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Old 03-05-2008, 07:49 AM   #221
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But history changes as it is written by the 'winners'. I'm sure that George Washington would not be a historical hero but, instead, a traitor and very bad man had the British won the Revolutionary War. How do you define what is 'right' other than by what we remember of events?
I agree it is difficult to separate.
Maybe a true representation would be one that held both pro and con versions of events, such as the revolutionary war of independence and its players.

In history I want to know how both parties felt regardless of the outcome. I think we do in your example because there are records from both sides available.

True objectivity may never exist within the hearts and soul of man, but we can come closer to it by keeping records. Even records we may not agree with so long as they describe details with accuracy; even though the sentiment is not our own.

In short it helps to understand why, and not just what.

Who, What, When, Where, Why
 
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Old 03-05-2008, 10:06 AM   #222
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Who, What, When, Where, Why
How.
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Old 03-05-2008, 11:47 AM   #223
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How.
doesn't usually belong...
The problem is we get more copycats because of HOW.

I posted on the same blog that 'How' in many cases was not neccesary in reporting a story and could in some cases give people "ideas". But that story competition made the minutia of detail an extra selling point.
As we all know... news is a commodity, so this is strictly an item to fill in when HOW is necessary, but should be of more interest to those that investigate rather than the general public.

My opinion of course...
 
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Old 03-07-2008, 11:29 PM   #224
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A pretty good synopsis of a recent global warming conference in New York City.

http://www.icecap.us/
 
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Old 03-08-2008, 05:22 AM   #225
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A pretty good synopsis of a recent global warming conference in New York City.

http://www.icecap.us/
I'll read... no time now
 
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Old 03-08-2008, 05:04 PM   #226
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A pretty good synopsis of a recent global warming conference in New York City.

http://www.icecap.us/
yeah this is good stuff.

I'm glad to see some intelligent discussion is taking place and not affirming hysteria. In fact some recognition that hysteria itself through funding has become an impediment to research and publishing because of an established yet flawed line of thinking.

I have not read it all but I did get this much out of it.
 
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good read...
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...9-7583,00.html
 
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Old 03-24-2008, 09:48 PM   #228
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More of the same cherry picking that has been making the rounds on the blogsphere and been thoroughly debunked. 1998 was the strongest el nino on record, and strong el nino’s transfer heat from the oceans to the air which raises the temperature for that year.

Due to the very strong el nino 1998 tied for the warmest year on record, but 1997 and 1999 without the el nino were much cooler. Instead of doing a proper trend line “skeptics” simply cherry pick 1998 and say “look” temperatures haven’t gone up! If you choose 1997 or 1999 as your starting point however, you get a completely different result.

The correct way is to plot a correct trend line instead of using individual years as your starting points. This gets around the fact that individual years can be as much as 0.5 deg C higher or lower then the trend which makes it impossible to see what the trend really is over the period as short as 10 years. Here is the trend line from 1979 – 2007
More of the same cherry picking that has been making the rounds on the blogsphere and been thoroughly debunked. 1998 was the strongest el nino on record, and strong el nino’s transfer heat from the oceans to the air which raises the temperature for that year.

Due to the very strong el nino 1998 tied for the warmest year on record, but 1997 and 1999 without the el nino were much cooler. Instead of doing a proper trend line “skeptics” simply cherry pick 1998 and say “look” temperatures haven’t gone up! If you choose 1997 or 1999 as your starting point however, you get a completely different result.

The correct way is to plot a correct trend line instead of using individual years as your starting points. This gets around the fact that individual years can be as much as 0.5 deg C higher or lower then the trend which makes it impossible to see what the trend really is over the period as short as 10 years. Here is the trend line for monthly temperature anomaly from 1979 – 2007

 
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