[Labyrrinth]

Tagad, Senior Game Designer at Sigil, posted up this quick guide to who hates who in Vanguard: Saga of Heroes, otherwise known as Your Quick Guide to KOS Status.

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Most (but not all) small outposts are not KOS to races, but start with pretty low faction values.

A note on becoming non KOS - Its not overly hard, so do not despair if you are KOS in a particular location. It will require some work, but nothing that cannot be overcome.

Major Areas:

Martok
Kills on Sight: Half Elf
Kills on Sight: Kojani Human
Kills on Sight: Raki
Kills on Sight: Wood Elf
Kills on Sight: Gnome
Kills on Sight: Mordebi Human
Kills on Sight: Qaliathari Human
Kills on Sight: Dwarf
Kills on Sight: Halfling
Kills on Sight: High Elf
Kills on Sight: Thestran Human


Tanvu
Kills on Sight: Orc
Kills on Sight: Goblin
Kills on Sight: Dark Elf


Caial Brael
Kills on Sight: Orc
Kills on Sight: Goblin
Kills on Sight: Dark Elf


Hathor Zhi
Kills on Sight: Half Elf
Kills on Sight: Kojani Human
Kills on Sight: Raki
Kills on Sight: Wood Elf
Kills on Sight: Gnome
Kills on Sight: Mordebi Human
Kills on Sight: Qaliathari
Kills on Sight: Dwarf
Kills on Sight: Halfling
Kills on Sight: High Elf
Kills on Sight: Thestran Human


Mekalia
Kills on Sight: Goblin
Kills on Sight: Orc
Kills on Sight: Dark Elf
Kills on Sight: Kurashasa
Kills on Sight: Dwarf
Kills on Sight: Lesser Giant


Qur'xa
Kills on Sight: Raki
Kills on Sight: Gnome
Kills on Sight: Mordebi Human
Kills on Sight: Qaliathari Human
Kills on Sight: Vulmane


Khal (Except for Foreign Quarter)
Kills on Sight: Goblin
Kills on Sight: Orc
Kills on Sight: Dark Elf
Kills on Sight: Kurashasa


Lomshir
Kills on Sight: Gnome


Bordinar's Cleft
Kills on Sight: Goblin
Kills on Sight: Orc
Kills on Sight: Dark Elf
Kills on Sight: Gnome
Kills on Sight: Varanthari
Kills on Sight: Lesser Giant
Kills on Sight: Varanjar
Kills on Sight: Vulmane


Rindol Field
Kills on Sight: Orc
Kills on Sight: Goblin
Kills on Sight: Dark Elf


Leth Nurae
Kills on Sight: Goblin
Kills on Sight: Orc
Kills on Sight: Dark Elf
Kills on Sight: Vulmane


Halgarad
Kills on Sight: Gnome
Kills on Sight: Dwarf


Tursh
Kills on Sight: Goblin
Kills on Sight: Orc
Kills on Sight: Dark Elf


Dahknarg
Kills on Sight: Half Elf
Kills on Sight: Wood Elf
Kills on Sight: Gnome
Kills on Sight: High Elf


Ahgram
Kills on Sight: Goblin
Kills on Sight: Orc
Kills on Sight: Dark Elf
Kills on Sight: Kurashasa


New Targonor
Tursh
Kills on Sight: Goblin
Kills on Sight: Orc
Kills on Sight: Dark Elf



1) Will there be a display telling us where we stand with each faction??
There wont be a display for normal factions at launch. You should be able to see your value when you slay something opposing that faction however.

2) Any chance on a list of things we'll be able to kill to work up faction?? *though I'm guessing self-discovery ftw here *
Generally things in the area that hate the faction. Example: Khal can be gained via killing Ksaravi, Harami Bandits, etc.

3) Rough estimate of how much faction we'll need to not be KOS anymore?? I thought I read 500 somewhere, but not 100%.
About 500 is accurate for most races. Dark Elves Vs High Elf is higher for example. Most races however, do start off in the hole with other races. So the additional benefits we will be adding to these factions over the months will be harder to reach for certain races.

[Teek]

Kill on Sight by Race

Just to help those who want to know what races are the most "hated" when they are going to create a character. Might help guilds and such set up a little easier. Oh, and hi everyone

Orc-10
Tanvu
Caial Brael
Mekalia
Khal (Except for Foreign Quarter) (Khal can be gained via killing Ksaravi, Harami Bandits, etc.)
Bordinar's Cleft
Rindol Field
Leth Nurae
Tursh
Ahgram
New Targonor

Goblin-10
Tanvu
Caial Brael
Mekalia
Khal (Except for Foreign Quarter) (Khal can be gained via killing Ksaravi, Harami Bandits, etc.)
Bordinar's Cleft
Rindol Field
Leth Nurae
Tursh
Ahgram
New Targonor

Dark Elf-10
Tanvu
Caial Brael
Mekalia
Khal (Except for Foreign Quarter) (Khal can be gained via killing Ksaravi, Harami Bandits, etc.)
Bordinar's Cleft
Rindol Field
Leth Nurae
Tursh
Ahgram
New Targonor

Gnome-7
Martok
Hathor Zhi
Qur'xa
Lomshir
Bordinar's Cleft
Halgarad
Dahknarg

Dwarf-4
Martok
Hathor Zhi
Mekalia
Halgarad

Wood elf-3
Martok
Hathor Zhi
Dahknarg

Vulmane-3
Qur'xa
Bordinar's Cleft
Leth Nurae

Half Elf-3
Martok
Hathor Zhi
Dahknarg

Mordebi Human-3
Martok
Hathor Zhi
Qur'xa

High Elf-3
Martok
Hathor Zhi
Dahknarg

Kurashasa-3
Mekalia
Khal (Except for Foreign Quarter) (Khal can be gained via killing Ksaravi, Harami Bandits, etc.)
Ahgram

Raki-3
Martok
Hathor Zhi
Qur'xa

Qaliathari Human-3
Martok
Hathor Zhi
Qur'xa

Halfling-2
Martok
Hathor Zhi

Kojani Human-2
Martok
Hathor Zhi

Thestran Human-2
Martok
Hathor Zhi

Lesser Giant-2
Mekalia
Bordinar's Cleft

[Labyrrinth]

Nice! Thank you Teek

Oh and welcome to SV

[Contact]

Am I right in assuming that NEITHER barbarian race will be KoS in any starting city?

[Fortenbras]

Originally Posted by Contact

Am I right in assuming that NEITHER barbarian race will be KoS in any starting city?

Yeah it looks like Barbarians are widely liked....except by dwarves...go figure.

[Breezer]

Originally Posted by Fortenbras

Yeah it looks like Barbarians are widely liked....except by dwarves...go figure.

Faction noob question-

Does this mean if you're Vulmane for instance, a dwarf would be able to attack you anywhere, anytime? Just within Bordinar's Cleft city limits, or anywhere where you're techinically zoned in Bordinars Cleft (according to map and chat zones)?

Sucks big time for Vulmane/Varanjar/Lesser Giant being hated by Dwarves since Themwar's Shield is so close to BC and so integral to progression early on.

[Leto Eu`Acumen]

Originally Posted by Breezer

Faction noob question-

Does this mean if you're Vulmane for instance, a dwarf would be able to attack you anywhere, anytime? Just within Bordinar's Cleft city limits, or anywhere where you're techinically zoned in Bordinars Cleft (according to map and chat zones)?

Sucks big time for Vulmane/Varanjar/Lesser Giant being hated by Dwarves since Themwar's Shield is so close to BC and so integral to progression early on.

These factions are NPC factions. That means if you are a Dark Elf and you take a trip to Tursh the NPC's in Tursh will attack you......But it also means you can go as a DE and group with a Thestran Human just fine.

It isn't a PVP system that allows players to attack you based on faction.

Although that could be fun

[Xeirus]

So can any race become non KOS for any city ?

[Leto Eu`Acumen]

Originally Posted by Xeirus

So can any race become non KOS for any city ?

If they put the work in for it, yea

Every local area is gonna have mobs around it that give +Faction to the cities faction.

[Eclipse]

Any new evidence on how long it would take someone to go from KoS to non-KoS?

I am an Orc...and EVERY one of my Kojan guildies live in Tanvu, except one who lives in Cai'al Brael. So, I've undertaken the path to become at least accepted by Tanvu officials, and questgivers.

As an Orc, I looked at the # 500 previously stated and assumed that would be correct. I am at 350 faction with Tanvu right now, so I still hope that 500 is true. I wish we could get a blue name to comment on that. I don't need them to tell me what I should kill, and I don't need them to tell me who will kill me...but knowing how much faction you need to prepare for really IS important.

Thanks,

formerly Eclipse
~Cevantez Kaervek, Orc Dreadnought of The Seraphim on Florendyl