[ramar]

Dear devs,
You have nerfed the exp and make the reach of adventure lvl50 trivial. I didn't like the current exp rate and i hate the lack of risk with these wussy death penalities (and you tryed to nerf it again on test server! WTF!). However, I can live with the easy exp. IMHO, the big question is:
When do you plan to add a raid system and raid content? Many ppl on my guild stop to exp. They could be yet lvl50, but who care? There is not so much content. Speaking for the adventure sphere, currently there is no reason for a guild to exist. Six people are enough to do everything. Where is the 20% raid content you promised? Why do you still continue to add 23501 solo quests "kill # kind of mob" - "retrive # paws from tiger"?
I want a challange game, you promised it to us. Please, give us an ETA (the word "soon" is not enough :P).

Thank you.

[Danth]

Raiding is boring drudgery. The game is better off without them and it'll be an unfortunate day when Sigil invitably adds more of that sort of content.

Danth

[norast]

Originally Posted by Danth

Raiding is boring drudgery. The game is better off without them and it'll be an unfortunate day when Sigil invitably adds more of that sort of content.

Danth

<flame on>

[Teletha]

Per the In the Works page raid content is listed as a "long term goal. I wouldn't hold your breath!

[Soluss]

Originally Posted by Danth

Raiding is boring drudgery. The game is better off without them and it'll be an unfortunate day when Sigil invitably adds more of that sort of content.

Danth

lol thats a blanket statement...because you dont like it they should not add it? Ok i hate soloing...Soloing is boring drudgery. The game is better off without it and it'll be an unfortunate day when Sigil invitably adds more of that sort of content.

[Danth]

I didn't say that they shouldn't add it, only that I think it'll be unfortunate when they do. If you feel the same way about soloing, I understand.

Since Sigil did say the game would offer 20% raid content, at least from level 35+, it can only be viewed as a bad thing that such content is unavailable for those who enjoy it--regardless of how any individual (myself included) feels about it. What's the point of my entry into this thread, then? It serves as a gentle reminder that not everybody likes raiding, and I would hope that Vanguard remains mostly a group-based game, even in terms of post-cap progression.

Danth

[Szczuldo]

Originally Posted by ramar

Dear devs,
You have nerfed the exp and make the reach of adventure lvl50 trivial. I didn't like the current exp rate and i hate the lack of risk with these wussy death penalities (and you tryed to nerf it again on test server! WTF!). However, I can live with the easy exp. IMHO, the big question is:
When do you plan to add a raid system and raid content? Many ppl on my guild stop to exp. They could be yet lvl50, but who care? There is not so much content. Speaking for the adventure sphere, currently there is no reason for a guild to exist. Six people are enough to do everything. Where is the 20% raid content you promised? Why do you still continue to add 23501 solo quests "kill # kind of mob" - "retrive # paws from tiger"?
I want a challange game, you promised it to us. Please, give us an ETA (the word "soon" is not enough :P).

Thank you.

Go craft, or travel to find the perfect house plot. There is more to do than get to 50 and wait..i have no clue why they nerfed the xp rates as posts like this are just going to keep growing and growing. Games don't come out with any real end game content. It'll be a few months for sure untill they are brought in

[Cobalty2004]

Originally Posted by ramar

Dear devs,
You have nerfed the exp and make the reach of adventure lvl50 trivial. I didn't like the current exp rate and i hate the lack of risk with these wussy death penalities (and you tryed to nerf it again on test server! WTF!). However, I can live with the easy exp. IMHO, the big question is:
When do you plan to add a raid system and raid content? Many ppl on my guild stop to exp. They could be yet lvl50, but who care? There is not so much content. Speaking for the adventure sphere, currently there is no reason for a guild to exist. Six people are enough to do everything. Where is the 20% raid content you promised? Why do you still continue to add 23501 solo quests "kill # kind of mob" - "retrive # paws from tiger"?
I want a challange game, you promised it to us. Please, give us an ETA (the word "soon" is not enough :P).

Thank you.

I second this, where is my raid content

Oh well I just hope they are taking thier time, I went and explored the Isle of Gazrumet just now and that place blew my mind. Never knew an MMO can have a dungeon/mini-city on that level of scale. Cant wait till it becomes more populated other than level 50 6dot trash mobs.

Later I'll see what Stiirhad is like.

[Loampounder]

Originally Posted by ramar

I didn't like the current exp rate and i hate the lack of risk with these wussy death penalities (and you tryed to nerf it again on test server! WTF!). However, I can live with the easy exp.

But a result of the easy exp is the triviality of content. How can you live with the easy exp when the result of this is getting to the raid content (that does not exist) too fast?

Originally Posted by ramar

Speaking for the adventure sphere, currently there is no reason for a guild to exist.

Not true and a ridiculous statement. There is more to the game than experience points.

[orneryman]

Originally Posted by ramar

Dear devs,
You have nerfed the exp and make the reach of adventure lvl50 trivial. I didn't like the current exp rate and i hate the lack of risk with these wussy death penalities (and you tryed to nerf it again on test server! WTF!). However, I can live with the easy exp. IMHO, the big question is:
When do you plan to add a raid system and raid content? Many ppl on my guild stop to exp. They could be yet lvl50, but who care? There is not so much content. Speaking for the adventure sphere, currently there is no reason for a guild to exist. Six people are enough to do everything. Where is the 20% raid content you promised? Why do you still continue to add 23501 solo quests "kill # kind of mob" - "retrive # paws from tiger"?
I want a challange game, you promised it to us. Please, give us an ETA (the word "soon" is not enough :P).

Thank you.

Before asking for raid content, I'd like you to run a simple test.

Get 23 other people onto the same screen as you. Ask them to go crazy with their particle effects and all that. Check if your FPS drops to 10 or lower.

If it doesn't, go ahead and ask for raid content.

[framinal]

Originally Posted by orneryman

Before asking for raid content, I'd like you to run a simple test.

Get 23 other people onto the same screen as you. Ask them to go crazy with their particle effects and all that. Check if your FPS drops to 10 or lower.

If it doesn't, go ahead and ask for raid content.

particle effects slider is at 0 for me

you lose

[orneryman]

Originally Posted by framinal

particle effects slider is at 0 for me

you lose

Try it without the particle effects then. I'm curious about the results.

[Safire]

So the raiders have an opportunity to gear up, perfect their classes and perfect working together before raid content comes into the game... enjoy it!

I am hoping it's a little ways off so I can get upwards of 50 by when raid stuff goes live - but shit, at 50 I won't be allready super decked out in the best drops from rhaz etc.

[Melios]

They have indicated that they are currently preparing raid content, for places like Hilsbury Manor, Island of Garuzamet, and I think Stiirhad.

[ramar]

Originally Posted by Szczuldo

Go craft, or travel to find the perfect house plot. There is more to do than get to 50 and wait..i have no clue why they nerfed the xp rates as posts like this are just going to keep growing and growing. Games don't come out with any real end game content. It'll be a few months for sure untill they are brought in

I thought i was speaking about adventure sphere...I KNOW there is the crafter sphere and i have the perfect plot with an house on it.

Originally Posted by Loampunder

Not true and a ridiculous statement. There is more to the game than experience points.

Who the hell was speaking about experience points?!?...Are you joking me? Really, i was speaking about quests/6dot mobs. Every single quest/mob can be achieved with a single group. What is the purpuose to have a 50member guild if you can do the tough quest/mob with a single group? Please, explain me...and do not reply with "start the craft and trade resources with your guild" or "find an housing chunk and start a guild city". Please...

Originally Posted by orneryman

Before asking for raid content, I'd like you to run a simple test.

Get 23 other people onto the same screen as you. Ask them to go crazy with their particle effects and all that. Check if your FPS drops to 10 or lower.

If it doesn't, go ahead and ask for raid content.

Good point. But I can live better knowing I can potentially make a raid then I have no chances to do any.

[Defmetal]

Or they could add some PVP on PVE servers ... like factions in UO ...

Who said ya had to have 50 people in a guild just to kill raid mobs? That started with 1 game and it hsould have ended with that one game.
There are other things 50 people can do :/

aside from the fact that nobody can currently raid due to PC hardware unless everyone is running an 8800GTX

[Kilmaro]

Originally Posted by framinal

particle effects slider is at 0 for me

you lose

I've been playing around with the particle effects density slider since it went live. I haven't noticed a sweet damn difference between having it cranked and having it at 0. Particles do become less dense...as to how big an impact it actually makes on performance...Personally, the number that comes to mind for me is the only number in this post.

Does that mean that I win?

[Yabumbus]

I can wait a while longer, but I am just hoping this wait is giving them time to actually make the raid content well-done. If you have ever been to the Caldera, it looks amazing, and looks like it will be ALOT of fun. I personally can't wait.

[tdewey10]

Originally Posted by Melios

They have indicated that they are currently preparing raid content, for places like Hilsbury Manor, Island of Garuzamet, and I think Stiirhad.

I thought Pankor Zhi was already in as a raid zone -- haven't really been following.

[sjb1]

Originally Posted by Kilmaro

I've been playing around with the particle effects density slider since it went live. I haven't noticed a sweet damn difference between having it cranked and having it at 0.

yeah ditto; it's really wierd. changing the slider changes the density sure, but doesn't seem to make performance any better.

though I have yet to test it with more than about 12 people on the screen going wild with particles; maybe it becomes noticable with lots of people screen?