, and when we killed the last veteran (in the pantheon again, that behemoth mob) there was no Archon or a banner ... sure I was not there all the time, but I passed by quite frequently, so I do not think he did spawn any time in between.