Cleric Learned Abilities? - Page 4

Quinalla · 04-13-2007, 12:19 PM

So we have to have aggro to learn abilities? Do all classes have to? If so, ok then, but it seems a little odd, especially when these all appear to be learned from 4-dots.

Vidrak · 04-13-2007, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Quinalla

So we have to have aggro to learn abilities? Do all classes have to? If so, ok then, but it seems a little odd, especially when these all appear to be learned from 4-dots.

As far as I know, if you don't have agro, you don't learn it. But I could be wrong on this and I have seen people say that they just had to have the mob targeted /shrug I will try both and see what happens, hehe.

Cedega · 04-13-2007, 01:25 PM

I have not been able to try this, busy with the harbor stuff, anyone able to confirm that 50 clerics can learn the spell?

Vidrak · 04-13-2007, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Greco

Ive killed over 20 of the Ostiary's and havent learnt anything. Havent even seen any of them use the spell.

Im 41 Cleric

Does anyone know if you can "out level" spells from mobs? I mean, if they are gray, can you still learn them? Or have you passed that content "too quickly" (yea, they just added it, but this seems to be what they wanted if it was done in time ...). Maybe this could be an issue? I will have to try it tonight ... I was thinking about killing the Templars too, the 5-dots, those seem to be the closest CLR mobs I have seen

Nickleby · 04-13-2007, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Quinalla

So we have to have aggro to learn abilities? Do all classes have to? If so, ok then, but it seems a little odd, especially when these all appear to be learned from 4-dots.

I did have to have aggro to learn Hallow I. I didn't get any progress or learning text when the Advisors and Chancellors in Graystone were aggro on other party members. Our sorceror did get his learned ability without sustained aggro. He had to get initial aggro, but party members were able to pull aggro and the learning process for the sorceror went off as planned. So, it appears that not all classes need to grap and hold aggro to the 50% health point. I also assisted 2 shamans in Graystone get the Spear of the Ancients learned ability (it's broken and doesn't work yet) and they also had to get inititial aggro and hold it until the learning icon went off on the mob (Graystone High Knights).

Edit: The shamans were level 50 and were able to get their learned ability off of 42 and 43 4 dot mobs. These were grey con mobs to the shamans, so at least for the shaman ability "out leveling" was not an issue. Not definitive since we all know things can be a bit buggy. Shaman ability might be Spear of the Ancestors and not "Spear of the Ancients".

Nickleby
Kirill 46 Cleric, Hillsbury

Moomoo · 04-13-2007, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Vidrak

Does anyone know if you can "out level" spells from mobs? I mean, if they are gray, can you still learn them?

Thx all for providing the information! Just obtained Hallow I from a gray mob (see pic). No msg displayed for the VT mob (Ward Shield III) eventhought the have used some suspicious spells multiple times. So WSIII could be a Lv50 spell.

P.S. Hallow I doesn't seem bad at all as it helped taking down undeads pretty fast with other spells and buffs on.

Nym_Almeara · 04-13-2007, 02:40 PM

have gotten two ticks of it off of advisors. nothing off of chancellors. just died when my guy ran

it seems to be a rare cast from them, is that true for anyone else?

Moomoo · 04-13-2007, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Nym_Almeara

have gotten two ticks of it off of advisors. nothing off of chancellors. just died when my guy ran

it seems to be a rare cast from them, is that true for anyone else?

The Chancellors also gave the "Learned more about" message and from the run, noticed that they will only start using it when their HP hits around 50%, and from there, around 1~2 casts max. Might have to kill many if you are unlucky.

Dakim · 04-13-2007, 03:41 PM

Ward 3 is SWEET 205 energy, block next 4 attacks

aLittle Bird · 04-13-2007, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dakim

Ward 3 is SWEET 205 energy, block next 4 attacks

Dakim - are you saying this from a reading the skill perspective or from an actually having recently captured and used perspective?

It seems we are still looking for confirmation that Ward 3 can be learnt in the current live environment.

Dakim · 04-13-2007, 04:10 PM

Confirmed, I can now solo 6 dots =p

Skirr · 04-13-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Elanie

I heard this morning that a lvl 50 cleric was not getting updates in Vol Tuniel as reported here. Has anyone been able to duplicate what Seven said?

Seven, do you have a link of where you got that information?

I'm the one that posted the info about Ward shield 3 on a different forum. I learned it as a level 50 dwarf cleric yesterday. My tactic recognition was around 450.

Good luck.

BTW, if you hit the mob too hard it will not cast the spell that teaches you ward shield. It will try to heal instead, it casted the spell around 50 percent, any lower and it tries to heal.

Microdia · 04-14-2007, 07:57 AM

I spent the better part of 2 hours today killing Ostiary today in VT with a bunch of friends helping. I pulled, tanked, and did 100% of the damage to these mobs, and got nothing. The mobs were 31-32 4 dots. I'm 36 with 360 TR skill...

Nym_Almeara · 04-14-2007, 10:08 AM

maybe it's a higher lvl spell?

Dakim · 04-14-2007, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Microdia

I spent the better part of 2 hours today killing Ostiary today in VT with a bunch of friends helping. I pulled, tanked, and did 100% of the damage to these mobs, and got nothing. The mobs were 31-32 4 dots. I'm 36 with 360 TR skill...

Maybe, your not killing in the right place? Or maybe the right mobs

AsheMan · 04-14-2007, 11:22 AM

In beta the ward shield that absorbed 4 attacks was like a level 46-50 spell. It wouldn't surprise me at all that you'd have to be level 50 to learn it. Although being in Vol Tuniel seems a little wonky for a level 50 spell.

Cavaras · 04-14-2007, 12:06 PM

I am lvl 45, I killed about 30 of em today. Not one single update, double checked my book to see if maybe the text was bugged, but nothing. I am at 400+ tatic. I was killing the 4 dots, when they got to 50% i let them cast, mostly they just healed even with auto attack off. tried at 60% again heals, not sure if its higher or just bad luck, still waiting on confirmation of lvl of ward 3, btw where is ward2?

Talnayen · 04-14-2007, 12:21 PM

EDIT...
I did some killing in Vol, Found this...
Correct Spell Information for Level 50 Cleric with 500 Tactical Recognition

Rotblood Prophets In the Temple of Vol Tuniel....

Here is combat text and screenshot to confirm. Took around 10 Learning to get it...

Talnayen Melkinor 50 Cleric (Vindication) Gulgrethor

Nym_Almeara · 04-14-2007, 12:58 PM

45 cleric and 50 cleric in VT, i did not get it but the 50 cleric did. spell is definitely 46 or above. 50 cleric came in at 465 tactic recognition and got the spell update almost immediately.

both the Ostiaries AND the Templars cast "Holy Warding" (which is a purple buff icon).

Aak · 04-14-2007, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Nym_Almeara

45 cleric and 50 cleric in VT, i did not get it but the 50 cleric did. spell is definitely 46 or above. 50 cleric came in at 465 tactic recognition and got the spell update almost immediately.

both the Ostiaries AND the Templars cast "Holy Warding" (which is a purple buff icon).

They ****ed it up and put Wardshield III in VT instead of WSII... Hopefully, we will only have one more patch to wait for until they can finally fix this shit.