Hey Sigil! do you guys even read this forum?

GruntyThrst · 03-18-2007, 08:09 PM

I mean I'd post links, but pretty much every thread on this front page has some GLARING issues on it, and not ONE dev response that I can see. Not even an act of denial or a "it'll be fixed when it's fixed."

Give us a freaking bone here.

And I probably sound like an ass, and it's because, quite frankly, I feel like I'm being mistreated here. All we're asking for is a response, and when it can be done, some fixes. Secondary goal or not, VG (while probably never going to be completely dismantled) is and will continue to miss out on a HUGE playerbase with current PvP standards, especially with potential competitive powerhouses like Age of Conan and Darkfall coming our in the (somewhat) near future.

david99 · 03-18-2007, 08:40 PM

Agree, I use dev tracker quite often and have never seen a post by a DEV in the PVP forum. Most posts seem to be in regards to stats on equipment or quest lines in the general forum....

Yet all our posts in the general forum simply get moved here - they may as well rename this forum from Player Versus Player to Trash/Ignore Bin.

GelatinousOwen · 03-19-2007, 02:05 AM

Sigil is wildly incompetant, your not going to see decent pvp for awhile.

piknik2 · 03-19-2007, 03:31 AM

It's not wild incompetence, Sigil never said they were making the definitive PVP game... had they, then yes it would be! Right now it's just a bonus, we're all playing a PVE game even if we're on a PVP server. There's lots of potential for this to be a fun PVP game but it won't be a priority for a very long time. Sigil seems this potential too and that's why they opened up some PVP servers to just hint at things to come.

Rap · 03-19-2007, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by piknik2

It's not wild incompetence, Sigil never said they were making the definitive PVP game... had they, then yes it would be! Right now it's just a bonus, we're all playing a PVE game even if we're on a PVP server. There's lots of potential for this to be a fun PVP game but it won't be a priority for a very long time. Sigil seems this potential too and that's why they opened up some PVP servers to just hint at things to come.

How about no? Every game is PVE orientated first, even our oldest PVP games. UO, AC-DT and even SB had PVE as an important part of it's game. Saying PVE is the priority is stupid, and personally I am tired of hearing it. Thats great, you do not like PVP, you want the devs to concentrate on PVE, congratulations you won. Now how is sigil gonna strengthen YOUR gameplay experience when they lose 15% of their incoming cash every month? When they realize this, they will fiv PVP.

Defmetal · 03-19-2007, 04:36 PM

Most MMOs don't give a damn about PVP.
Including UO, thats why it was nerfed and 100% useless now
(the death of the faction system and Trammel)

EQ1s pvp all became one server and is completely ignored now.

If you want PVP, go WoW, end of story. (unless your a guild wars type...)

PVP will become a concern probably in 4-5 expansions

david99 · 03-19-2007, 05:57 PM

WOW PVP? lmao

piknik2 · 03-19-2007, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rap

How about no? Every game is PVE orientated first, even our oldest PVP games. UO, AC-DT and even SB had PVE as an important part of it's game. Saying PVE is the priority is stupid, and personally I am tired of hearing it. Thats great, you do not like PVP, you want the devs to concentrate on PVE, congratulations you won. Now how is sigil gonna strengthen YOUR gameplay experience when they lose 15% of their incoming cash every month? When they realize this, they will fiv PVP.

Every game is PVE orientated.. um no, some are designed with PVP as the primary focus. Take for example Guildwars or the under development Darkfall; but yes, PVE will always be a part of MMOs. I love PVP, and even in this game I play on a PVP server but I did not come to this game thinking it was going to be THE PVP experience.

There won't be this mass exodus you are predicting, the vast majority could care less about PVP. And even if 15% did leave.. another 15% more subscribers can easily be picked up by them continually working on PVE.

You have so many options for good PVP games I don't know why you'd waste your time here if it's so upsetting for you.

Wreatched · 03-19-2007, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by piknik2

Every game is PVE orientated.. um no, some are designed with PVP as the primary focus. Take for example Guildwars or the under development Darkfall; but yes, PVE will always be a part of MMOs. I love PVP, and even in this game I play on a PVP server but I did not come to this game thinking it was going to be THE PVP experience.

There won't be this mass exodus you are predicting, the vast majority could care less about PVP. And even if 15% did leave.. another 15% more subscribers can easily be picked up by them continually working on PVE.

You have so many options for good PVP games I don't know why you'd waste your time here if it's so upsetting for you.

Please oh please MMO gods, let there be an actual release some day of the MMORPG behemoth that would be darkfall.

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piknik2 · 03-20-2007, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Wreatched

Please oh please MMO gods, let there be an actual release some day of the MMORPG behemoth that would be darkfall.

Second that! VG is the 6th MMO I've played while waiting for Darkfall.. hope I don't have to play 6 more before it comes out lol.

Thread officially derailed..