[Prator Earthborn]

My friends and I have spent the past few days working on the unicorn mount quest. I am 24, my friends are 24 and 22. We spent many days we could be leveling to do a very long series of quests that includes traveling to all three continents and undertaking hours of murdering random mobs. I cannot stress enough how lengthy this quest is.

But anytime you put in so much time you need to be rewarded, correct? WRONG! The barding costs 10 gold... which is far far far away from what any of us have combined (we all have about 1 gold each at level ~ 23). So we were able to undergo a myriad of level 24 quests to be cockblocked by a monetary requirement. I'm not even going to mention the fact that I just learned that you need to be level 30 to even use the mount.

Out of all the poor development choices Sigil has made in the past... this actually ranks at the top of my list as the poorest.

[Verena]

Originally Posted by Prator Earthborn

My friends and I have spent the past few days working on the unicorn mount quest. I am 24, my friends are 24 and 22. We spent many days we could be leveling to do a very long series of quests that includes traveling to all three continents and undertaking hours of murdering random mobs. I cannot stress enough how lengthy this quest is.

But anytime you put in so much time you need to be rewarded, correct? WRONG! The barding costs 10 gold... which is far far far away from what any of us have combined (we all have about 1 gold each at level ~ 23). So we were able to undergo a myriad of level 24 quests to be cockblocked by a monetary requirement. I'm not even going to mention the fact that I just learned that you need to be level 30 to even use the mount.

Out of all the poor development choices Sigil has made in the past... this actually ranks at the top of my list as the poorest.

I have finished and received my Unicorn, yet was never required to purchase barding for 10g, nor any barding. I did have to purchase a set of pliers for 10g to repair an item that is needed on the quests.

What is needed is for people to understand that not everything is easy and that it will take time to complete things and aquire things. Not everything will be available to you at an early level. The Unicorn is appropriate rank for the quests that you complete. I don't think it is meant to be a 1 day quest (like I did), but to be a quest line to do over time. You are perfect level for the beginning but need to just continue naturally as you level.

Good luck for the furture quests, and I'm sorry that you're upset about it all.

[Prator Earthborn]

I misspoke then, the point I was trying to make was that it costs 10 gold to complete this quest. Since I have 1 gold accumulated since I have began playing the game (I've obviously spent some to keep my character geared etc), I seriously doubt I'll gain 9 more gold during the course of completing this quest.

So me and my friend effectively wasted our time doing this entire chain of quests to get stuck at the 10 gold step. It's a complete waste of time. If this is supposed to be a level 35+ quest, then don't make it completable by level 22s. (I still think the 10 gold requirement is ludicrous in this case as the actual quest is so lengthy)

[Prator Earthborn]

Quest effectively supports gold selling/buying

[Verena]

This quest line is not completeable by low level 20s. You need to be low to mid 30s to complete it, unless you are the single low level 20something in a group of levels 30+. The quest line consists of about 30 individual quests, and yes the beginning ones do start at around level 20. Again do not expect things to come easily or so soon.

[Winenose]

Originally Posted by Prator Earthborn

Since I have 1 gold accumulated since I have began playing the game (I've obviously spent some to keep my character geared etc), I seriously doubt I'll gain 9 more gold during the course of completing this quest.

Why have you spent money on keeping your character geared? There's a lot of quest gear, for every class, for every level and completing armor quests rewards you both exp AND money. You say you have a few friends that you play with - that's the perfect setup to do all kinds of quests. Even the mount quest gives you fairly good equipment!

I understand why soloers or guildless people buy gear, but I really don't understand whining from people who have friends of similar level. Go out there and do quests!

[Spry]

Lazy people don't have 10G. I have well over 10g at lvl 20. FYI there are brokers in cities, learn to use them.

[Bima]

You can put this another way,

"Greedy people have money"

The above statement is false but so is your statement about lazy people too.

Not everyone sell the loot they make, many people give out loot freely in my guild... so point is there are many reasons why people may not have money.

[rinweth]

What the... just because we sell stuff on the broker means we are greedy? I would say that giving all of your stuff away for free, while being honest, fair, and generous, is stupid.

[Bima]

Originally Posted by rinweth

What the... just because we sell stuff on the broker means we are greedy? I would say that giving all of your stuff away for free, while being honest, fair, and generous, is stupid.

This is what i said

"Greedy people have money"

The above statement is false but so is your statement about lazy people too.

[rinweth]

Originally Posted by Bima

This is what i said

Oy, sorry.

[Aen]

just think of the poor people that have 10g and want to buy one but have to go through a bunch of quests to get it :P

anyways... Think that you are just questing to unlock the ablity to buy a mount that is lvl 30 and will be faster (after next patch) then your regular lvl 30 10g mount is.

Sounds like a good reward to me.

also hell hound is the way to go

[Lizard]

Originally Posted by Bima

You can put this another way,

"Greedy people have money"

The above statement is false but so is your statement about lazy people too.

Not everyone sell the loot they make, many people give out loot freely in my guild... so point is there are many reasons why people may not have money.

However, game balance is based on the activities of typical players, not people playing Mother Theresa with a sword (and there's an image!). Mount quests are money sinks, which means they assume you have the money to...er...sink. Getting a special "I give away my excess armor to the poor" version of the quest just for you isn't practical.

See if all the people you gave stuff to along the way want to show their gratitude by giving you, oh, 50 silver each. If they don't, well, you'll have learned something about charity.

[Damish]

I sell almost all of the gear I find, except for what I and others in my group need. I craft a bit as well. Only harvest on occasion as well. I have been told to harvest, play the market (buy low sell high). But I have about 3gp overall my chars. If there is something I am missing please enlighten me. heh....

[Bima]

Originally Posted by Lizard

However, game balance is based on the activities of typical players, not people playing Mother Theresa with a sword (and there's an image!). Mount quests are money sinks, which means they assume you have the money to...er...sink. Getting a special "I give away my excess armor to the poor" version of the quest just for you isn't practical.

See if all the people you gave stuff to along the way want to show their gratitude by giving you, oh, 50 silver each. If they don't, well, you'll have learned something about charity.

I agree with you 100%. I am fine with the fact that this quest need 10g.

Some people may play the role of Mother Theresa (god forbid!) in this game and they they may be broke due to that but they are NOT lazy.

Now if people play the role of Mother Theresa they should not come here and complain about the fatc the the quested mount cost 10g as well

[Bima]

Originally Posted by Aen

just think of the poor people that have 10g and want to buy one but have to go through a bunch of quests to get it :P

anyways... Think that you are just questing to unlock the ablity to buy a mount that is lvl 30 and will be faster (after next patch) then your regular lvl 30 10g mount is.

Sounds like a good reward to me.

also hell hound is the way to go

You say it will be faster. Is that guess or some dev word on that?

[Prator Earthborn]

My broker is constantly full at 10 items, items that are attainable at level ~ 24 are not worth nearly enough to accrue 10 gold.

Rings, Earring, Cloak, and Neck were bought. These cannot be quested for at my level. Both my weapons are bought because weapon quests until the late 20s give horrible rewards, and as a ranger my whole purpose is damage. My helmet, leggings, and bracers are bought but they're very good for my level. Everything else I have quested for. I like to keep my gear up so I can be more effective, especially since I as a ranger am the main tank in our group.

Mount quests are money sinks, which means they assume you have the money to...er...sink. Getting a special "I give away my excess armor to the poor" version of the quest just for you isn't practical.

Nowhere during the quest was I ever told "oh yeah by the way you're going to need to spend 10 gold to complete this quest after spending countless hours doing stupid, boring tasks"

[Suntsu]

I am in the 10G is bullcrap category.

I am not lazy.

I am not stupid.

I know how to make money in this game. I know how to work the broker. I know how to craft for money.

I have 2 toons, one a level 37 Shaman and the other a level 35 Bard. Both on the same account. I have done tons of quest lines on both Thestra and Qualia and killed in most every zone as I leveled these two.

At level 35 My bard has about 3gold. At 37 My Shaman had 7 Gold.

Now I could stop using the broker for upgrades and I could save all my money to get a Unicorn but I wont.

I think the fact that you need a rare drop and then a fantastically long and widespread quest line is sufficient. There is no need for a 10G requirement.

In EQ I played the Broker starting at level 15 and had 3million by level 30. It RUINED the game for me. I never wanted for anything. I just bought whatever whenever.

In EQ2 I had 20 Platish and was totally mastered and uber geared by the time I hit 50. Same thing. I had so much money that the game lost some appeal.

In VG I intentionally am an adventurer. I WANT to quest for things and work for things I want. I don't want so much money that quests are pointless.

So you guys with your condescending attitudes that not having money to spend 10G on a quest are way out of line IMO. I was upset when the INF gear had a cost of 1.5 G per piece and I am even more upset that the Unicorn costs 10G.

I don't want to grind for loot. I want to explore and experience. the Unicorn quest was just that right up till they said gimme 10G. Screw that.

There are better ways of removing money from an economy than to penalize pure adventurers when they complete quests.

This quest should be rare and difficult. But it SHOULD NOT COST MONEY!!!

[Lizard]

Originally Posted by Prator Earthborn

Nowhere during the quest was I ever told "oh yeah by the way you're going to need to spend 10 gold to complete this quest after spending countless hours doing stupid, boring tasks"

And Gandalf never told Frodo "Hey, you might lose a finger. I'm just sayin'."

So what's your point?

[Garn]

So I take it the point of this post is your running out of stuff to complain about.

Go to your local broker and search for "Silver Platter", that will solve all your problems.

On a side note I got my shadowhounds for myself and my wife yesterday. We are so damn rich I didn't even notice it cost 10g.. did it?