How many of you would consider playing Vanguard on a PvP server?

Oloh · 04-06-2005, 06:19 PM

I am just curious about how PvP friendly our readers are. How many of you would consider playing Vanguard on a PvP server?

Kheldon · 04-06-2005, 06:48 PM

Depends on the rulesets. If it's just PvP on with no objectives...then I won't. Those servers tend to mostly be just a whole lot of random 1on1 fights and those are boring as heck.

I want big bad guild wars with strategy and tactics and stuff.

Still voted yes though.

Fozzik · 04-06-2005, 07:19 PM

I want to play Vanguard. With any kind of open PvP, it's not really an mmorpg anymore in my opinion. I can play street fighter any time I want. I play MMO's for the depth, the relationships, and the complexity.

I probably should just avoid talking about my thoughts on PvP here the same way I do at the OVF.

Raya · 04-06-2005, 08:33 PM

I voted maybe. As a rule, I am not fond of PvP, especially the kind that wipes multitudes of newbies out who are just trying to get started.

However, I LOVED Realm v. Realm in DAoC - was fighting in it at level 7 (with a lot of protection from my guild leader at the time

). In WoW now I do enjoy taking the Horde down if they attack first (have a level 46 Dark Elf Hunter), but otherwise am content to live in peaceful co-existence with them.

Basically, though, I am not that much of a fan of PvP. If I want to get into fights with my neighbors I can do that in RL

Genda · 04-06-2005, 09:50 PM

I voted Maybe....

The only reason I wouldn't is because Branyanu doesn't like PVP and we usually play together.

Staunch · 04-07-2005, 12:51 AM

Maybe....

I agree with Kheldon on depending on the ruleset as well as Raya on Realm vs Realm in DAoC. There is just too fine a line between playing a role and griefing now adays in full-pvp that just irks me sometimes. I probably spend 80 percent of my time flagged now in WoW but still having the ability to just turn off the flag and do some PvE at anytime I want is somewhat comforting.

Raam Kx'Thorath · 04-07-2005, 02:19 AM

PvP is just a delicate matter... and to answer your question, one would almost have to know what PvP in Vanguard will be as well as how the game mechanic will function.

Personally I'm swinging a bit to both sides. On one hand it will always be nice to be able to log on and play without having to worry about getting killed.

On the other hand, the challenge there is for you to actually having to watch your back constantly also adds a new thrill to the game for those who actually enjoy it.

I put my vote on 'Maybe' simply because thats as good as my answer is atm.

Feyshtey · 04-07-2005, 08:53 AM

I'm with others on this. I voted maybe, and the choice would be reliant on the ruleset. But it would also be reliant on what Vanguard is. We don't know what the gameplay is like right now, or if there are systems within the game that really push into uncharted territory. Ok, I don't know at any rate...

In general, I'm not a fan of PvP. I find it a distraction from the game itself. But if the game lends itself really well to PvP, because of politics, land ownership, etc, then I might be convinced. PvP just for the sake of PvP isn't a good enough reason for me.

Foxeye · 04-07-2005, 11:47 AM

What Feyshtey said.

Kheldon · 04-07-2005, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Staunch

Maybe....

I agree with Kheldon on depending on the ruleset as well as Raya on Realm vs Realm in DAoC. There is just too fine a line between playing a role and griefing now adays in full-pvp that just irks me sometimes. I probably spend 80 percent of my time flagged now in WoW but still having the ability to just turn off the flag and do some PvE at anytime I want is somewhat comforting.

I'm playing PVE on WoW atm and probably will in the future. The honour and battlegrounds systems will be implemented on the PVE servers as well so I won't miss out when the purposeful PvP enters WoW.

Troz · 04-08-2005, 08:35 PM

There needs to be some form of PvP in every mmorpg. EQ1 had dueling and arenas and that should be the bare minimum. Look at EQ2 now, no PvP and training at all and it becomes a weak game. It settles disputes in an orderly way, as well as adding an extra fun element for gm events and guild events.

I'm not a big fan of ganking people, but a system like Lineage 2's would be awesome. There's very limited ganking with tactical pvp battles.

The whole problem with pvp is balance issues. If you create pvp without taking into account the pve, you end up with unbalanced EQ1 servers. If you create a game with PvP in mind, a la WoW, you hear whining about both pve and pvp balancing, and usually one will ruin the other. If you let it go, you end up like L2 where certain classes excel at PvP and others don't.

Raam Kx'Thorath · 04-11-2005, 04:14 AM

Agreed. Yet MEO devs have announced that there won't be PvP in any form in their game.

Nepenthia · 04-11-2005, 10:40 PM

No pvp for me

Laugh I felt guilty killing someone in a duel for heaven's sake!

Nep

Jasarina · 04-23-2005, 07:52 AM

I voted no. The real reason is Iam not a PvP fan. While I have tried it a few times I have found for the most part that it is an uncontrolled mess. I have yet to try PvP in a game that kept the playing field even and fair without continual griefing.

Jasarina

Heloisa · 05-03-2005, 04:01 PM

Voted yes

I never experienced PvP before WoW and after a friends urging I started a character on a PvP server.

I can never go back to a PvE server as the PvP aspect adds such an amazing layer to the gaming experience. It is such a rush!

Voldare · 05-18-2005, 04:16 PM

I wouldn't play on a full blown PvP server, i'm not good at it and don't aspire to be good at it.
Having said that, if there is a limited PvP server i would consider it. In my experience PvP does bring a sort of excitement with it even for people who aren't interested in PvP.

Always having to watch my back incase i will get attacked by another player doesnt appeal to me but i wouldn't mind it occasionally.

Niborea · 05-20-2005, 06:29 PM

I've voted , NO

I've not really tried pvp in any mmorpg, but I can honestly say I don't think I'd be very good at it, I'm one who tends to go out of my way to help others not hender them

Niborea

Homeslice513 · 05-22-2005, 01:57 AM

Greetings

I put a maybe down because I am about PvP if it is done pretty cool. I would have to see the rulesets on the servers to know for sure but I would possibly be in it for some RvR styling

macros · 05-31-2005, 07:21 PM

I would definitely consider it. Especially if some of the rules discussed on the thread below are present. Mostly with relation to rouges and thievery.

http://vanguardsoh.com/forums/showth...threadid=14400

macros

otteriffic · 06-01-2005, 10:29 AM

If it was PVP in the context of DAoC then ABSOLUTELY... that was by far the best PvP system ever created for a MMOG

If it is PVP in the context of WoW then NO WAY... ALl WoW PvP has turned into is a gank fest to gain more and more "honor"

DAoC has literally ruined me for any other type of PvP... the only problem was that the classes were overtweaked to near uselessness and the game content was fairly lacking...

The exact opposite was true for WoW the game was great but the PvP and ganking completely blew it for me... and you may say "then just play on a non-pvp server" the only problem with that is the group of friends I had been guilded with through multiple games decided to try out the PvP server and by the time we actually started the PvP most people were 40 plus and very unwilling to start over ona new server

So if Sigil is reading this then (look at DAoC for a decent PvP model and work off that... thanks guys!!!!)