[fatsuprman]

Originally Posted by Wudan

yes I did turn the info for rewards, about 10times I would say. Did not get single reward I could actually use...all junk I sold to vendor

yes I could travel to another town do a different circle of NPCs, but the system will be exactly the same so whats the point? Once I find out what cards to use I will NEVER lose...again. You suggest I should do exactly the same broing thing I have been doing so far, but somewhere else. . .¨

I also thought Dipl was fun and I liked at at the beggining, but I cant like it after doing the same thing for 400th time. Its only fun to a certain point, from there it becomes utterly awful and boring grind. Maybe I could get over it if i knew there was some purpose, something I can look forward to. But there is nada...the only thing i see is stupid buff levers being pulled up and down...

/irony on
WOW look, for 1000 hours of grind i got +5%dmg buff that lasts an hour...WOW! Everyone in town get it too! Aint that exciting?
Lets grind the broken card game another 1000 hours, maybe we will get +10% dmg buff woohoo
/irony off

/flame shield on

I believe thats called Sarcasm

[niack]

"you are right friend, im frustrated with it, because I had really high expectations."

It seems to me that many of the people that came into Vanguard with expectations left disappointed while the oens that came in with no expectations are still playing.....I came in with high expectations for the game also and was bitterly disappointed with the entire game.... I thought Diplomacy especially was flat out awful and saw 0 reason to ever do it once you did a few.....Like the OP said once you learn the tactic you never lose what fun is that??? I think alot of people wanted diplomacy to be challenging and have great rewards for that challenge yet all they got was a horrible grind fest that is no challenge and has rewards that are not worth the time and effort.....I would have rather have had chess or checkers or backgammon or something else that is somewhat challenging instead of DIplomacy....There may be a place someday for this type of thing but right now diplomacy is worthless.

[Caldis]

Agree with the previous poster entirely. Diplomacy is just not worthwhile and in the same way that the game as a whole is a failure. There are great ideas here but instead of using them to build a great game they used them to add on to the basic EQ outline. Instead of building a world where diplomacy mattered and travel mattered and players run cities were integral to the game they instead spent all their time building a collection of levelling systems.

Sad really.