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0 File Planet Rip Off - out of Beta Keys !?!?! O F F I C I A L    V A N G U A R D    F O R U M S
Jan 14, 2007 - 12:40 AM - by Elrar
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Originally Posted by RedRider View Post
The way you write it some poor Joe is in a corner manually creating the keys. Come on, we know its a program that is generating them, I doubt your validation algorithm is so complicated that it takes days to bring out a batch. Better excuse would of been that you are staggering the entries to beta to keep control (you can steal this response for next time.).

No hard feeling,
Red Rider
No you're right, but there is a someone that has to verify, and make sure all the keys are accounted for, and then someone who has to make sure they're allocated to the proper places and tracked, on top of keeping in communication with SOE, distributors, Fileplanet, Eurogamer etc. theres a lot more behind the scenes work than some may think.

So to make a batch of 20k keys it's not simply a matter of running the script. Hope that clarifies
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0 Gamestop sells out to gold farmers O F F I C I A L    V A N G U A R D    F O R U M S
Jan 13, 2007 - 09:40 PM - by Elrar
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Originally Posted by Aesirx View Post
LOL... it's not the same thing at all.

You are paying for a SERVICE (time) not GOODS (physical item).

It's no different then If I paid my friend $10 to sit there and play my character for 5 hours. It's just in this case my friend is some asian kid that knows what he's doing.

Firstly,

While legally you may be able to say you're selling your time, we still reserve the right to terminate your account.

On the stance of power leveling: you and you alone are allowed to play your account. If your account is found to be being played by someone else your account may be banned.

Please continue to the discussion of the Secondary Market and RMT here: http://forums.vanguardsoh.com/showthread.php?t=100309 I have already answered many questions.

Regardless of personal opinion Buying and Selling of Gold or Items and Accounts is prohibited in Vanguard Saga of Heroes and your account is subject to suspension and/or termination.

Thanks all
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0 File Planet Rip Off - out of Beta Keys !?!?! O F F I C I A L    V A N G U A R D    F O R U M S
Jan 13, 2007 - 09:40 PM - by Elrar
Hey guys,

They can very well run out of keys, we have to supply them with them and while they are "just lines of text" they take time, especially to create tens of thousands.

We resupply them when we can, but it may be a few days. Thanks for your patience all
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0 How will you deal with RMT? (real money trade) O F F I C I A L    V A N G U A R D    F O R U M S
Jan 13, 2007 - 09:40 PM - by Elrar
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Originally Posted by RKBauer View Post
Okay.. So even if he gives me a huge amount of gold, as long as I don't buy it from him, it's legal. That's what I've been told in most games.

Thanks.
True, however, if your friend is involved in large monetary exchanges without in game payment (appropriate item, etc.) and is involved in activity that is driven to purely amass wealth, then you could be banned for buying gold as it is fully within our right.

So technically, no it is not against our policy, however, if you are linked through just cause to your friend who is found to be a gold seller then your account could be terminated.
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0 High-End PC for less than $1200 O F F I C I A L    V A N G U A R D    F O R U M S
Jan 13, 2007 - 09:40 PM - by Elrar
Sorry for the disturbance folks
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0 Vanguard Forums Closing: Discussion Thread O F F I C I A L    V A N G U A R D    F O R U M S
Jan 13, 2007 - 07:40 PM - by Elrar
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Originally Posted by Sparkling View Post
OK So my reply is somewhere after page 11, I didn't read the prior messages, I just wanted to say what's been on my mind... (EDIT: now that it's posted I see it's on page 23... yeah very unlikely anyone at Sigil will actually read it. Oh well... so be it.) maybe no one at Sigil will ever actually read this. But I'm going to post this anyway. The announcement of closure of these forums has been bothering me. I think it is a huge mistake. This morning I realised why exactly, this will hurt the community more than it will help it.

God bless you all.
-Sparkling
Hi Sparkling,

Just to let you know I have read every single post in this thread , and I understand where you're coming from, and your feelings about it.

However, since the beginning it has always been the plan to close these forums down, for the reasons I've mentioned above, we have always felt very strongly about the community, and while it may seem we're tearing it apart you must realize that the community will change, and go their own ways regardless if we keep these forums or not.

The only thing these forums would achieve is to house all the different groups of people in one place, where many of them will cause friction between one another. These groups will form in game, they will form on class sites, or server forums.

We are giving the community back to the community, we are fully empowering our games community to go in the direction they wish, not in the direction we want it to, under our house rules.

While the affiliates have guidelines they are mostly performance, being, how much do they provide to the global community. The program is also to help players find "safe" sites that wont spread misinformation or dwell on rumors, to give streamlined access to the developers (Sigil) and allow for an easier flow of communication between us and the community.

I know it looks like we're kicking you out on the street, or that we don't want our community, but that couldn't be farther from the truth. Community members have already established new sites, community members who helped to found this community, and we look forward to welcoming those members who usher in the post launch community and establish sites of their own.

The program will grow and change, but Sigil will always be there to talk about current issues, or what our favorite cartoons were when we were kids, or how badly the bears will lose this Weekend

Just as the pilgrims established their own homes and stayed in cities they too spread out to make america, and while New York, San Diego, and Chicago might all be different cities, they're still America and make up one country. It's our responsibility to interact and communicate with the community, but the community is what it makes of itself, and regardless if we have central forums, or forums on 30 different sites that fact remains the same. In game we're all one community, but with different homes that we can call our own, and feel proud to do so.
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0 A suggestion for the last night the forums are open... O F F I C I A L    V A N G U A R D    F O R U M S
Jan 13, 2007 - 02:40 AM - by Elrar
oy, we should just charge a subscription for these forums

dern hooligans

/shakes shillelagh
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0 Attention: Please Read if having issues consuming Pre-Order Key O F F I C I A L    V A N G U A R D    F O R U M S
Jan 13, 2007 - 02:40 AM - by Elrar
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Originally Posted by Belthize View Post
Hate to be a pedant but I really want to get this straight .

I pre-ordered the game from Gamespot online. I was already in beta 3-5 and didn't need a beta key.

I received a beta key via email from Gamespot the day before beta 5.

I called them today and they said I'd receive a *pre-order* key next week via email once SOE sent them to Gamespot.

They further said the first key was for beta access (which I didn't need) and the second *pre-order* key is for the early access.

So to be 100% sure: Elrar you're saying the first key is both the beta5 *and* early entry and Gamespot is full of horse**** and there's only one key?

It doesn't suprise me in the slightest they were wrong... I just want to make sure I'm not suprised on the 27th that they were right .


Thorsen Belthize
I will check with the proper people right now if there was something changed, however, I believe Gamestop is mistaken.

I'll post here once I've received an answer. Thanks all
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0 A suggestion for the last night the forums are open... O F F I C I A L    V A N G U A R D    F O R U M S
Jan 13, 2007 - 02:40 AM - by Elrar
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Originally Posted by Ominous View Post
How about, when Sigil begins work on their next MMO, they carry over our post counts from these forums to the new MMO's forums.
lol, but seriously no.
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0 How will you deal with RMT? (real money trade) O F F I C I A L    V A N G U A R D    F O R U M S
Jan 13, 2007 - 02:40 AM - by Elrar
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Originally Posted by Dampyre View Post
However I for one see no real reason a game company would want to stop it .. I mean they are at least getting their 30 pieces of silver so why should they bother...
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While you're right players wont collectively agree, there can be a general social agreement that it is bad, and its the "wrong" thing to do. Just as we as civilized people generally agree that stealing is "wrong". We do have police though, to enforce this when some people don't abide by the general acceptance that some things are universally "wrong" or "right". We have GM's in game for those who refuse to abide by our policy, buying gold or items in game is illegal in our world and there are consequences.

And why would a game company care, or want to stop it? Besides the fact that we play these games, and enjoy playing them as much as the next man, it can be simplified in terms of money.

These are subscription based games, a majority of revenue is made from subscriptions, its what makes this market so profitable and it's why theres tons of people trying to get a piece of the pie. If we make it so that a player either has to quit playing or buy money, and therefore pay us to play on our servers and pay someone else for the cash, well most people are just going to stop playing altogether.

When enough players quit there isn't anyone left for the Secondary Market to sell to, so they leave. We lose money, or have to go as far as shutting the game down.

The longer Vanguard runs, the more money we can make, so why would we want to voluntarily allow our players to be forced to buy money or quit? We want people to play as long as they want.

The faster we allow our economy to inflate, the shorter our half-life.

These are games, and real money should have no baring on that status and well being of a character once you are inside the game. It is for entertainment and when you allow people to become better than someone in game because they have more money, then you have not only failed your game, you have failed your players and the community that they have created.
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