[Hatto]

Originally Posted by Vanguard2112

There was mass group buff KEI and cleric buffs back in the day too. There is no difference there.

I don't remember to run around level 65 raid buffed with 2.5k hitpoints as a level 1 though.

It is not that I do not understand what you are talking about, but I find it sort of rose colored. Especially the part about cheating. Not that buff-bug in particular, but soloing in particular centered around abusing pathing and leashing more often than not. It is not just ShowEQ.

But of course I liked Al'Kabor, and only stopped to get sucked into EQ again. All those imbalances and imperfections make it an almost perfect world. Modern game designers seem to have lost that insight.

[Loampounder]

Ten characters for sale with some bids. For example, Duren a lvl 50 ranger on Sartok with one bid for $125. Others: Paco, lvl 50 shaman on Seradon for $150 and Alexxxis, lvl 40 bard on Seradon for $30.

No bids on plat on any server.

Six items for sale.

[Romans DeMalum]

Crap is selling for sure. I sold my other character - It got jumbled up in the EQI chat. Her name is Sicula and she lives on Seredon.

[Brawyn]

Originally Posted by Loampounder

Well, there was one seller who listed over 140 items of crafted jewelry in an attempt to make some business on LG. When I was still subscribing to VG, I sent him an in-game email to ask how it was going. He said that sales were low but LG was still working out the bugs and he hoped business picked up once they got it rolling. He (Brawyn) no longer has any items listed on LG.

Hi there I'm Brawyn and I actually had 150 items for sale. NONE of them sold. They are all in storage on LG's site. Kind of interesting that I've figured out how to get free unlimited storage.

Some interesting tidbits:
1) This "service" is no longer in beta
2) For item listings level requirements and stack sizes are not displayed
3) There is no ETA on a fix for #2
4) The only things selling are plat (at a price MUCH higher than gold spammers) and characters.

[Talithia]

So can you pull the items off LG or are they stuck there until they sell?

Would be nice to see your experience posted on the OVF in response to Gammiks post. He writes...

"Hate to burst your bubble Locnar, but you seem to be speaking as if you actually sell on Live Gamer ? But you don't & so therefore you don't really know anything , cept for what you read (& most of your info you are getting seems to be very very VERY wrong), ...... believe what you want to.

But I sell on Live Gamer & you could not be any further from the true





Edit to include the following, I just read all 15 pages of the Live Gamer talk on the silky forums , & here's why everyone says nothing is getting bids on them , cause duh , not much is actually getting bid on. 95% of my sales come from buy out bids , which NO one sees but the seller & the buyer, NO ONE else will ever know.



& there is also a $1.99 charge to cancel any auction after it's listed for a few minutes , meaning that not many , if any will ever cancel an aution. most will let the auctions run til the end, so anytime anyone thinks that someone has cancelled their auction , you have a 99.9% chance that the buyout price was clicked upon ...."

http://forums.station.sony.com/vg/po...topic_id=45552

[Romans DeMalum]

Once the item expires it stays in the livegamer queue forever, it seems - Thus endless storage.

I don't know who this Gammiks is, or what he is talking about since I didn't see what he is replying too. I've sold 2 characters on livegamer; and, if he has read all the discussions here, at this website - Let him post/attack Locnarr on silkyvenom, where honest thoughts aren't moved into Rajjin's trash bin.

[Talithia]

Originally Posted by Romans DeMalum

Once the item expires it stays in the livegamer queue forever, it seems - Thus endless storage.

I don't know who this Gammiks is, or what he is talking about since I didn't see what he is replying too. I've sold 2 characters on livegamer; and, if he has read all the discussions here, at this website - Let him post/attack Locnarr on silkyvenom, where honest thoughts aren't moved into Rajjin's trash bin.

Well that sucks, so either it sells or you are simply trashing items via LG. Sad.

[Brawyn]

Originally Posted by Talithia

Well that sucks, so either it sells or you are simply trashing items via LG. Sad.

Not at all, here's what happens:
Let's say I post a few items for sale (150 or so). They don't sell (now I can set the auction to last from 1 day to 10 days). Once the auction expires they move into my holding area on LG (all 150 or so of them). From my holding area I can either re list the items individually or send them back into the game to my character individually.
Remember though that if you have more than 5 items in your holding area you can't load anymore in from the game. Solution: when you want to store more stuff re-list everything for 1 day and add listings for one day for all the new stuff to go into storage. After the new sales expire everything will once again be in storage.

Oh and he is quite right stuff is selling ... in game currency sales are good and character sales are good.

[Hatto]

Originally Posted by Brawyn

Oh and he is quite right stuff is selling ... in game currency sales are good and character sales are good.

I'm actually mildly interested if it will stay like that. Characters and Currency is a no-brainer. But if it stays like that it will not change much, as that is what people been buying from various other sources anyway. A lively market for items on LG on the other hand might actually impact what you can buy in game. But I recon unless the LiveGamer is part of the normal auction house it will never be a market.

[Loampounder]

Originally Posted by Brawyn

Oh and he is quite right stuff is selling ... in game currency sales are good and character sales are good.

What is "good"? Gammik has said that hundreds of plat have sold, which is obviously not true. There have been some sales, but it's not reliable.

[Talithia]

From previous post

Originally Posted by Brawyn

Hi there I'm Brawyn and I actually had 150 items for sale. NONE of them sold. They are all in storage on LG's site. Kind of interesting that I've figured out how to get free unlimited storage.

Some interesting tidbits:
1) This "service" is no longer in beta
2) For item listings level requirements and stack sizes are not displayed
3) There is no ETA on a fix for #2
4) The only things selling are plat (at a price MUCH higher than gold spammers) and characters.

Then you say....

Oh and he is quite right stuff is selling ... in game currency sales are good and character sales are good.

Soooo, what exactly isn't selling? Crafted items? Because you are contradicting yourself here.

[Brawyn]

Originally Posted by Talithia

From previous post

Soooo, what exactly isn't selling? Crafted items? Because you are contradicting yourself here.

hrrrmmm guess I should try to be clearer ...

Crafted Items are not selling
Items with level requirements are not selling
Items that come in stacks (housing materials, potions, etc.) are not selling

Characters are selling (though slowly)
in game currency is selling (though at an inflated price)

Basically, high level characters and plat are selling ... most everything else is not (I say most because I haven't tried absolutely everything yet)

[Loampounder]

Originally Posted by Brawyn

Characters are selling (though slowly)
in game currency is selling (though at an inflated price)

Basically, high level characters and plat are selling ... most everything else is not (I say most because I haven't tried absolutely everything yet)

No bids for plat in Livegamer right now on any server. The going rate is about $7-8 per plat. Sartok has one down to $5.

One items listed with no bids.

15 characters for sale with just one bid in (Duren, lvl 50 ranger on Sartok at $125). There are five lvl 50's, two of which are cheaper than Duren but they are not on Sartok. Three of those five have been there for about two weeks, meaning they have been relisted.

Sartok : Duren, Maicoh
Seradon: Grus, Kalaso, Laynea, Rainbowe, Masadala, Andalusia, Anabolical, Appealing, Appalling,
Xeth: Zooner, Kaahn, Jetson, Spores

[Loampounder]

Update time:

No bids on plats on any servers. Prices are still at $7 on Xeth and about $8 on Seradon. $5 on Sartok and it's been there for a few days. Strangely, I have just realized I never saw any coin for sale on Halgar.

Three items for sale, and all on Halgar, where Europeans cannot purchase things. No bids on any items.

15 characters for sale and no bids on any. Four are lvl 50 with two of those at $80.


Sartok: Maicoh
Seradon: Kalaso, Grus, Anabolical, Appealing, Appalling, Masadala, Andalusia, Rainbowe, Laynea
Xeth: Kaahn, Jetson, Spores, Zooner, Fireybals

[ikaoma420]

I see quite a few people commenting on the OVF that LG has made little impact on the game...

I wonder how many of those people know how completely borked LG is? I also wonder if how borked LG is is having anything to do with how long POTA is taking to get released? I could definitely see Smed pushing for LG to get fixed even if it means putting the POTA release on the back burner for a little bit longer. I mean they have to know POTA will bring back some people I'm pretty sure Smed wants a working LG before that happens.

Things that make you go hmmmm?

[Loampounder]

Someone by the name of kuumar just PMed me to say that he sold his character on LiveGamer for $550. We talked about his lvl 50 selling back on page 11, and it was one of the first characters to be sold. It had a flying mount. Since then (about two weeks ago) prices are much lower but I'm not sure if any have a flying mount.

[Talithia]

Yeah he sent me the same PM, I knew him in game, nice guy.

He is the only one I saw with a flying mount I have seen on LG.

[Talithia]

Originally Posted by ikaoma420

I see quite a few people commenting on the OVF that LG has made little impact on the game...

I wonder how many of those people know how completely borked LG is? I also wonder if how borked LG is is having anything to do with how long POTA is taking to get released? I could definitely see Smed pushing for LG to get fixed even if it means putting the POTA release on the back burner for a little bit longer. I mean they have to know POTA will bring back some people I'm pretty sure Smed wants a working LG before that happens.

Things that make you go hmmmm?

Well what they are neglecting to understand is that LG had an huge impact (long time loyal player base exodus), and further effects will only be seen in time.

From what I am seeing there are a lot of relatively new poster on OVF and their insights being short as they are, can only speak to the game as it is now. Fine as it is relatively speaking, it still is not the game it was or could have been.

[Loampounder]

Update time...

Two items for sale, no bids...

Some plat for sale on Xeth. The single plat sales ($6.75) are new so I think some may have sold all ready. The 3-plat auctions are not selling, as I have said before, people look to be purchasing a single plat at a time, if they do buy any. No plat sales on Saradon and one on Sartok.

16 characters for sale, with some obvious repeat auctions. For example, I know the Appalling-Appealing auctions had all ready expired and now they are back at 5 days to go. No bids on any characters, even the inexpensive lvl 50's.

Seradon: Kalaso, Anabolical, Appealing, Appalling, Masadala, Rainbowe, Ayomide, Ramchest, Karasyn
Sartok: Maicoh, Carano
Xeth: Kaahn, Jetson, Spores, Fireybals, Mywe

[Jave]

Originally Posted by Talithia

Well what they are neglecting to understand is that LG had an huge impact (long time loyal player base exodus), and further effects will only be seen in time.

From what I am seeing there are a lot of relatively new poster on OVF and their insights being short as they are, can only speak to the game as it is now. Fine as it is relatively speaking, it still is not the game it was or could have been.

And if players left because of LG, and LG's impact has been nearly non-existent, then those players might feel a little foolish with the whole, "sky is falling" reaction when it's much to do about nothing. Just my opinion.

It's been my opinion all along that RMT will have little to no impact in the game and so far at least, I have seen little to no impact. All I HAVE seen is certain players throwing a fit about how RMT will destroy the game and 45 page threads saying much the same but when I log in.......I have seen ZERO difference. And yes, I have been playing since beta 2 so I am certainly NOT a new player.
The game will always take directions that not all players will be happy with, but to say RMT will destroy the game is premature and thus far, nonexistent.