[CurseUppl]

So anyone got any information on this hot class? I've read the wiki but it does not say how good the class matches with NPCs and in PVP. Any tidbits? I've heard it's challenging and that you got to 'think' before attacking, unlike rogues who seem capable of taking on several NPCs in one go.

Been planning on being a Dark Elf Necromancer

[Atlas]

I don't want to encourage anyone to play a necro because in polls it seems to be one of the top class choices. Eventually, that will make it harder for necros to find groups and guilds because everyone will already have one. However, I have been fooling around with a necro and it's definitely a fun class if you like pets. Pets inevitably require more combat micromanagement, but they are a powerful ally. I would not say necros are terribly difficult to play though. They die easily, as do all spellcasters, but having an abomination probably makes them more survivable than, say, a sorcerer.

[CurseUppl]

Hmm I was hoping that the necromancer class wouldn't be hard played, since there are so many other great classes

Would be nice if Sigil would release a pie chart showing how many classes there are in the beta, as I generally try to pick the least used class.

[Atlas]

Yeah I would be interested in seeing some numbers as well. I want to play a necromancer because I like the class, but I have been in the situation of playing an overplayed class in other games and it can be quite an annoyance. If I remember correctly, the last class poll I looked at had ranger as the most popular class, but necro was second.

One of them was http://www.snappoll.com/view_results.php?poll_id=135896

[CurseUppl]

Ah yes, seen that. If it's true, then I'll likely be an inquisitor or a disciple, even though inquisitor might not be released until after the release

Still, sucks so much! I want to be a necromancer so badly lol, but not if too many play that class. Oh well

[fremen]

Originally Posted by CurseUppl

Hmm I was hoping that the necromancer class wouldn't be hard played, since there are so many other great classes

Would be nice if Sigil would release a pie chart showing how many classes there are in the beta, as I generally try to pick the least used class.

the beta and the on-line version r going to be very different mainly cos in the beta everyone is trying out all the classes and races so its not an accurate statistic

[Kilrith]

Reposted from the beta boards (posted by Scarcius):

Necromancer forms:
"30-
Form of Bones: +15% physical spell damage, +15% hp, +100 ac, enduring breath

3Wraithform: +15% spiritual spell damage, 8% damage rune, levitation, enduring breath


40-
Lich Form: +20% physical spell damage, +20% hp, +125 ac, enduring breath

Form of the Specter: +20% spiritual damage, 8% damage rune, levitation, enduring breath"

[Atlas]

The newest poll is showing necros dropping on the list. I hope this poll represents class percentages after release to a certain extent. As we get closer and closer to release we may be able to suppose that these polls will get more and more accurate.

http://snappoll.com/poll/161095.php

[Vordox]

The Necro class is probably the worst if you play this class you're outta your tree! I'm a lvl 34 necro and the higher in lvl I get the worse it becomes at this point in time. I have no idea what kinda code they got going for offensive casters but its the only one I have ever seen that gets weaker the higher lvl you get?!! Plus my pet at 34 hits mobs even with its lvl (high teens low 20s a melee) the same as it hits a mob 20 lvls below it! The pet cannot even keep aggro at that rate,and the mob regen is is almost faster then the initial damage making fights last from 3 to 5 min at a minimal xp gain now.I would suggest if you wanna have any fun at all in Vanguard play a melee or tank or healer being my 3rd choice. Necro is totally frustrating and a huge waste of time and energy. I have played since beta 3 and I've seen this class go from overpowered to just plain useless and with release just days away I see this class being released in it's current piss poor condition. This is the reason why the falling Necro numbers.

[Keegan]

I dont really care why the numbers are falling, the important thing is that they are.

[Vordox]

Originally Posted by Keegan

I dont really care why the numbers are falling, the important thing is that they are.

Care to elaborate further? Or do you just like posting vague responses?

[Widowmaker]

Sure its nice to see no one class played so heavily that you can not walk 10 feet without bumping into one, but the last thing anyone needs for game balance is a class to be so badly gimped that they are worthless in the later stages and end game.

[matray]

Originally Posted by Vordox

The Necro class is probably the worst if you play this class you're outta your tree! I'm a lvl 34 necro and the higher in lvl I get the worse it becomes at this point in time. I have no idea what kinda code they got going for offensive casters but its the only one I have ever seen that gets weaker the higher lvl you get?!! Plus my pet at 34 hits mobs even with its lvl (high teens low 20s a melee) the same as it hits a mob 20 lvls below it! The pet cannot even keep aggro at that rate,and the mob regen is is almost faster then the initial damage making fights last from 3 to 5 min at a minimal xp gain now.I would suggest if you wanna have any fun at all in Vanguard play a melee or tank or healer being my 3rd choice. Necro is totally frustrating and a huge waste of time and energy. I have played since beta 3 and I've seen this class go from overpowered to just plain useless and with release just days away I see this class being released in it's current piss poor condition. This is the reason why the falling Necro numbers.

Have you talked to other Offensive Casters and compared yourself to them? A little disheartening to hear that necromancers get useless the higher level they get.

[andolyne]

Originally Posted by Vordox

The Necro class is probably the worst if you play this class you're outta your tree! I'm a lvl 34 necro and the higher in lvl I get the worse it becomes at this point in time.

I remember reading somewhere that the spells at about that level were not correct, but they're right again at 40+, could it be that?

Originally Posted by Vordox

The pet cannot even keep aggro at that rate,and the mob regen is is almost faster then the initial damage making fights last from 3 to 5 min at a minimal xp gain now.

Unfortunately that is pretty common for pet classes, the higher level you get the weaker the pet is by comparison and eventually they can hold agro anymore. Lock's in WoW are the same.

andolyne

[Vordox]

Matray
Oh yes I am in the know with the other offensive casters as well and they tell me they notice the same degradation as they increase past say mid 20s.

Andolyne
No I am in constant contact with lvl 40 Necro lead in Vanguard and indeed it is no better for him but all he can do is keep bugging the Devs and hoping like the rest of us.

I have hope for the class eventually but upon release in what.... About 10 days it's just not gonna happen that fast sorry to say.

Melees are the way to go if you don't want the hassle they seem pretty set with a minimal amount of problems as of this writing.

I would love to tell you of puppie dogs and butterflies and those other comforting things but I think you deserve at least a heads up.

[Keegan]

Originally Posted by Vordox

Care to elaborate further? Or do you just like posting vague responses?

I dont know how I can elaborate further, refer to my first post.

[Treyon]

**pokes Vordox with a stick** hey i know you

EQOA ring a bell. nice to see some familiar names

Think druid if you need to remember. And yes I am going to roll another druid, maybe a necro also.

[Vordox]

Ah yes I do know you! How the hell yah doing? Go to gameraiders.com Twilights Darkness and meet the other EQOAers! yes very nice to see old faces!

Keegan Only see one post on this thread besides your last response so yeah I'm confused! But I am old that may be it?lol

[CurseUppl]

Well, play Necro if you like a challenge then

[matray]

Originally Posted by Vordox

Matray
Oh yes I am in the know with the other offensive casters as well and they tell me they notice the same degradation as they increase past say mid 20s.

Andolyne
No I am in constant contact with lvl 40 Necro lead in Vanguard and indeed it is no better for him but all he can do is keep bugging the Devs and hoping like the rest of us.

I have hope for the class eventually but upon release in what.... About 10 days it's just not gonna happen that fast sorry to say.

Melees are the way to go if you don't want the hassle they seem pretty set with a minimal amount of problems as of this writing.

I would love to tell you of puppie dogs and butterflies and those other comforting things but I think you deserve at least a heads up.

Hmm, kinda perplexed now that you mention that all offensive casters degrade after their 20's.

What about grouping? Are arcane casters suppose to fit into other roles? I know the psionicist already is the king of crowd control. Does necro fit into another role later on?