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0 Analyzing The Wheel Of Time O F F I C I A L    V A N G U A R D    F O R U M S
Jul 15, 2004 - 06:17 PM - by Jansan
I like my good guys good, and my bad guys bad. Of course that conflicts with the fact that I like The Dark Tower. One of the oddest, most unsavory and motley crew of "heroes" ever.

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0 Analyzing The Wheel Of Time O F F I C I A L    V A N G U A R D    F O R U M S
Jul 14, 2004 - 09:05 PM - by Jansan
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Originally Posted by hallower
I like stories with only a temporary ending. In other words, I don't like victory and defeat to be cut-and-dry in a story. I prefer that fans are left arguing over what was accomplished and what's going to happen next.
I on the other hand, prefer a cut-and-dry ending. I like to know who's going where or doing what, who's alive or dead, etc. Unless it is in the middle of a series, then it is permissible to end on an ambigious note. Otherwise, it annoys me terribly.

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0 Analyzing The Wheel Of Time O F F I C I A L    V A N G U A R D    F O R U M S
Jul 14, 2004 - 07:23 PM - by Jansan
Maybe I should check out this Martin then. Is the series finished?

Though if he kills off good guys as often as you say, I'll imagine I'll be upset/angry most of the books. "WHY DID HE KILL HIM/HER?!" Hehe.

Though when a bad guy dies, I just smile and nod.

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0 Analyzing The Wheel Of Time O F F I C I A L    V A N G U A R D    F O R U M S
Jul 14, 2004 - 06:47 PM - by Jansan
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Originally Posted by LewsTherinKinslayer13
He HAS killed some of the bad guys. Just need more good guys to go down the drain.
Aw, it's sad when the good guys die.

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0 Analyzing The Wheel Of Time O F F I C I A L    V A N G U A R D    F O R U M S
Jul 14, 2004 - 12:16 AM - by Jansan
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Originally Posted by LewsTherinKinslayer13
It should be called the NeverEnding story! Or is there already a book called that?
The one with the giant flying snake/dog thing with the beard?

Jordan should start killing off some of those badguys.

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0 Analyzing The Wheel Of Time O F F I C I A L    V A N G U A R D    F O R U M S
Jul 14, 2004 - 12:09 AM - by Jansan
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Originally Posted by Original Mexican Bob
Undoubtedly you've never seen True Grit

No sir, I have not. It is a movie I am guessing? Hm, I could look it up on IMDB...
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Originally Posted by Original Mexican Bob
Don't make fun of rednecks. The south will rise again one day
Sorry Original Mexican Bob.

Wait a sec, I thought Mother Russia was going to rise again, not the south...?

Tee-hee.

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0 Analyzing The Wheel Of Time O F F I C I A L    V A N G U A R D    F O R U M S
Jul 13, 2004 - 10:11 PM - by Jansan
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I just read the books for fun. Don't over analyze them - just enjoy.
On a completely different note Original Mexican Bob, where is Fake Mexican Bob?
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As for Rand’s women issues, I think this stems from his upbringing in a sort of backwards redneck "Howdy y'all" environment. I know people like him in real life from the Deep South that would be a lot more upset than Rand if a woman died under their command.
Yeah, his friends are pretty red around the neck as well, Perrin most of all.

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0 Analyzing The Wheel Of Time O F F I C I A L    V A N G U A R D    F O R U M S
Jul 13, 2004 - 09:13 PM - by Jansan
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I sat down and read the first 8-9 back to back. They were good, but with the last two-three you can see he's really started drawing it out much more than is neccesary. I think Perrin's plot in the last book was... Perrin buys grain.
Hahaha, oh, it is true.
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I don't think the problem is that the characters are one dimensional. It's that they're all very similar. Everyone is stubborn as hell. It gets annoying after a while.
Also very true. Especially all the main characters.

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0 Analyzing The Wheel Of Time O F F I C I A L    V A N G U A R D    F O R U M S
Jul 13, 2004 - 08:27 PM - by Artois
Honestly, I think the women characters in WOT are one dimensional. I think he has some issues with portraying strong women. I have noticed this from the first book onward.
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0 Analyzing The Wheel Of Time O F F I C I A L    V A N G U A R D    F O R U M S
Jul 13, 2004 - 08:16 PM - by Jansan
Hm I should mention this thread will contain spoilers, so if you plan on reading, I wouldn't read anything further. It might ruin somethings for you. My next part contains a few.




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Originally Posted by Winslock

His situation would be great in theory. Three beautiful women willing to share you.

Haha, I was actually referring to his inablity to accept his female soldiers as soldiers, and that measure of stupidity involved getting some of his friends killed, including Moraine. If she even is dead, she bowed out in an ambigious way, though she was clutching one of the Forsaken.

The three women thing never interested me, but to each their own, eh?

As a general response to the sexism -
Now obvious it shows that sexism is ingrained in culture, that's pretty much common knowledge.
What makes me think its a satire is when one of the characters will complain about the opposite sex, and then do the exact same thing the opposite-sex character did and try to justify it. Like I think Egwene was complaining about Matt looking at women, then she's ogling Galad, stuff like that.
What makes me think it might be sexist, is that while women were at first said to be stronger in the power than males, it turns out they are weaker. Nynaeve mentions that "women are weaker in muscle and in the power? How fair is that?" or something akin to that. Also, the fact that the powers of saidin and saidar are split between the sexes, and the way the different powers are controlled and embraced. Women have to surrender to saidar, men have to overpower saidin.

-- Jansan
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