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Old 03-27-2007, 11:18 PM   #1
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Default So my friend built a new PC

For $550 Bucks, with the intent to play Vanguard.

AMD 64 3200+
BIOSTAR nForce 4 Motherboard
VGA 7600GT
2 gigs G.SKILL DDR2 RAM.
+ Case, powersupply, etc.


Cost him around $550 bucks. And guess what? He plays Vanguard on above balanced settings with 25-30 FPS. It lags occasionally, but guess what? What you're looking at is, by almost all standards, a dated gaming rig that runs Vanguard fine.

Remember kids, would you try running Doom 3 on a Geforce 3 and expect good results?
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Old 03-27-2007, 11:20 PM   #2
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Great way to start a flaming post.


I forsee it ending up here ---->



Edit: bad word cencorship

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Old 03-27-2007, 11:22 PM   #3
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Great way to start a flaming post, dickhead.


I forsee it ending up here ---->
Great way to prove to everyone you're immature.
 
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Old 03-27-2007, 11:23 PM   #4
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Great way to prove to everyone you're immature.

Thanks for your much needed opinion.

The guy is obviously flamebaiting.
 
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Old 03-27-2007, 11:27 PM   #5
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For $550 Bucks, with the intent to play Vanguard.

AMD 64 3200+
BIOSTAR nForce 4 Motherboard
VGA 7600GT
2 gigs G.SKILL DDR2 RAM.
+ Case, powersupply, etc.


Cost him around $550 bucks. And guess what? He plays Vanguard on above balanced settings with 25-30 FPS. It lags occasionally, but guess what? What you're looking at is, by almost all standards, a dated gaming rig that runs Vanguard fine.

Remember kids, would you try running Doom 3 on a Geforce 3 and expect good results?
Good for him. I have a nicer setup than that and I don't get those framerates.

Good for him.
 
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Old 03-27-2007, 11:28 PM   #6
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Thanks for your much needed opinion.

The guy is obviously flamebaiting.
And thank you for yours.
 
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Old 03-28-2007, 02:23 AM   #7
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My system:

P4 2.6 GHZ with an 800mhz Side bus
2 gig RAM
40 gig hard drive (old and small, 20% free space, defragged daily etc.)
Windows XP
Dell mb
X1300 Extreme Gaming Edition (Vision tek, xge)

Runs 15 to 30 depending on area, can go up to 40's. Some lag when entering a big town for first time, once it loads no issues from there on out.

System was 550.00 new in 2004 (may) and 300.00 recently on 1 more gig RAM and the card (I had a 9700 pro that ran the game at around 12fps , wanted a bit more but had to stay in budget)

Anyway....so since 2004 spent 800.00...I play VG just fine.

I also baby my computer daily. This probably matters. (and it runs only 24 processes)
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Old 03-28-2007, 02:30 AM   #8
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For $550 Bucks, with the intent to play Vanguard.

AMD 64 3200+
BIOSTAR nForce 4 Motherboard
VGA 7600GT
2 gigs G.SKILL DDR2 RAM.
+ Case, powersupply, etc.


Cost him around $550 bucks. And guess what? He plays Vanguard on above balanced settings with 25-30 FPS. It lags occasionally, but guess what? What you're looking at is, by almost all standards, a dated gaming rig that runs Vanguard fine.

Remember kids, would you try running Doom 3 on a Geforce 3 and expect good results?
My rig is older than that and I also run it fine. Not on balanced but on high performance.
 
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Old 03-28-2007, 03:55 AM   #9
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My rig is older than that and I also run it fine. Not on balanced but on high performance.
I got a fairly powerful computer and I have problems when fighting in dungeons, I sometimes get single digit frames per second. The worst part is the lag spikes when fighting a monster and every time a new debuff is cast on it (from specials it seems)the game lags for a split second.
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Old 03-28-2007, 05:58 AM   #10
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That's largely dependent on where he is and what he's doing. People are most likely to report the best framerates they see in the specified areas, not the actual average framerates they get. While it is possible to get those framerates somewhat stable on a machine like that- the minute you go into an area with a lot of crap or a lot of people, they're gonna drop.

Doesn't disprove the fact that VG is a hog.
 
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Old 03-28-2007, 06:36 AM   #11
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For $550 Bucks, with the intent to play Vanguard.

AMD 64 3200+
BIOSTAR nForce 4 Motherboard
VGA 7600GT
2 gigs G.SKILL DDR2 RAM.
+ Case, powersupply, etc.


Cost him around $550 bucks. And guess what? He plays Vanguard on above balanced settings with 25-30 FPS. It lags occasionally, but guess what? What you're looking at is, by almost all standards, a dated gaming rig that runs Vanguard fine.

Remember kids, would you try running Doom 3 on a Geforce 3 and expect good results?
With that processor you CANT tell me he is getting 25-30. With that processor is getting 10 frames in cities and with groups.

I have the same processor and a way superior 8800GTS, when i overclock my proc by 300mhz it starts to get a little better but its far from 25-30 frames in crowded areas...

way to spill bullshit
 
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:37 AM   #12
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Let's see him run into Southwatch.ppt or Khal.ppt and post results. I have a bleeding edge machine and a simple OUTPOST like Southwatch is a power-point presentation. That's the problem. I run fine in dungeons and other areas.
 
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Old 03-28-2007, 10:03 AM   #13
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With that processor you CANT tell me he is getting 25-30. With that processor is getting 10 frames in cities and with groups.

I have the same processor and a way superior 8800GTS, when i overclock my proc by 300mhz it starts to get a little better but its far from 25-30 frames in crowded areas...

way to spill bullshit
I don't know how that compares to mine but I believe him if his processor compares to mine (2.6 ghz with 800mhz side bus). I get 40 fps sometimes.
In town around 16 to 18. I can go down to 12 but that is as low as I get anywhere, ever pretty much with my current ini tweak settings.
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Old 03-28-2007, 11:43 AM   #14
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It’s all them swaying trees and fields of grass.. I look at that stuff and wonder if I’m having a flashback to the 70’s. Takes a lot of muscle to keep the world swaying like that.
 
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Old 03-28-2007, 11:47 AM   #15
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Widjits that might be very true. What is REALLY weird is vanguard trees are so realistic...I live in what you might call a "Tree house' My house is on level with the trees in the mountains and my windows open up to all trees. I see them swaying then I go in Vanguard and feel like I am looking at real life trees out my own window.

Seriously its scary LOL.
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Old 03-28-2007, 11:48 AM   #16
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For $550 Bucks, with the intent to play Vanguard.

AMD 64 3200+
BIOSTAR nForce 4 Motherboard
VGA 7600GT
2 gigs G.SKILL DDR2 RAM.
+ Case, powersupply, etc.


Cost him around $550 bucks. And guess what? He plays Vanguard on above balanced settings with 25-30 FPS. It lags occasionally, but guess what? What you're looking at is, by almost all standards, a dated gaming rig that runs Vanguard fine.

Remember kids, would you try running Doom 3 on a Geforce 3 and expect good results?
Hmmm I thought all nforce4 boards were only ddr not ddr2.
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Old 03-28-2007, 03:42 PM   #17
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Hmmm I thought all nforce4 boards were only ddr not ddr2.
Newegg has 45 socket AM2 mobos listed that are all DDR2/nForce4.

I take it this particular system mobo is a $55 NF4UAM2G.
CPU Type: Athlon 64 X2 / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64
Dual Channel Supported: Yes
FSB: 1000MHz Hyper Transport (2000 MT/s)
Maximum Memory Supported: 4GB
Memory Standard: DDR2 800
Number of Memory Slots: 4×240pin
PCI Express x1: 2
PCI Express x16: 1
PCI Slots: 4

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Old 03-28-2007, 03:50 PM   #18
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That's largely dependent on where he is and what he's doing. People are most likely to report the best framerates they see in the specified areas, not the actual average framerates they get. While it is possible to get those framerates somewhat stable on a machine like that- the minute you go into an area with a lot of crap or a lot of people, they're gonna drop.

Doesn't disprove the fact that VG is a hog.
But it does prove that people that say you have to spend tons of money buying a new computer are lying through their teeth.
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Old 03-28-2007, 04:59 PM   #19
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No, I was not trying to start a god-damned flamewar, and I thank everyone who didnt jump on the gun and accuse me as such.


And whoever it was that said the 3200+ wouldent get over 10 FPS - Ever heard of overclocking? Or how about processor speed being a little bit lower on the totem pole of performance once you get it past running at 2.4 ghz?

Its a fully optimized Windows install as well, you could say I went to extra measures to make sure that XP was more of a 2000 build that looks like XP without GUI modification.
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Old 03-28-2007, 05:07 PM   #20
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For $550 Bucks, with the intent to play Vanguard.

AMD 64 3200+
BIOSTAR nForce 4 Motherboard
VGA 7600GT
2 gigs G.SKILL DDR2 RAM.
+ Case, powersupply, etc.


Cost him around $550 bucks. And guess what? He plays Vanguard on above balanced settings with 25-30 FPS. It lags occasionally, but guess what? What you're looking at is, by almost all standards, a dated gaming rig that runs Vanguard fine.

Remember kids, would you try running Doom 3 on a Geforce 3 and expect good results?
Screen shots or it didn't happen.
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