[Zahrim]

Originally Posted by Celidya

Unicorn guide is currently in the works, should be done in a few hours.

1: Quest for 10-15 hours
2: Grind on mobs that are KS'd and camped
3: Pay 10g
4: Get a white horse with a cone on it's head
5: Go to bed disappointed

I'm glad I waited and didn't continue too deep into this questline, paying 10g for a sub-par looking mount with inferior stats is just gaytarded. How can a developer put this into play and be satisfied?

[rinweth]

Originally Posted by Etta

But why can't most people post this in a respectable fashion (like you did btw.)? instead it's the usual whining and moaning including the threat to quit ... I really don't understand it

Well EXCUSE me for not being in a happy mood when I get slapped by Sigil. I would normally post in a respectable manner, but this has gotten to be a common occurence that I feel it would be a wasted effort on my part. Pretty soon it's going to me bopping a dev on the head and grunting like a neanderthal at the thing I don't like. Is there an emoticon for that somewhere?

Whining or not, the point is still very much valid, and worth the time to look at.

[Zikkar]

Originally Posted by strykr619

After spending some serious hours on this quest ( shadowhound) , endless travel and endless killing , i come to see that i have to spend 10g on a mount that is inferior to both T3 mounts and the arena camel?

Sigil please use some common sense here.... at least make this a 70spd/45 mount stability mount....

LOL oh man you think Sigil can use anything that even comes close to common sense LOL.

[Vauhs]

At lvl 41, without playing the broker game and questing all my armor and still using my lvl10 mount and no house or boat I have 22gp to my name. I though the shadowhound would be perty sweet to have but i'm not giving up half my cash for it. I'll just half to save up for when they add the flying mounts.

[Malivan]

Flop!

[Kiste]

Eh, doing a frigging huge and time consuming quest line just to be allowed to buy a T3 horse with a horn on its head for the same 10g that a regular horse costs is just disappointing.

At the very least they should raise the stats by +5.

[Celidya]

Unicorn guide can be found here:

http://www.silkyvenom.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19353

I hope this helps, feel free to pm me or reply to the guide if you want to add anything. I have to admit i didn't read the 25 pages of this thread so all the guide is based on what i found out by myself, and as a lvl 44 all the mobs were grey so i could miss a few tips.

[strykr619]

Originally Posted by sumuji

Wow, defintatly some of crybabies. The unicorn costs as much as the rank 3 horse and is equal in speed. The big difference is that it's an EXOTIC mount that looks awesome. If you don't have 10g around level 30 then you're not trying to make money.

Crybabies eh? How about a camel that is not only faster, but easier to attain with no lvl req ? Oh yea wait we are crybabies thou.....

[Aamir Khann]

Originally Posted by strykr619

Crybabies eh? How about a camel that is not only faster, but easier to attain with no lvl req ? Oh yea wait we are crybabies thou.....

I would not call any of the concerned players crybabies, but I do have to wonder something. Many of the ones complaining are the very same ones that wanted things harder and slower.

Is the shadowhound quest tedious? Yes.
is it a grind fest? Yes.
Can a player solo the entire questline? Yes. ( but you need to be 35 or so )

A few things that JUMP right out about this line...

This quest is NOT about exp. It's about getting a cool mount.
This quest looks like it will give a nice set of armor to those doing it.
There IS cash loot and other nice things dropped.
You will now know where a ton of content is, that I will bet you didn't know before.

Most all these mobs have been grey to me so, I have not gotten any exp. At first this bugged me, but now, I just want to see if I can mostly solo this questline as a 32 ranger. I agree that the 10g is steep, and I will have to be very careful at that point since I don't have 10g yet. I will say that 10g doesn't bug me at all though.. so what if I drop to 2 silver, I can make more easy enough.

Something like this SHOULD be very difficult and not easy.

[Soluss]

Originally Posted by Aamir Khann

I would not call any of the concerned players crybabies, but I do have to wonder something. Many of the ones complaining are the very same ones that wanted things harder and slower.

Is the shadowhound quest tedious? Yes.
is it a grind fest? Yes.
Can a player solo the entire questline? Yes. ( but you need to be 35 or so )

A few things that JUMP right out about this line...

This quest is NOT about exp. It's about getting a cool mount.
This quest looks like it will give a nice set of armor to those doing it.
There IS cash loot and other nice things dropped.
You will now know where a ton of content is, that I will bet you didn't know before.

Most all these mobs have been grey to me so, I have not gotten any exp. At first this bugged me, but now, I just want to see if I can mostly solo this questline as a 32 ranger. I agree that the 10g is steep, and I will have to be very careful at that point since I don't have 10g yet. I will say that 10g doesn't bug me at all though.. so what if I drop to 2 silver, I can make more easy enough.

Something like this SHOULD be very difficult and not easy.

I like your thoughts. I disagree on one part though. I think it should be difficult and time consuming. It should take like a week for most players to do it. It should NOT however be another money sink.

I havent even done the quest as I wont play my main 35 monk any longer and my necro is only 18 atm. I have heard the horror stories of the quest. I will say that the time it will take to do and this so called "grind" will not bother me one bit. Paying 10 gold on the other hand will. Personally I think the biggest problem with that is noone was aware of that until the end of the quest. People that dont have that kind of money or would not spend that kind of money, Im sure would not bother doing these quests if they knew ahead of time. As it stands alot of people that cant even afford it wasted like 14 hours trying to get one.

The complaints about the grind though to me is just stupid. These mounts are suppose to be special and rare. All these complaintss I WANT MY MOUNT NOW is stupid. It should take you a week or atleast a few days...It should not take 1 day for everyone in telon to have these mounts. It wouldnt be so grindish to you if you were not trying to get it done in 1 day but you spread it out over the course of atleast a few days. Most of the people that complain about a grind are the GIMMIE IT NOW people. You need to realize that some things are not meant to be handed to you at minimal effort and 1 play sessions time.

[rhagz]

Originally Posted by Soluss

The complaints about the grind though to me is just stupid. These mounts are suppose to be special and rare. All these complaintss I WANT MY MOUNT NOW is stupid. It should take you a week or atleast a few days...It should not take 1 day for everyone in telon to have these mounts.

The 'grind' will not make them rare, it will just make them tedious to get. Challenge isn't going to prevent people from getting the mounts, boredom and aggravation will. The challenge should come from the game, not in finding the patience to play the game.

[Soluss]

Originally Posted by rhagz

The 'grind' will not make them rare, it will just make them tedious to get. Challenge isn't going to prevent people from getting the mounts, boredom and aggravation will. The challenge should come from the game, not in finding the patience to play the game.

So suggest an alternative that will take TIME AND EFFORT but not this so called "grind" I never once metioned "challenge" in my post

[rhagz]

Originally Posted by Soluss

So suggest an alternative that will take TIME AND EFFORT but not this so called "grind" I never once metioned "challenge" in my post

You mentioned it should be difficult, which is challenge. However my position is that time consuming and easy is not the same as difficult. It's tedious. Then again, every quest put in the game since launch has been nothing more than a tedious grind. Why I am suprised is the real shock. When Jerrith and Nino left, the only devs worth a flip left are all working on the other spheres. Adventuring is the red-headed stepchild of Vanguard.

[Speaker]

Originally Posted by rhagz

You mentioned it should be difficult, which is challenge. However my position is that time consuming and easy is not the same as difficult. It's tedious. Then again, every quest put in the game since launch has been nothing more than a tedious grind. Why I am suprised is the real shock. When Jerrith and Nino left, the only devs worth a flip left are all working on the other spheres. Adventuring is the red-headed stepchild of Vanguard.

Nino and jerrith creative? Your joking right? only if you like the easy button Wow type games.

Players grind, game don't grind. High end content should be reward for work and effort, not just oh, yea fun. To become good at any game, it really does ttake work and effort, if your not willing to invest the time to earn high end content, you really don't deserve it.

[Soluss]

Originally Posted by rhagz

You mentioned it should be difficult, which is challenge. However my position is that time consuming and easy is not the same as difficult. It's tedious. Then again, every quest put in the game since launch has been nothing more than a tedious grind. Why I am suprised is the real shock. When Jerrith and Nino left, the only devs worth a flip left are all working on the other spheres. Adventuring is the red-headed stepchild of Vanguard.

Why does an adventure even have to have constant quests to be an adventure? You cant go explore a dungeon without the "tedious" quests and then go explore another? You make it a "grindfest" by only playing by the quest system. There are plenty of dungeons out there. Of course killing things is just "tedious" right?

EQ1 was fun because they had a bunch of different dungeons and different camp spots in game. People didnt have to have a quest to go to them and have fun. You simply went to the dungeon with a group of friends and wrecked havoc on it. Then maby later or the next day went somewhere else and did the same thing. It was a blast. Nowadays noone even goes to dungeons unless there is some form of quest for them that makes them go there. Take out the quests in this game and you will lose that "grind" feel. Its the fact that you feel you HAVE to have a quest to do anything. The whole time your in the dungeon the only thing you are paying attention to is that item ding for a quest updat rather then the dungeon itself. Try just going to do something for fun sometime and don't worry about the stupid quests. Thats most of the problem.

[rhagz]

Originally Posted by Soluss

Why does an adventure even have to have constant quests to be an adventure? You cant go explore a dungeon without the "tedious" quests and then go explore another? You make it a "grindfest" by only playing by the quest system. There are plenty of dungeons out there. Of course killing things is just "tedious" right?

This is the new mount thread. The 'quest' to get the new mounts is nothing but a long tedious unchallenging grind. That's all there is to it. Make the mounts a semi-rare drop in the bottom of a dungeon that is somewhat difficult to get to and camp.. then you may have something.

[Nym_Almeara]

because that's a challenging non-grind???

[Soluss]

Originally Posted by rhagz

This is the new mount thread. The 'quest' to get the new mounts is nothing but a long tedious unchallenging grind. That's all there is to it. Make the mounts a semi-rare drop in the bottom of a dungeon that is somewhat difficult to get to and camp.. then you may have something.

True this is the new quest mount thread but with all the complaints on the entire board it was just as good a time as any to point out the flaws. I wouldnt mind they be a rare drop at the bottom of a dungeon. However if they did it that way people would just complain that they dont have a shot at it because its over camped. I suppose to do it that way the correct way to do it was just to tell us its in game but not where or how to get them. People would have to chance upon it by luck in order for anyone to know. Wow killer thought huh? You would actually have to explore and find it for yourself and go HOLY SHIT LOOK WHAT I JUST GOT! Rather then ok quest guy said I should go here and do this. Ok I did that now he says I should go here and do this.

See the difference between the 2? Theres no surprise..theres no awesome feel to it. You know what you need to do, you know what you will get by doing it. Theres no adventure in that.

I dont know if you played EQ1...but if you did, do you remember the days of just going to a dungeon when it first came out and killing a namer and getting an awesome drop for the very first time before people knew it existed? That was a good, awesome, fun feeling. Now that its all dictated by questing you lose all that and hence the grind becomes. Its all about the reward, theres no explore, no discovery...just do what the quests says. I bet it was fun for people to try and figure out where to get the quests. I bet it was fun and had an awesome feel to you (or atleast the people with no spoiler )when the quest was first found. It then became unfun when you were dictated to what needed to be done.

[Rasputina]

You know, one of the things that has kept me interested in VG is the prospect of flying mounts.

But if this is what it takes to get a crappy t3 (?) mount that doesnt show barding and with crappier stats than its tiered counterpart, I shudder to think what the flying mount quest will be like. What like, 100hours and 1000g?

[rhagz]

Originally Posted by Soluss

True this is the new quest mount thread but with all the complaints on the entire board it was just as good a time as any to point out the flaws. I wouldnt mind they be a rare drop at the bottom of a dungeon. However if they did it that way people would just complain that they dont have a shot at it because its over camped. I suppose to do it that way the correct way to do it was just to tell us its in game but not where or how to get them. People would have to chance upon it by luck in order for anyone to know. Wow killer thought huh? You would actually have to explore and find it for yourself and go HOLY SHIT LOOK WHAT I JUST GOT! Rather then ok quest guy said I should go here and do this. Ok I did that now he says I should go here and do this.

See the difference between the 2? Theres no surprise..theres no awesome feel to it. You know what you need to do, you know what you will get by doing it. Theres no adventure in that.

What you just described is exactly what I just said. Finding an uncommon drop from a named in the bottom of the dungeon is much more 'HOLY SHIT LOOK AT THAT' than the quest that is in now.

I don't know why you are agreeing with me to disagree.

The quest we have now is retarded. Plain and simple. It isn't challenging, it doesn't make the mounts rare or hard to get it. It's just a time and moneysink that anyone can do.