AAs?

Fanclorn · 03-31-2007, 02:37 AM

Just a quicky question. Has there been any notes of what kind of AAs we can expect to see in Vanguard?

Akuma · 03-31-2007, 02:54 AM

I doubt the game will survive long enough for any kind of AAs being implemented.

Fanclorn · 03-31-2007, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Akuma

I doubt the game will survive long enough for any kind of AAs being implemented.

Thank you for your positive & informative reply!

Surtur55 · 03-31-2007, 03:12 AM

I've heard that they may be working on them, but I wouldn't expect them for a while.

Aalodar Lightfury · 03-31-2007, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Fanclorn

Thank you for your positive & informative reply!

ignore the guy above, there has been no mention af aa's but im sure there will be some sort of character advancment in the future

edited - Labyrrinth

Fanclorn · 03-31-2007, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Aalodar Lightfury

ignore the guy above, there has been no mention af aa's but im sure there will be some sort of character advancment in the future

edited - Labyrrinth

Yeah, I just remember towards the end of beta that AAs were listed as something that was being looked at in a future game-update or at least the first expansion. Really never heard much past that though.

Kopuz · 03-31-2007, 03:40 AM

They have said there will be aa's added. Just haven't given a time when. I myself am excited about them. But don't get to excited might take a while.

coercion · 03-31-2007, 03:54 AM

Apparently they've already started working on it:
http://www.vanguardmonks.com/option,...g3575/#msg3575

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As some of you have noticed, the Paladin just got some much needed love and after finishing that I have moved on to getting the AA system planned out.

Taleq · 03-31-2007, 08:42 AM

Err what is an AA?

Xavious · 03-31-2007, 09:00 AM

Alternate Advancement

In EQ (first game i played with AA) you could set your xp to fill a second bar, that when filled gave you a point. you could then spend these points on special class specific abiliites. as a monk, i had Rapid Feign (shorter re-use timer on Feign Death), rangers had Archery Mastery (INSANE ranged damage boost), ect..

just a little something extra for ppl who were max level and nothing to really work for anymore. also a decent way to customize your character (at least until everyone had all the possible AA's anyway)

Taleq · 03-31-2007, 09:03 AM

oh I see thanks,

Thats a pretty neat idea

Zaraj · 03-31-2007, 09:10 AM

I like it.

Melios · 03-31-2007, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Fanclorn

Just a quicky question. Has there been any notes of what kind of AAs we can expect to see in Vanguard?

I'm guessing 2x, 4x, 8x, Quincunx, etc.

Johny20077 · 03-31-2007, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Melios

I'm guessing 2x, 4x, 8x, Quincunx, etc.

As i posted before - it's a 30 sec job to add antialiasing (AA) to a directX application. You have to type just one line of code to enable AA.

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sjb1 · 03-31-2007, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny20077

As i posted before - it's a 30 sec job to add antialiasing (AA) to a directX application. You have to type just one line of code to enable AA.

in this context AA means Alternate Advancment however, though I suspect you knew that.

as for why graphics AA's dont get turned on, a whole other story.

Johny20077 · 03-31-2007, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sjb1

in this context AA means Alternate Advancment however, though I suspect you knew that.

as for why graphics AA's dont get turned on, a whole other story.

oh - sorry

Dommel · 03-31-2007, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Xavious

Alternate Advancement

In EQ (first game i played with AA) you could set your xp to fill a second bar, that when filled gave you a point. you could then spend these points on special class specific abiliites. as a monk, i had Rapid Feign (shorter re-use timer on Feign Death), rangers had Archery Mastery (INSANE ranged damage boost), ect..

just a little something extra for ppl who were max level and nothing to really work for anymore. also a decent way to customize your character (at least until everyone had all the possible AA's anyway)

Sounds very nice!
I have never played both EQ and EQ2 but I am getting the feeling that those games have brought some very good idea's into the MMO scene.

Faelor · 03-31-2007, 11:19 AM

Great news, or greatest news?

Xavious · 03-31-2007, 11:37 AM

it seems like a good idea at first, and ill admit i enjoyed AA in EQ1. but it has a flaw in the way that EQ did it. there was no limit on AA points. so eventually you just maxxed out again. just as if they raised the level cap. all the characters ended up the same eventually anyway.

there needs to be a certain amount of personal customization IMO, like only able to spend so many points. or spending points on one ability locks out another, but opens up a new one. or something like that. the way EQ did it, they may have just as well raised the level cap, it was basically the same thing, it just extended the "grind".

Fanclorn · 03-31-2007, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Xavious

it seems like a good idea at first, and ill admit i enjoyed AA in EQ1. but it has a flaw in the way that EQ did it. there was no limit on AA points. so eventually you just maxxed out again. just as if they raised the level cap. all the characters ended up the same eventually anyway.

there needs to be a certain amount of personal customization IMO, like only able to spend so many points. or spending points on one ability locks out another, but opens up a new one. or something like that. the way EQ did it, they may have just as well raised the level cap, it was basically the same thing, it just extended the "grind".

Extending the grind isn't a bad thing necessarily. From a developer standpoint, extending the grind leads to longer subscriptions. Take a look at World of Warcraft. Once you hit max level now (70), there's little reason to do anything else, which is leading to a lot of raiders leaving the game. People like progressing their characters, and having different options to progress their characters.

Gear should never be the only means of improving your character, IMO.