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Old 07-30-2007, 08:41 AM   #1
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Does somebody know if a developer is looking into the mess for combat messages?


The current way, combat log is presented, makes it more difficult than necessary to get some useful data out of it. Line duplication, line interruption by CR, missing information, unresolved tokens, unnecessary flavour, wrong calculation, missing log events and miss categorisation are creating enough trouble to make probably 80% of the dps comparisons between classes floating around completely invalid.

Just few examples of the current issues: (I replaced the name of people with SOMEONE because I did not asked the people if I could publish their data)


[19:57:51] hits Brotherhood Priest for <highlight>139</color> damage.
missing damage source


[20:17:54] Brotherhood Bishop's <highlight>Replenishing Blow</color> hits for <highlight>274</color> damage.
missing damage target


[18:48:37] SOMEONE <highlight>Knee Break IV</color> hits Graystone Legionnaire for <highlight>1073741612 (536870700+536870912)</color> damage.
wrong damage calculation


[21:06:04] SOMEONE 's <highlight>Smiting Blow IV</color> hits Hoary Spider for <highlight>404</color> damage.
[21:06:04] SOMEONE 's <highlight>Smiting Blow IV</color> hits Hoary Spider for <highlight>404</color> damage.
line duplication


[21:06:50] Kronekel Deckhand is bleeding and takes 326 points of damage.
dot damage is without the damage source


[23:50:04] Your Disperse collides with Gulgrethor Augur's Curse of Precision
and it is dispersed!
line break in the log line


[18:20:05] Your Disperse collides with Seeker of Xenn's [Needs Display Name] and it is dispersed!
unresolved tags

[22:44:43] Crocogan's <highlight>Bite
Bite</color> hits you for <highlight>243</color> damage.
Other case for line break in log line


[22:47:30] <PURPLE>You reflect Kronekel Buccaneer's spell.
[22:47:30] You successfully reflected Kronekel Buccaneer's Aphotic Touch!
[22:47:30] <BLUE>You pronounce words of doom upon Kronekel Buccaneer, inflicting 38604 points of damage.
[22:47:31] Your <highlight>Aphotic Touch</color> hits Kronekel Buccaneer for <highlight>38604</color> damage.
[22:47:31] Your <highlight>Aphotic Touch</color> hits Kronekel Buccaneer for <highlight>38604</color> damage.

[22:46:06] <PURPLE>You reflect Kronekel Buccaneer's spell.
[22:46:06] You successfully reflected Kronekel Buccaneer's Aphotic Touch!
[22:46:06] <BLUE>You pronounce words of doom upon Kronekel Buccaneer, inflicting 48895 points of damage.
[22:46:07] SOMEONE slashes Kronekel Buccaneer for <highlight>704</color> damage.
[22:46:07] Kronekel Buccaneer has been slain by SOMEONE!
[22:46:07] SOMEONE 's <highlight>Aphotic Touch</color> hits Kronekel Buccaneer for <highlight>48895</color> damage.
[22:46:07] SOMEONE 's <highlight>Aphotic Touch</color> hits Kronekel Buccaneer for <highlight>48895</color> damage.
spell reflect messages is a total mess, sometimes it does not get into the log sometimes damage is assigned to wrong people and lines are repeated


[18:32:48] SOMEONE 's <highlight>Blessed Wind III</color> hits Guardian of the Fourth for <highlight>296</color> damage.
[18:32:48] SOMEONE has landed a critical hit for an additional 41 points to Guardian of the Fourth!
[18:32:48] SOMEONE has landed a critical hit for an additional 58 points to OTHERPLAYER!
[18:32:48] SOMEONE has landed a critical hit for an additional 58 points to themself!
normal Blessed Wind III does not show other targets but the crit shows damage to the group, is this a group heal crit message?


That’s just few examples of what’s going wrong. When SOE posted for gu#2 they will make combat messages better readable I thought it would be a good idea to fix them first. Wrong or misleading messages will be of no help.
 
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:49 PM   #2
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I keep having the line repetition problem. Usually occurs on the first damage listed in a strike (since I dual wield). Kept having it happen all yesterday evening.
 
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Old 07-30-2007, 06:01 PM   #3
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Nice detailed post sesami. Lets just hope the devs have this on the TODO list.

I used to only have my combat chat box display only my spells / abilities, but ever since I have it set to show everything, I see that when I reflect a spell and the log doesn't give me credit, it can sometimes say the Mt, or the mob iself reflected the ability for xxx damage.
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Old 07-31-2007, 08:11 AM   #4
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I have only events regarding me in the chat box therefore I know what you are talking about not seeing some counter. I have another box where I log the details to a file and I run through that log by a script. I think there is no way to get the necessary information out of the chat box by looking at it when you turn all the spam options on. I’ve no idea how you do it.
 
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Old 07-31-2007, 08:29 AM   #5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UnchainedAcolyte View Post
I keep having the line repetition problem. Usually occurs on the first damage listed in a strike (since I dual wield). Kept having it happen all yesterday evening.
The line duplication, I’m aware of, are around abilities. Some abilities always create duplicate lines some don’t. If you get line duplication for a given ability sometimes and sometimes not then it is something I overlooked so far. I’ve not seen duplication based on dual wielding so far.

Currently, I go by time through the log file and I will ignore lines which are exactly the same at the given time.

If someone from SOE likes to follow up on log issues we could use this place to collect issues. If it’s not a priority for them, it’s wasted time I guess. I don’t bug this type of issues because I don’t believe in a fire and forget bug reporting processes. I think the topic is to complex and to big to go without feedback from both sides.
 
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